Prospect Info: The Second Overall Pick Thread: Part V (Kakko/Hughes Talk)

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Minimum number of points needed for Kakko/Hughes (#2) to have a "successful" rookie season


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Recent picture. Looks how tiny his legs still are, the fact he was so incredibly strong against NHL competition already is absolutely amazing. Can you imagine when he gets some muscle on those things? This kid is nowhere near fully developed yet despite what people say. He's going to be a bull in a few years in the NHL.
 
Brady Tkachuk had 45 points last year. I like Brady a lot but I think Kakko's going to be a better player.
If Kakko gets consistent second line minutes and PP time, I think he’ll get around 50, maybe more
If he’s up and down the lineup all year I think he’ll get in the 40s
And if he’s in a bottom 6 role all year, I think he’ll get in the 30s
 
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If Kakko gets consistent second line minutes and PP time, I think he’ll get around 50, maybe more
If he’s up and down the lineup all year I think he’ll get in the 40s
And if he’s in a bottom 6 role all year, I think he’ll get in the 30s

we only have 1 real center...playing on the 2nd line vs bottom 6 isn't much different
 
I voted 50-59 in this poll, cause I'm so enthused about his NHL-readiness, but the real answer is 40-49 or even a non poll option of 30-39.

Connor McDavid had 48 points his rookie year. Even if Kakko dipped into only the high-30s, like Svetchnikov this year, I don't know that it would be cause for real alarm. I would be disappointed because I've been told he's "instant impact" but I wouldn't necessarily be downgrading his long term prognosis as a 80-90 point player.
I don't think him scoring 40-49 would be an "unsuccessful" year, but him scoring 50+ would be an inarguable successful rookie year
 
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Brady Tkachuk had 45 points last year. I like Brady a lot but I think Kakko's going to be a better player.

The thing with Kakko (and Kravtsov) is this: How will Quinn use him? Is he going to be sheltered on the 3rd line behind on the left behind Kreider and (god help me) Vesey? Is he going to be on the top line on the right? Maybe he puts him behind Buchnevich on the depth chart. So many questions. And seeing how Quinn handled the situation with Chytil and Lias last year, we just don't know for sure Kakko will get some leeway. It still amazes me that Vesey got such a long leash from both coaches he played for.
 
The thing with Kakko (and Kravtsov) is this: How will Quinn use him? Is he going to be sheltered on the 3rd line behind on the left behind Kreider and (god help me) Vesey? Is he going to be on the top line on the right? Maybe he puts him behind Buchnevich on the depth chart. So many questions. And seeing how Quinn handled the situation with Chytil and Lias last year, we just don't know for sure Kakko will get some leeway. It still amazes me that Vesey got such a long leash from both coaches he played for.

It's a good question but Kakko was front line and center on a world championship winning team playing against a lot of NHL players and the Rangers aren't very deep at forward. Kakko's competition on the Rangers is basically against iffy 2nd liners and bottom 6 forwards. Seriously Buchnevich is a good NHL player but I'm not sure Kakko is already a better player than Pavel even before he plays his first game. He looks to be ahead of Chytil and Lias too. And there is the question of whether Kreider moves on to another team and when that happens if he does. It's not clear he hasn't played his last game with the Rangers.
 
It's a good question but Kakko was front line and center on a world championship winning team playing against a lot of NHL players and the Rangers aren't very deep at forward. Kakko's competition on the Rangers is basically against iffy 2nd liners and bottom 6 forwards. Seriously Buchnevich is a good NHL player but I'm not sure Kakko is already a better player than Pavel even before he plays his first game. He looks to be ahead of Chytil and Lias too. And there is the question of whether Kreider moves on to another team and when that happens if he does. It's not clear he hasn't played his last game with the Rangers.

If it was about who the better player is, Vesey wouldn't have been in the top-6 at any point last season
 
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He looks to be ahead of Chytil and Lias too.

Looks to be?! Only thing one of the two are better at, is maaaaybe Chytil is faster than Kakko. That's it.

Kakko atm is already better than Lias and Filip, ainec.

I'm aware that Lias and Filip are still so young, but it looks like we are overrating them atm. They have a looong way to go.
 
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Recent picture. Looks how tiny his legs still are, the fact he was so incredibly strong against NHL competition already is absolutely amazing. Can you imagine when he gets some muscle on those things? This kid is nowhere near fully developed yet despite what people say. He's going to be a bull in a few years in the NHL.

That is one thing i also wonder where people are getting their "he is physically developed" from lmao. The guy is nowhere near physically mature. He will be a tornado once he gets buffed up.
 
That is one thing i also wonder where people are getting their "he is physically developed" from lmao. The guy is nowhere near physically mature. He will be a tornado once he gets buffed up.

Exactly. Just because he's physically more developed than Jack Hughes at this point, doesn't mean he's done developing. He's 3 months older than Hughes. It just means he will be bigger when both are fully grown.
 
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Exactly. Just because he's physically more developed than Jack Hughes at this point, doesn't mean he's done developing. He's 3 months older than Hughes. It just means he will be bigger when both are fully grown.

I think the idea that he's fully developed spawned based on the way he plays the game... you just kind of make the assumption he's a beast under the uniform based on his otherworldly board game and uncanny ability to shrug players off of himself

Honestly though it's hard to tell how strong a player really is based on some random picture that was posted
 
I think the idea that he's fully developed spawned based on the way he plays the game... you just kind of make the assumption he's a beast under the uniform based on his otherworldly board game and uncanny ability to shrug players off of himself

Honestly though it's hard to tell how strong a player really is based on some random picture that was posted

He is just an impressive specimen at the age of 18. When TPS did their "combine" so to speak, he ranked no 1 in several tests, including the VO2 MAX.

For a kid who, at the time, was still 17, that's huge
 
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