The San Jose Sharks are horror-bad

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Sharks forward group is solid. Walman was a fantastic pick up on the back end and Askarov looks good. Sharks still have some really good young players coming too I like what they are doing. Just a matter of navigating the next phase well over the next two years or so.
 
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They need to cut their ticket prices in half for the product they're icing. That's all I'm going to say.

I went to their game last spring and at least then I could buy tickets for less than 10 bucks + whatever the site charged me extra..
 

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They're quite close

I'm a Sharks fan, I understand the optimism around the team, but despite having aquired some truly outstanding young players they simply don't have anything that resembles an NHL caliber defense and they don't have the prospects to make someone think that's on the way any time soon, they have a lot of work to do on the back end before anyone should assume they're going to become truly competitive

Celebrini and Askarov are revelatory, but they still need a real top pairing D man before they even have the skeleton of a good team
As a Blackhawks fan I appreciate your Objectivity. I would say the Sharks have the better Forward core and future goalie while the Blackhawks have wayyyy more talent on Defense with Vlasic leading the way followed by Levshunov and then Korchinski, Allen, EDM, Rinzel. That's why I am so interested in seeing who leaps ahead in like 2-3 YRS as both teams took different paths to rebuild one more through offense and other through defense.
 

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I went to their game last spring and at least then I could buy tickets for less than 10 bucks + whatever the site charged me extra..
That's interesting, cause I went last spring too and it was over 200 a ticket for the lower bowl before fees, and considering how empty it was they should've been charging 40 to try and build a fan base.
 

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I personally much prefer the Sharks over the Blackhawks in terms of current rosters and also prospects (though that can change in a hurry as players develop). If they managed to add Schaefer this summer as a stud d-man…look out!
 
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That's interesting, cause I went last spring too and it was over 200 a ticket for the lower bowl before fees, and considering how empty it was they should've been charging 40 to try and build a fan base.
I also went to your barn and made sweeping judgments on the franchise and fanbase after one game.

But seriously, the Sharks don't have a fanbase problem. They have a "sucked for 5 years" problem, and a typical Bay Area "fans pay attention to the good teams" problem -e.g. Warriors and 49ers. When the Sharks are good again, fans will come back. Saturday night was a sellout, Celebrini is already putting butts in seats.
 

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I also went to your barn and made sweeping judgments on the franchise and fanbase after one game.

But seriously, the Sharks don't have a fanbase problem. They have a "sucked for 5 years" problem, and a typical Bay Area "fans pay attention to the good teams" problem -e.g. Warriors and 49ers. When the Sharks are good again, fans will come back. Saturday night was a sellout, Celebrini is already putting butts in seats.
The Bay area in general has a very big bandwagon fanbase problem, and it's cute that you think I'm making an assumption based on one game as opposed to living here for over a decade.
 
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The Bay area in general has a very big bandwagon fanbase problem, and it's cute that you think I'm making an assumption based on one game as opposed to living here for over a decade.
It's ignorant to think a sports franchise in the heart of Silicon Valley would decrease ticket prices 80% because the team is bad. Not only that, lower bowl is 'premium' seating. For living here for a decade I'm not sure how this is shocking to you.

You could easily sit in sections 201-215 for $40 with a better view anyway.
 

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It's ignorant to think a sports franchise in the heart of Silicon Valley would decrease ticket prices 80% because the team is bad.
Naw. It's ignorant to pay high prices at a mostly empty arena for a bad team. Y'all should be absolutely hammering ownership publicly every chance you get for their greed, but keep getting butthurt over someone pointing out the obvious.
 

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Naw. It's ignorant to pay high prices at a mostly empty arena for a bad team. Y'all should be absolutely hammering ownership publicly every chance you get for their greed, but keep getting butthurt over someone pointing out the obvious.
I mean it only happens with every organization in every sport, but yeah, call out a hockey organization in California.
 

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Naw. It's ignorant to pay high prices at a mostly empty arena for a bad team. Y'all should be absolutely hammering ownership publicly every chance you get for their greed, but keep getting butthurt over someone pointing out the obvious.
What is ignorant is implying it should be obvious that there be a relationship between team success, ticket prices, and attendance. Two of the bottom 5 teams last year were top 5 in attendance and top 9 in average ticket price.
 
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Naw. It's ignorant to pay high prices at a mostly empty arena for a bad team. Y'all should be absolutely hammering ownership publicly every chance you get for their greed, but keep getting butthurt over someone pointing out the obvious.
Honestly I agree with you, but generally across most sports and franchises, as opposed to targeting the Sharks. Ticket prices are exorbitant and ridiculous and have mostly priced out a majority of the fandom in most pro sports, and being reliant on corporate STH's who suck as fans is a good way to hollow out the lower bowl in many barns. Furthermore the NHL is dumb as hell re: their approach to solving the local network problem/blackouts, which leads to apathy rather than driving ticket sales, but that's a whole 'nother discussion.

Butthurt is a stupid word to use, I'm sure you can do better.
 
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Honestly I agree with you, but generally across most sports and franchises, as opposed to targeting the Sharks. Ticket prices are exorbitant and ridiculous and have mostly priced out a majority of the fandom in most pro sports, and being reliant on corporate STH's who suck as fans is a good way to hollow out the lower bowl in many barns. Furthermore the NHL is dumb as hell re: their approach to solving the local network problem/blackouts, which leads to apathy rather than driving ticket sales, but that's a whole 'nother discussion.
I never said it was limited to the Sharks, the NBA for example steals from everyone and has somehow managed to frame it as players deserving the money when the tv contracts come out of the pockets of everyone via undisclosed sports fees on top of the already agreed upon cable contract.

I just think the Sharks are a pretty egregious offender within the NHL given the attendance and product, especially since the concessions are also outrageous with very low quality. Reminds me a lot of the As. There are other NHL teams that are just as guilty, but this thread isn't about them.
 

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