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McGarnagle

Yes.
Aug 5, 2017
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My gripe is the inconsistency and streakiness. At the macro level, they're on pace to over perform expectations over an 82 game schedule. At the micro level, there have been many stretches where they've hit a wall. Do I trust Monty to make the right adjustments and not panic in the playoffs? Absolutely not after last year. But it is what it is, he's getting a second chance to see if he's learned anything or if that's just the way he is.

This team reminds me a lot of 2010 - an underpowered roster that ultimately punched above their weight but had a ten game losing streak in January and ended the year with unexpected playoff success turned unexpected playoff choke. But they turned out alright the next year.
 

Number8

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Oct 31, 2007
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To me the team is soft and poorly coached. They have overachieved simply because of an outstanding goaltending duo. Way too many games are boring in involve no physicality whatsoever. The Toronto game a week or so ago and maybe one or two others have been exciting all year.

My hope is that the off-season brings some major changes to the culture of this team. More hammer, less nail. It’s a hope, but Mr Sweeney seems to really like our current style so I expect more of the same.
The goaltending has most certainly been the shining light for the team this season. A bit less spectacular of late, but still very very good.

However, we've not relied totally on goaltending. Our 225 GF are well within top 25% of the League.

After losing Krejci and Bergeron I think few would have expected that. For those that claim they did, I'm afraid I'll have to check your work on this math problem. Not that I don't trust you, but my inclination is to call bullshit on anyone who makes that claim.
 

Ladyfan

Sad times in the USA
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The goaltending has most certainly been the shining light for the team this season. A bit less spectacular of late, but still very very good.

However, we've not relied totally on goaltending. Our 225 GF are well within top 25% of the League.

After losing Krejci and Bergeron I think few would have expected that. For those that claim they did, I'm afraid I'll have to check your work on this math problem. Not that I don't trust you, but my inclination is to call bullshit on anyone who makes that claim.
I love your posts! Facts are cool.
 

Number8

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Oct 31, 2007
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Blaming the fans for what? Being second in the league? This doesn't make sense to me.
I blame the fans, personally. A few examples:

1) Has anyone lit themselves on fire in the stands during an opponents power play so as to distract the attacking team? Have they? What???? I don't hear you answering!!!!???? Point made. Fan base is soft as baby shit if you ask me.

2) Has anyone got together the entire fan base and held a joint retreat where we've sacrificed a human to the Stanley Cup Gods?????? I think not, and if you want to claim it's happened I'll need to see non AI generated video. Oooooh, human sacrifice is morally wrong. Everyone deserves to live, oooh oooh nooooo. Again, what happens when the fan base turns to p***yes.

3) Anyone ponied up money to the officials to swing games? I mean it's obvious other team's fans have done it. Anyone in the Black and Gold family upped the ante enough to win the bidding???? I'm waaiitingggg....... It's all fun and games until someone has to open their wallet.

God I'm pissed at all of you......

I love your posts! Facts are cool.
You might not like the next one I just posted below! Got bored and pulled a bit of a @NeelyDan !!!!:laugh::laugh::laugh:
 

LSCII

Cup driven
Mar 1, 2002
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Given the lack of top end talent and depth on the roster, I’d say the blame falls firmly on management. It’s a poorly constructed roster with glaring holes at forward and on defense. And given the lack of organizational talent in the prospect pipeline coupled with the lack of high picks, it doesn’t look like it wil be solved any time soon.
 

MarchysNoseKnows

Big Hat No Cattle
Feb 14, 2018
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Given the lack of top end talent and depth on the roster, I’d say the blame falls firmly on management. It’s a poorly constructed roster with glaring holes at forward and on defense. And given the lack of organizational talent in the prospect pipeline coupled with the lack of high picks, it doesn’t look like it wil be solved any time soon.
They have a top 2 winger, a top 5 defenseman, a top 5 netminder. Plus Marchand and Hampus. Great second level talent in Carlo/Coyle/Debrusk//Frederic.

What exactly are we “solving” for?
 

LSCII

Cup driven
Mar 1, 2002
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They have a top 2 winger, a top 5 defenseman, a top 5 netminder. Plus Marchand and Hampus. Great second level talent in Carlo/Coyle/Debrusk//Frederic.

What exactly are we “solving” for?
Uh huh, sure. And how many actual complete top 6 lines do they have? They have Pasta and Marchand and fill in the blanks. Which is what I said about having holes. I mean are you being obtuse or do you not realize you're in agreement with what I said? Pointing out secondary scoring on the bottom 6 doesn't make the top 6 holes go away. Same thing on defense. If they didn't have issues filling out the d pairings, why did they get Peeke? And why is Wotherspoon up? And Lohrei?
 

Bruinfanatic

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Bruins are ONE point out of best record with 15 OT loses to four for those pesky cats

Make it 9 OT loses instead of 16 and they are FFFFFive points up for overall record

In a bridge year where they lost their iconic franchise tough guy for a very unfortunate but bad decision caused by him not the Pres or GM

Yeh let’s blame Sweeney for ruining the franchise and making it soft :tinker:
I think his post is mostly saying they aren’t a team built for the playoffs
 
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BigBadBruins7708

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They have a top 2 winger, a top 5 defenseman, a top 5 netminder. Plus Marchand and Hampus. Great second level talent in Carlo/Coyle/Debrusk//Frederic.

What exactly are we “solving” for?

Their depth is bottom 6 players, not top 6. The team is being carried offensively by Pastrnak. He has points on 42% of all goals they've scored this year.

They need to solve for center, the thing you dont win a Cup without. Coyle and Zacha at 1 and 2 C is really bad team building.
 

Ladyfan

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Uh huh, sure. And how many actual complete top 6 lines doe they have? They have Pasta and Marchand and fill in the blanks. Which is what I said about having holes. I mean are you being obtuse or do you not realize you're in agreement with what I said? Pointing out secondary scoring on the bottom 6 doesn't make the top 6 holes go away. Same thing on defense. If they didn't have issues filling out the d pairings, why did they get Peeke? And why is Wotherspoon up?
I hope before next season then can acquire a couple of top line players. IMO this isn't always easy to do as there aren't many out there to get. It feels like some here think getting these players is like going to the store and purchasing them.

This season has gone better than I thought it would.

Some players stepped up (like Coyle).

Get some playoff experience for the players who have not yet played in the POs. Who knows?
 

Over the volcano

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Mar 10, 2006
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I think his post is mostly saying they aren’t a team built for the playoffs
Pretty sure they have the best record vs teams currently in the playoff picture. There's no 3v3 and shoot out in the playoffs too so all those OT losses don't mean a thing.
I shudder to think about what this place will be like when the Bruins are actually bad
We need to frame this post and hang it on the wall.
 
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DKH

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Feb 27, 2002
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I shudder to think about what this place will be like when the Bruins are actually bad
horror show. Last House on the Left, Wes Craven, disturbing.

I saw that at the Middleton drive in as 12-13 and I was ready to be a virgin the rest of my life

The Bruins have set the bar so high that folks here won’t even be able to a Minnesota/Islanders-like team let alone a Buffalo 13 year non playoff drought

Gordon Howe will get a red cape like Dr Steven Strange and rule over his flock of angry Bruins fans
 

zaYG

Nerevarine
Jun 29, 2012
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Sweeney and Neely.....big gap.....everyone else.

They're the 2 that in a a decade of roster building together have utterly failed to get even 1 young Top 6 center. Yeah, its not easy, but you can at least get 1 in a decade
Poitras? Maybe too early to say but he looks like one

Zacha? Not the biggest fan but he’s objectively a top 60 center in the league and young.
 
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MarchysNoseKnows

Big Hat No Cattle
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Uh huh, sure. And how many actual complete top 6 lines do they have? They have Pasta and Marchand and fill in the blanks. Which is what I said about having holes. I mean are you being obtuse or do you not realize you're in agreement with what I said? Pointing out secondary scoring on the bottom 6 doesn't make the top 6 holes go away. Same thing on defense. If they didn't have issues filling out the d pairings, why did they get Peeke? And why is Wotherspoon up? And Lohrei?
This is madness. Literally no one thinks they’re some complete perfect team. In fact, filling the holes they had - in an obvious transition year - as well as they have deserves praise. Not to mention your boy Frederic - who you have pilloried for years - is T45 in the entire league for 5v5 points among forwards. Tied with…Charlie Coyle.

Want to see who this team could have been? Look at the Penguins or the Capitals…
 

Eddie Munson

This year is my year. I can feel it. ‘86 baby!
Jul 11, 2008
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Hard to divvy out the blame pie but the stuff that comes to mind:

- Last Years Squad - Got their president's trophy and regular season record and then puked on themselves in the playoffs. Sweeney rightfully went all in with that roster. The team and Montgomery let him down. If he sat on his hands during the TDL last year and they got bounced, fans would rightfully give him hell a la Chiarelli. It may have put us in this cap/roster position this year but none of us would be bitching and moaning if they hung another banner.

- Montgomery - Piss poor coaching job in the playoffs and down the stretch. Not resting certain guys last year, fumbling the goalie situation mid series, questionable lineup choices. I'm seeing a lot of the same things this year and I worry this is who he is. Hoping he proves me wrong but he's part of the reason they lost in the 1st round last year which became a massive waste of assets.

- Sweeney & Neely - Can't let them not catch some blame. While I don't blame them for last years collapse and their talent and cap woes this year. I can blame them for a barren prospect cupboard and for not seemingly having a plan for what happened when Bergeron/Krejci retire. It's like that scene from Austin Powers when the guy is standing still, screaming for 5 minutes in front of the steamroller before it finally gets to him. Sweeney & Neely were the guy, and the steamroller was the inevitability of Bergy/Krejci retiring for the past several seasons. In the end, I'm stuck wondering if these two know how to build a winning team? Time will tell.

I say all that to say this. This season was supposed to be a retool. I'm happy they didn't spend at the TDL like this was some juggernaut destined for a SCF appearance. I don't think anyone is currently on the hot seat. This offseason will be my barometer for how I feel about this group, our coach, and the front office.
 

CDJ

Registered User
Nov 20, 2006
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Hell baby
I shudder to think about what this place will be like when the Bruins are actually bad
It’s actually a lot funnier when the fans aren’t spoiled by good teams, 2006 was a banner year for the boards and not just because I joined ;). Now it’s just obnoxious. They’re literally 2nd in hockey and people act like they’re the 10 seed in the conference


The roster has its flaws but most rosters are even more flawed! That’s salary-cap driven parity baby!
 

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