OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: Whats a Running Back? Does it make the Steel Steeler?

[Shaftception]

Porter jr. has already seemingly learned the #1 rule of how to become a star corner in the league.

Cheat and cheat often, they won't call it enough to take away the advantage of how often you will get away with it.

 

[Empoleon8771]

It's still hilarious to me that the Browns traded a fortune for Watson and gave him a blank check only for him to end up this mediocre. He's not even a good QB at this point, I'd struggle to even call him above average.

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

Steelers didn’t run a play in the red zone lmao

 

[Colonel Mustard]

What sucks is they just don’t fire coordinators mid season… if there was ever a time to break that mold, it’s now. Even though they’d run the same plays. They just need someone else calling them and slowly implementing their own.

I am sure whoever came in right now in house would not run so many jet sweeps and whatever the hell that 3rd and 1 play was.

 

[JTG]

I'm still wondering where Najee came from for those 2 runs in the 2nd half. Maybe if he ran like that all of the time, he wouldn't be splitting carries with Warren.

 

[NewAgeOutlaw]

Steelers didn’t run a play in the red zone lmao

It's just as well, their red zone offense is even more inept than the offense in general.

 

[xlm34]

Positives:

+This defense can be good
+That has to be the last time we see Gunner play for this team, right?

 

[OnMyOwn]

I am sure whoever came in right now in house would not run so many jet sweeps and whatever the hell that 3rd and 1 play was.

That’s my point. Same playbook but someone else calling plays…that wouldn’t make the stupid f***ing calls he does. I’m sure there’s good plays in there, just not in whatever order/scenario Canada tries to call them.

 

[ChaosAgent]

The OC, the QB and the OL.

Canada is an atrocity, would be hired by no other NFL team and maybe 15% of college teams given his resume. He is there because he coached Tomlin's son (gave him a scholly?), the Rooneys are obsessed with Pitt guys and Tomlin likes to surround himself with dummies to make himself look smart. Full stop. His resume was trash and totally unfit to be an NFL OC. This was clear to anyone when the hire was made.

Kenny has regressed, accuracy is regularly bad (it got better somewhat tonight) and the decision-making is painful. He is under siege however.

The OL. Omar Khan, where you at? The interior of this line was all bought at a pretty big price tag by you and we invested a first round pick who is WORSE than the performance that Chuks and Dan Moore put forward tonight. Think about that. Jones is worse than Dan Moore and Dan Moore was beaten by Garrett worse than Rudolph was.

Fire Canada tomorrow and then see what you have with Kenny. Hope the OL gets better.
And yeah, Jaylen Warren >>>>> Najee but anyone who has watched the past year could tell you that. It's immaterial compared to the aforementioned issues.

 

[Shaftception]

It's like the Browns knew exactly what was going to be called on almost every play. Canada never sets anything up and if he does set something up he fails to use it to his advantage. It's really getting old and the defense should not have to carry this team every week.

He does have a few plays that are creative and work well when properly executed.

On the Pickens TD the fake handoff and push by the line totally caught the linebackers/coverage to the right peering into the backfield, froze them all for a good second or two, and the underneath drag to the left pulled the rest of the backers to the left. That's why Pickens was so wide open over the middle.

Then the dump off to Warren out of the trips formation to the left that went for 30 or whatever was a great design as well.

Too bad they're so few and far between. Those kinds of plays are routine in just about every other playbook.

 

[ChaosAgent]

++++DeShaun Watson, arguably a serial predator, cost the Browns 3 1st round draft picks and 15% of their salary cap for 5 years. And he isn't even good at football!

 

[Colonel Mustard]

Apparently minkah was taken to the hospital

 

[Andy99]

Apparently minkah was taken to the hospital

Yikes…I hope that was precautionary and not a serious chest, heart, lung etc injury…

 

[mynameisnick4]

Apparently minkah was taken to the hospital

The last time he went out they showed him on the sidelines and it looked like he was dry heaving/about to puke. They said he was getting x-rays on his chest, hopefully its nothing bad...

 

[Empoleon8771]

++++DeShaun Watson, arguably a serial predator, cost the Browns 3 1st round draft picks and 15% of their salary cap for 5 years. And he isn't even good at football!

Pickett may be Tommy Maddox 2.0 but at least the Steelers didn't trade 3 1sts and pay $230 million for a different Tommy Maddox caliber QB.

 

[Colonel Mustard]

The browns practically lived in the steeler backfield tonight. And the times they were there Kp didnt always make the best choices.

 

[metalan2]

Steelers defense has scored more touchdowns than our offense this year.

 

[ChaosAgent]

The browns practically lived in the steeler backfield tonight. And the times they were there Kp didnt always make the best choices.

Pickett keeps on trying to spin and roll left. The problem is he does not have the arm strength to actually throw that way. He looks atrocious going to his left.
He needs to be running right or trying to step up in the pocket.

I realize this is easier said than done. The OL has been a huge disappointment. Semuelo-Cole-Daniels were supposed to be solid at least but they are even getting blown up.

It's the coordinator, OL and QB. Just like the issues have been for 4 years now.
I ripped on Kenny because it's the biggest problem if he's bad. We're kinda screwed for years if he is. But the OL and Canada were probably worse tonight. Warren, Austin and Pickens were the only bright spots.

 

[metalan2]

The worst part about this is we have been watching the worst imaginable football since Canada was hired. We will still be watching it until he's gone. Regardless of what we do this season. The brand of football is mind numbing.

 

[Mr Jeff Jimerson]

Pittsburgh Steelers Order of Operations

1. Fire Matt Canada

2. Release Gunner Olszewski

3. Start Peezy's kid

 

[CheckingLineCenter]

I don’t think just the offense is worrisome.

Khan’s biggest misses this off-season were on D. Not keeping Sutton and replacing him with PP is looking bad. New ILBs do not look that good. DL wasn’t strengthened enough and it’s showing at point of attack in run game (giving up 200 yards/game right now). Secondary is gonna be a serious issue against non Deshaun Watson quarterbacked teams. They can’t just rely on pash rush and splash plays bailing them out.

 

[ChaosAgent]

I don’t think just the offense is worrisome.

Khan’s biggest misses this off-season were on D. Not keeping Sutton and replacing him with PP is looking bad. New ILBs do not look that good. DL wasn’t strengthened enough and it’s showing at point of attack in run game (giving up 200 yards/game right now). Secondary is gonna be a serious issue against non Deshaun Watson quarterbacked teams. They can’t just rely on pash rush and splash plays bailing them out.

Sutton for Pat Pete looks bad but I don't share your concerns about the Run D after that game. The Browns were always going to make some hay in the running game. Yes the 70 yarder sucked but the Run D did fine otherwise.

For that matter, why is Wallace of all people matched up against #1s. A $3M corner.

 

[NewAgeOutlaw]

Btw, what happened with Najee on those 2 big runs in the 4th is he made people miss at the line.

Warren is more agile, so he makes people miss at the line more often, so he is more productive.

Teams know if they are passing or running. The line blows assignments routinely. A competent OC could at least make Warren and Najee into a respectable tandem.

And jeez, do they desperately need to get the run going to open up the passing game. Pickens being a freak of nature is 95% of their passing offense.

 

[wheelz87]

Just wanted to say - **** you deshaun.
Dude is the definition of a pri**. Hope he never has any success in his career.

 

[Captain Hook]

Defense looked more like itself tonight. Not a perfect unit but the edge group is capable of terrorizing a lot of teams.

Hard to be optimistic about the offense going forward when the coordinator sucks and KP looks this awful. Canada needs to go. Continuity means nothing when the results are this bad. You have nothing to lose by making a change at this point.

I guess you could hold out hope for KP. It's hard to but the first two opponents have extremely good defenses, we haven't been able to run the ball to make it easier on KP and settle him down when he's struggling. Maybe a new coordinator could help him. We have to try that first before making any QB change but KP's decision making and missed throws to wide open WR's are very concerning though.