The Ratings Thread - a lot of people watched wrestling on Super Tuesday, sort of
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GKJ
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Mornings wouldn’t work because they want to do live shows. But I agree that they should air at 6:00. You are an inherently less valuable property by not running prime time, but these matching with Rampage look work when you consider that airs at 10pm
The booking is the drizzling shits. Daniel Bryan had great momentum when he arrived then they attach him to Moxley. Wardlow had a ton of momentum and then they had nothing for him. They can’t build their own stars other than MJF. They could have done better with Adam Cole too.
I know since the 90s having live shows is the way to go, but I think it's a bit over played. A better produced taped show allows one to have much better commentary(which can be overdubbed after the fact) and insert vignettes, promos, etc(without forcing the audience to o site for 10-15 minutes without anything happening) into the episode.
TheBeastCoast
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There is an irony is people acting like the company is collapsing due to a rating they deem bad meanwhile they might be on their way to selling out Wembley in their 4th year. The two sides don't exactly meet together. Things aren't nearly that bad with AEW, they aren't in any kind of danger and the booking while not perfect isn't that bad either.
Scandale du Jour
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NObody here is saying the company is collapsing. I just expected the Collision ratings the be higher than f***ing Rampage
TheBeastCoast
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Nobody here is no but it is out there and there is this prevailing theme of having to diagnose everything wrong with AEW based off of any random bad weekly number when by all accounts WBD are over the moon with AEW and they were the ones that wanted and are paying AEW to do Saturday nights.NObody here is saying the company is collapsing. I just expected the Collision ratings the be higher than f***ing Rampage
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Yeah, by all accounts, AEW is doing well financially.
People also overestimate the importance of TV ratings... or at least do not use the "right scale" to measure their impact.
Honestly, 450k is not that great, but the bad thing is the constent decline. I wonder what the numbers will look like once CFB starts.
GKJ
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Funny because the NHL Draft did it’s highest number ever.
That’s because people are stupid. They will get a huge jump in rights fees.
Emperoreddy
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I don't think Warner really cares. The new CEO loves cheap content to fill slots on the schedule, it doesn't need to be a super ratings winner.
And as long as WB-Discovery is paying AEW their tv deal money it's fine for AEW.
And as long as WB-Discovery is paying AEW their tv deal money it's fine for AEW.
Emperoreddy
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On the live side.
Combine this with how well AEW is doing selling tickets at Wembley, and yeah, there seems to be gold in them UK hills.
Feel like we are going to see a trend where PPVs for both companies are held internationally more and more.
Lots of untapped markets. Plus most American crowds blow ass
Combine this with how well AEW is doing selling tickets at Wembley, and yeah, there seems to be gold in them UK hills.
Feel like we are going to see a trend where PPVs for both companies are held internationally more and more.
Lots of untapped markets. Plus most American crowds blow ass
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Emperoreddy
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Episode 2 wasn't my favorite because of all the Forbidden Door tie ins, but episode 1 and 3 were really solid
Emperoreddy
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Emperoreddy
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It is important to remember MITB was Saturday, so i think Collision will recover and stay above Rampage for the rest of the summer.
Fall is going to be tough because of football, but you have to imagine all parties involved knew that was going to be tye case when they went forward with this
Fall is going to be tough because of football, but you have to imagine all parties involved knew that was going to be tye case when they went forward with this
Jussi
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They didn't go head-to-head, did they?
Also on the UK attendances, I think Simon Miller said in his Ups And Downs videos he did outside the arena after the shows with loads of other fans that attended them, that UK fans are just starving for events like this, which is why both AEW and WWE will sell out these kind of events. Those fans will likely attend all shows from both companies that come out there because they're there for the live experience, to sing and chant with other fans.
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Emperoreddy
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It's the truth. In the big picture unless you know how every set of eyeballs watched the show and can measure those viewer habits TV ratings don't carry the cache they may have had forty years ago when you watched it on TV or used a VCR to record the channel or did not watch it at all. It's a different world and for better or worse you can't compare or debate TV ratings because they aren't accurate. It's one measure but it's not the final say on who and how many watched a show.
edit...cool and to some degree you are not wrong however we aren't finance executives, we are idiots on a message board in a ratings thread
edit...cool and to some degree you are not wrong however we aren't finance executives, we are idiots on a message board in a ratings thread
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Khelandros
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Ratings are about advertising numbers. Comparing DVR, where you can skip commercials, and live views is not the same. No finance person is going to use DVR numbers as an argument.
Emperoreddy
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DVR numbers are meaningless just like people watching on watchwrestling are meaningless.
Networks need a certain amount of total viewers and demo numbers to sell the ad space to companies at a good rate. As long as they are doing well enough compared to the rest of TV it's fine.
They also factor in the cost to air the show. As long as WB feels like the margin of ad buys vs the cost of the TV deal puts them ahead, they are happy.
All signs say it is, so it's fine. No that doesn't mean that rumored $1 billion TV deal is happening, that number was internet bullshit. No company is putting that kind of money out for wrestling on cable.
But they will be renewed and should be fine as long as they don't bloat their own books with overpriced contracts.
Domestic ticket tales are more concerning, but also seems fixable if they mix in more international shows and head to more untapped markets.
There isn't actually a wrestling war, as much as fans seem to want one. None of the shows directly compete with each other on TV. They never share the same city in short order where one company could zap ticket sales from the other. The actual talent are all mostly friends or have professional opinions of the workers from the other company.
Networks need a certain amount of total viewers and demo numbers to sell the ad space to companies at a good rate. As long as they are doing well enough compared to the rest of TV it's fine.
They also factor in the cost to air the show. As long as WB feels like the margin of ad buys vs the cost of the TV deal puts them ahead, they are happy.
All signs say it is, so it's fine. No that doesn't mean that rumored $1 billion TV deal is happening, that number was internet bullshit. No company is putting that kind of money out for wrestling on cable.
But they will be renewed and should be fine as long as they don't bloat their own books with overpriced contracts.
Domestic ticket tales are more concerning, but also seems fixable if they mix in more international shows and head to more untapped markets.
There isn't actually a wrestling war, as much as fans seem to want one. None of the shows directly compete with each other on TV. They never share the same city in short order where one company could zap ticket sales from the other. The actual talent are all mostly friends or have professional opinions of the workers from the other company.
Jussi
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Many of them live in Florida, very close to each other if not downright as neighbors
