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Prospect Info: The Second Overall Pick Thread: Part II (Kakko/Hughes Talk)

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ZuccsFluffierFluffer said:
Yes and no.

You can get him for free next year, but I do think there is some value in getting an extra year of him on an ELC.

How much more valuable is Kreider than the #17-19 pick? I think it's a fair return.
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Sorry, I should of added "unless we know that we can sign him this year".

I agree that if we know we can get him under ELC for this coming season, then there's definitely some value there and that him and Carolina's 1st would be a good return.
 
ZuccsFluffierFluffer said:
Yes and no.

You can get him for free next year, but I do think there is some value in getting an extra year of him on an ELC.

How much more valuable is Kreider than the #17-19 pick? I think it's a fair return.
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Fox aside I don't think Kreider alone gets them any 17-19 pick

The stuff the Rangers have received back for players with a year term, who had two playoffs left probably does not even equate to to a 17-19 pick. The players who they sold who had one playoffs left without conditions, they all returned less than that and if those conditions do not come through those too will have returned less than that.

The only trade so far that returned more than that is Brassard, Zbad, Brassard had more term left, Zbad a pending RFA, Brassard real money left reduced by them waiting until after his bonus was paid out.

Everyone probably thinks I'm crazy for suggesting adding to Kreider to try to move up to top 10 pick, partly why I'd do so is because I don't see late 1st and Howden/Hajek level prospects moving the needle much as this whole rebuild progresses, and the Rangers already have that in their system.
 
Off Sides said:
Fox aside I don't think Kreider alone gets them any 17-19 pick

The stuff the Rangers have received back for players with a year term, who had two playoffs left probably does not even equate to to a 17-19 pick. The players who they sold who had one playoffs left without conditions, they all returned less than that and if those conditions do not come through those too will have returned less than that.

The only trade so far that returned more than that is Brassard, Zbad, Brassard had more term left, Zbad a pending RFA, Brassard real money left reduced by them waiting until after his bonus was paid out.

Everyone probably thinks I'm crazy for suggesting adding to Kreider to try to move up to top 10 pick, partly why I'd do so is because I don't see late 1st and Howden/Hajek level prospects moving the needle much as this whole rebuild progresses, and the Rangers already have that in their system.
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Stepan returned a 7OA....

The McDonagh deal also returned more than the value of a 17-19 OA pick.

Hell, a rental Hayes may return an 18 OA.
 
ZuccsFluffierFluffer said:
Stepan returned a 7OA....

The McDonagh deal also returned more than the value of a 17-19 OA pick.

Hell, a rental Hayes may return an 18 OA.
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McD was a package deal with Miller, there is no way to say.

Stepan had like 4 years left or something and was packaged with a goalie, that #7 pick in that draft was probably only available because the Yotes did not like much there at #7, or ADA. They may turn out to be right on the #7

Hayes may return #18, yet that still is going to take some stuff to happen for it to.
 
NYR Viper said:
I’ve mentioned this before but wouldn’t it be something to see Colorado sign Hayes and trade for Kreider? With Hayes there perhaps Kreider re-signs. Colorado immediately builds a true second line in one offseason. They have the cap space.

That would make a ton of sense for them.
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He-he, of course you mean Colorado (agrees) gets extended Kreider, Pionk (or Georgiev) and our Jets pick for 4OA, and signs Hayes....
 
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1 (Jets pick) - Arthur Kaliyev
1 (Stars pick) - Mo Seider
2 (Rangers pick) - Nathan Legare

BELIEVE IT AND IT WILL HAPPEN.
 
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Considering Prucha>Crosby, it's a fair comparison.

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Kreider has what? An 11 team no trade list? I think we tend to forget that. It's very likely Edmonton is on that list. If so, does Kreider wave if he expects to have an opportunity to play with McDavid? Very possible, but no guarantee.
 
What’s this Anglophone obsession with shortening about every name, especially the ones that don’t sound English?

Not in a million years I would have thought about referring to someone named Moritz as ‘Mo’. Funny stuff.
 
DutchNYR said:
What’s this Anglophone obsession with shortening about every name, especially the ones that don’t sound English?

Not in a million years I would have thought about referring to someone named Moritz as ‘Mo’. Funny stuff.
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I think it’s especially prevalent in hockey because of the diverse array of names. I think it’s also amplified on here because we’re typing and trying to fight autocorrect, and not sound like we’re drunk typing, is an ongoing battle.
 
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