The Roster Thread, Summer 2024

[Der Jaeger]

Hunch-i-ness prediction: Adams will land either Necas or Zegras in a trade

 

[Weltschmerz]

I noticed that there are many interesting players to trade who have one year left until UFA. I think it makes sense.

Wouldn't that mean trading for rentals?

 

[Fjordsen]

Hunch-i-ness prediction: Adams will land either Necas or Zegras in a trade

Wouldn't that mean trading for rentals?

Why not, depends on the price. For example, I don't think that a hypothetical Mangiapane will cost much. Another thing is Buchnevich or Konecny, but if it helps to get to the playoffs and won't cost too much, why not.

 

[Gabrielor]

That is exactly why if the Skinner buyout happens, it's a good sign.

The end of 3 E's might be nigh.

Of course if they buyout skinner and spend 10M under the cap....well, that is a different story.

That's the fear until it's proven wrong.

Unfortunately some clever folks have already worked out that a Skinner buyout now saves Pegula money.

 

[Zman5778]

Pleasantly surprised to see Kev not really dodge the Skinner question.

What did he say? I'm stuck with advising a bunch of incoming freshmen today........

 

[thewookie1]

Hunch-i-ness prediction: Adams will land either Necas or Zegras in a trade

God no, neither player interests me in the slightest

 

[Djp]

I did see a rumor about Gustavsson (MN) on Hockey News, but @ 3M+ for a backup I would doubt it.

I'd prefer they have sd backup not named Levi. I want Levi to play 50+ games in Rochester. 25/26 hes on Sabres

You could same the same for Jokiharju. Ruff and Adams have both mentioned him as a key piece this summer, yet most fans seem to think he's halfway out the door. It will be interesting to see what happens there. Both players are still developing.

Resigning Joker puts way too much money in D/G. He likely gets over $4M in arbitration

Hunch-i-ness prediction: Adams will land either Necas or Zegras in a trade

Why either player?

 

[Jim Bob]

It's not cheaper for an organization to pay players to not play for them.

Skinner on the roster costs $10M in 2024-25.

Skinner's buy out costs $2.4M in 2024-25.

 

[toddkaz]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803801811649720408

 

[TehDoak]

Skinner on the roster costs $10M in 2024-25.

Skinner's buy out costs $2.4M in 2024-25.

I'm reasonably sure that is CBA mandated cap amortization rather than what is paid.

IIRC (and someone can correct me if I am wrong here) the players gets the entire buyout up. The cap is simply spread out over 6 years.

 

[Beerz]

Skinner on the roster costs $10M in 2024-25.

Skinner's buy out costs $2.4M in 2024-25.

Now factor in Brady Tkachuks 8 million replacing Skinner

 

[Jim Bob]

I'm reasonably sure that is CBA mandated cap amortization rather than what is paid.

IIRC (and someone can correct me if I am wrong here) the players gets the entire buyout up. The cap is simply spread out over 6 years.

That is not what the CapFriendly buyout calculator represents.

Perhaps @dotcommunism can shed some light on whether buyout payments are spread out over the full length of the buyout (in this case 6x$2.4M) or just one lump sum payment at the time of the buyout.

 

[HaNotsri]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803798883996139987

Anything but a no is a confirmation of yes in this case. Have fun in Toronto Skinner!

 

[Jim Bob]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803786556898984309

 

[TheMistyStranger]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803786556898984309

I'm not overly familiar with Noah Cates - is he worth dropping from 11 to 32 for?

 

[zenthusiast]

What did he say? I'm stuck with advising a bunch of incoming freshmen today........

Essentially just that all options are on the table, he’s not going to tip his hand but understands why the question had to be asked etc.

It’s not a straight answer but acknowledging the possibility is nice

 

[Chainshot]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803786556898984309

Shuffling some deck chairs there.

 

[thewookie1]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803786556898984309

As I replied to the tweet

Far to much of a trade down for an ok player in Cates and Frost isn't a defensive Center whatsoever.

 

[Dubi Doo]

Trading away Greenway makes no damn sense.

 

[Chainshot]

Trading away Greenway makes no damn sense.

Most of that tweet strikes me as poorly done. Getting a late third for Jokiharju? Removing size and PKing from the lineup? Cates not being worth that sort of move in the first round. Weak for a group that does good work with their UFA predictions.

 

[Beerz]

KA first words were " Talked to Kelly McCrimmon the other day"

 

[Fjordsen]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1803786556898984309

Looks bad

 

[Jim Bob]

NHL trade big board: What we're hearing about the offseason's top targets

The Jacob Markstrom and Pierre-Luc Dubois trades got things rolling. What's coming next? Here's the latest on Chris Johnston's top targets.

www.nytimes.com

8. Tanner Jeannot, Tampa Bay Lightning​

2023-24 stats: 7 goals, 14 points, 12:01 ATOI, minus-10
Age: 27
Contract: $2.665 million through 2025 (UFA)

At the outset of yet another summer with tight cap dollars, the Lightning are looking for ways to create space. Enter Jeannot, the hard-hitting winger who hasn’t ever been close to duplicating the 24-goal, 41-point season had in Nashville in 2021-22. It’s safe to say he’s one of the few big swings made by Tampa general manager Julien BriseBois that didn’t pay off, and he also happens to be one year out from unrestricted free agency. BriseBois has never shied away from a tough decision, and if he can find a way to get Jeannot’s cap hit off the books, it might not even be that tough for him to pull the trigger on the deal.

I could see Adams having interest in Jeannot.

 

[dickiedunnwrotethis]

KA first words were " Talked to Kelly McCrimmon the other day"

Welcome to Buffalo, Wild Bill.

 

[Dubi Doo]

NHL trade big board: What we're hearing about the offseason's top targets

The Jacob Markstrom and Pierre-Luc Dubois trades got things rolling. What's coming next? Here's the latest on Chris Johnston's top targets.

www.nytimes.com

I could see Adams having interest in Jeannot.

Let's say Buffalo offers a futures package for Jeannot and Cirelli. Does anyone think it's possible TB would eat some of Cirelli's salary? We'd be taking a lot of cap space off of their hands.

I'd still dangle our 1st + a bit more for those two.