The San Jose Sharks are horror-bad

[ijuka]

solid 9 goals for, 35 against...

Turns out that if a team whose entire offense is carried by Karlsson loses Karlsson, their offense completely dies out.

 

[Headshot77]

I think it was obvious that they were gonna be the worst team in the league this year but holy shit they might get less than 20 points this season.

 

[Taswell]

I know he doesn't have much left to prove there, and he's playing as well as could be expected with what he has around him, but man I'd get Eklund out of there and back to the AHL or something. Just a terrible environment to kill a young kids confidence.

 

[LuGBuG]

I know he doesn't have much left to prove there, and he's playing as well as could be expected with what he has around him, but man I'd get Eklund out of there and back to the AHL or something. Just a terrible environment to kill a young kids confidence.

Anaheim looks good this year and that’s what everyone said about their young guys last year.

 

[Quinnisinoverhishead]

David Quinn is a real problem...
He is probably the worst coach in NHL history at developing talent.
Nobody progressed from his first year to his second year under his tutelage.

Mike Grier probably hired him... because he wants to get low picks for the foreseeable future. But he is a cancer around young NHL talent. This isn't college hockey. He is out of his depth.

People are going to say... "Look at the roster... what do you expect?".... Lame excuse.... These are still NHLers... The NHL is a game of parity... People can't and don't play for him.

Keep Eklund, Bordeleau & Will Smith as far away form Quinn as possible.

 

[Taswell]

Anaheim looks good this year and that’s what everyone said about their young guys last year.

I mean...they weren't THIS futile, and could score some goals at least.

 

[MXD]

David Quinn is a real problem...
He is probably the worst coach in NHL history at developing talent.
Nobody progressed from his first year to his second year under his tutelage.

Mike Grier probably hired him... because he wants to get low picks for the foreseeable future. But he is a cancer around young NHL talent. This isn't college hockey. He is out of his depth.

People are going to say... "Look at the roster... what do you expect?".... Lame excuse.... These are still NHLers... The NHL is a game of parity... People can't and don't play for him.

Keep Eklund, Bordeleau & Will Smith as far away form Quinn as possible.

That's legitimately one of the most delusionnal posts I've seen on this board, and I've been here for nearly 18 years.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Grier needed to gut that roster by moving their valued vets to hoard picks and prospects, makes the awful start feel like there's some light at the end of the tunnel for talent in the pipeline.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

I'd much rather the Sharks be like this than a middle-of-the-pack team with no cap space or prospects like they were before Grier took over. Atleast he's committed to the future.

 

[Anomie2029]

I know he doesn't have much left to prove there, and he's playing as well as could be expected with what he has around him, but man I'd get Eklund out of there and back to the AHL or something. Just a terrible environment to kill a young kids confidence.

Just wait until you see how the SJ Barracuda are going!

 

[BKarchitect]

It’s ok, Mack is one the way. Bay Area connection - Mack Cebrini’s dad Rick was Sports Medicine Director for Golden State.

Will Smith is an exceptional talent and guys like Eklund and Bordeleau are skilled but the Sharks are missing that explosive, all-around center to be the focal point of the rebuild. Hoping they get that next summer.

 

[KapG]

Blackwood looking alright tho

 

[Tkachuk4MVP]

I know he doesn't have much left to prove there, and he's playing as well as could be expected with what he has around him, but man I'd get Eklund out of there and back to the AHL or something. Just a terrible environment to kill a young kids confidence.

Disagree. He’s had more than enough time in the AHL and he been a bright spot so far this year.

 

[LevelingSolo]

Yeah but I think most had them finishing last this year

 

[Oddbob]

Nooo not the reverse jinx! Now we're gonna go on a ten game heater and finish 16th OA. Thanks OP...

Teams with 9 goals in 9 games, don't go on heaters!

 

[abo9]

Did they not finish 3rd last just last season?

And they traded away their >100pts franchise defenseman, as well as a near ppg, 30 goals scorer winger.

Couture being injured is their debatably 1st or 2nd C being out too.

They didnt bring in anyone of value to replace those guys.

Qnd based on toi this year, Kyle Burroughs is 3rd behind Ferraro (lol) and Hertl... and Burroughs was a healthy scratch on Vancouver's terrible defense last year.

Their 2nd forward in toi is Granlund.

Yes, it could very well be a historically bad seeason for them

 

[AlexModvechkin8]

Blackwood looking alright tho

He was terrific yesterday against Washington, especially when the Caps were on the PP. I was getting nervous that he was going to steal them the game.

 

[inthewings]

9 games into the season and their second-leading scorer has 3 points. This might be the worst team we've seen in the cap era.

 

[Kranix]

Mike Grier is still thinking they could get a little worse.

 

[Drake1588]

As they get healthier up front, they may want to find a good home for Blackwood. Nothing kills a good tank like a goalie who is comfortable all on his own facing 45+ shots a night. They're going to win some unwanted 1-0 and 2-1 games with him backstopping them.

 

[Stony Curtis]

1OA

Calling it here and now.

NHL player: "I worked so hard, honing my skills, staying after practice, watching video, meeting with coaches, doing my due diligence. Then it all paid off, and I got drafted #1 OA!"

NHL Tank Team: " We worked so hard, cutting corners, turning a blind eye to talent, going home early on Fridays, deleting relevent video...you know, not doing our due diligence. And then we got screwed by picking 10th OA!"

 

[EddieTheEagle]

Worst forward core in the league not even close especially with the Couture , Barabanov and Grandland injuries .

Highly debatable...

Logan Couture

Tomas Hertl

Alex Barabanov

Kevin Labanc

Anthony Duclair

Mike Hoffman

Nico Sturm

Filip Zadina

Fabian Zetterlund

William Eklund

Luke Kunin

Mikael Granlund

Connor Bedard

Lukas Reichel

Nick Foligno

Corey Perry

Tyler Johnson

Andreas Athanasiou

Philip Kurashev

Ryan Donato

Taylor Raddysh

Boris Katchouk

Jason Dickinson

Taylor Hall

I'd say coaching would be the most significant difference. The Hawks play like they remotely care, Sharks look like a dumpster fire.

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

No team is going to win many games when you score one goal per game. But I wish SJ more success this year than the flames.

 

[Lazlo Hollyfeld]

It's why I didn't understand Grier not wanting to retain any salary on Karlsson.

I understand that he achieved his goal but why not retain the max and stock up on as many draft picks/prospects/players as possible?

 

[Beukeboom Fan]

solid 9 goals for, 35 against...

Turns out that if a team whose entire offense is carried by Karlsson loses Karlsson, their offense completely dies out.

Which makes the PITT trade that much better for the Sharks IMO. Better to move Karlsson for $.50 on the dollar and start over immediately than have him single handedly keep the Sharks from being terrible.