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I think it is very unlikely we make the playoffs without Parayko. I expect the defense to struggle. Hopefully we can quickly switch into prioritizing our younger players and get into a good draft position.
 
LGB said:
I think it is very unlikely we make the playoffs without Parayko. I expect the defense to struggle. Hopefully we can quickly switch into prioritizing our younger players and get into a good draft position.
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We're only 5 points up on the #7 pick(Anaheim).
That spread can evaporate VERY quickly(lose tonight and it's just 3 points).
 
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Mike Liut said:
Hot take….

We lose tonight in Anaheim and tomorrow in LA
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How can you say that?!?!?! They are building LOVE in the locker room. Love conquers all. It conquers the lack of elite talent. it conquers the injuries to our best players. It makes wingers Centers and LHD into RHD. It will take this team to the promise land...assuming that promise land is the 15th OA pick, cause that's where it will take us.
 
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LGB said:
I think it is very unlikely we make the playoffs without Parayko. I expect the defense to struggle. Hopefully we can quickly switch into prioritizing our younger players and get into a good draft position.
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It was unlikely even with him. They won't make it unless their top players raise their game, something they won't do.
 
LetsGoBooze said:
Mike were you a former politician?
No one flip-flops quite like you, and it cracks me up.
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For Mike

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Just a joke lol let the man flip and flop all he wants it’s hard being a Blues fan sometimes!
 
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Vancouver's remaining schedule looks brutal: WPG, DAL, & VGK twice, COL 1x

I don't have a lot of faith in Calgary to keep winning. I've said it all season but their underlying numbers look downright ugly. If Dan Vladar didn't turn into Dominik Hasek over the last week or so, they'd already be sunk.

I still think Minnesota is in danger of missing the playoffs. Only 8 points up on the Blues now (1 game at hand). They are really struggling to score goals with Kaprisov and Eriksson Ek out. That last remaining Blues v. Wild game is going to be huge.

L.A. is up just 3 points on the Blues but they have 4 games at hand. I don't see them falling.
 
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LetsGoBooze said:
Mike were you a former politician?
No one flip-flops quite like you, and it cracks me up.
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The problem is, I either want a top 7 pick or the playoffs…nothing in between. The team prior to the break looked like a top 7 pick. The team after the break looked like a playoff team. Then Parayko is lost. What are we supposed to root for?
 
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Mike Liut said:
Sad but true
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Ive come to terms were not getting a top 10 pick, schedule is just too easy. But possibly 13 or 14 is that sweet spot. I think we can get this team playing meaningful hockey down the stretch which a lot of guys on here want. But we dont necessarily need to make the playoffs this season, as the chase will be enough. My preference is finishing as low as possible as long as were in the race till the final week or two of the season. I think 13 or 14 is realistic for this goal, considering the entirety of the situation.
 
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LetsGoBooze said:
Ive come to terms were not getting a top 10 pick, schedule is just too easy. But possibly 13 or 14 is that sweet spot. I think we can get this team playing meaningful hockey down the stretch which a lot of guys on here want. But we dont necessarily need to make the playoffs this season, as the chase will be enough. My preference is finishing as low as possible as long as were in the race till the final week or two of the season. I think 13 or 14 is realistic for this goal, considering the entirety of the situation.
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Agree
 
StLewis11 said:
I'm wondering if Dvorsky wouldn't already be the upgrade over Sunny. And
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Sunny recently had the first three point game of his career. The coach said Sunny has the best hockey sense of anyone on the team in the defensive zone. And he is holding his own in the face off circle.

Sunny isn't going to win the Hart Trophy, but he is an asset for this team, not a liability.
 
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Majorityof1 said:
How can you say that?!?!?! They are building LOVE in the locker room. Love conquers all. It conquers the lack of elite talent. it conquers the injuries to our best players. It makes wingers Centers and LHD into RHD. It will take this team to the promise land...assuming that promise land is the 15th OA pick, cause that's where it will take us.
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Sure, ridicule people for rooting for their favorite team to WIN games. I want better draft picks too, but you can just as easily root for getting the better player at a later pick (like Parayko) and still enjoy the team playing their best hockey of the year now. The cognitive dissonance of being disappointed by them fighting through adversity is not my thing.
 
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Stupendous Yappi said:
Sure, ridicule people for rooting for their favorite team to WIN games. I want better draft picks too, but you can just as easily root for getting the better player at a later pick (like Parayko) and still enjoy the team playing their best hockey of the year now. The cognitive dissonance of being disappointed by them fighting through adversity is not my thing.
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Agreed. I would also like to quash the idea that you can't find decent talent outside of the top 10. Look at Boston...

McAvoy 14th overall
Pastrnak 25th overall
Bergeron 45th overall
Krejci 63rd overall
Marchand 71st overall

A big part of building a good team is the development stage. Lots of teams draft high and provide questionable support for the prospects. The Blues are one of the most patient organizations in the league, and Boston is proof that winning culture is a real thing. The consensus surrounding this year's draft is that the talent outside of the 8 seems to be more even than in recent years, and based on Army's timeline, it doesn't seem like he is waiting on this year's draft pick anyways to make this current core competitive. Those prospects are already in the pipeline.
 
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Stupendous Yappi said:
Sure, ridicule people for rooting for their favorite team to WIN games. I want better draft picks too, but you can just as easily root for getting the better player at a later pick (like Parayko) and still enjoy the team playing their best hockey of the year now. The cognitive dissonance of being disappointed by them fighting through adversity is not my thing.
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Where did I ridicule any fan? I ridiculed Binnington's comment and that ridiculous Blues social media team post trying to sell fans on doing nothing at the TDL. I disagree with fans wanting to win, but I have not ridiculed them. They have ridiculed me for prioritizing the desire for long term success over short term.

And yes, you can get great players with later picks. Everyone loves to name 5-10 names out of the hundreds of late round picks every year. The odds are better to get better players by picking earlier. Name all the Benn, Kucherov's and Parayko's you want. they are the exception, not the rule.

Would you be on board if I advocated for trading away our entire draft for the next 10 years because I can name a half dozen great undrafted NHL players? Bobrovsky, Martin St. Louis, Mark Giordano. Who needs draft picks at all?
 
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