GDT: The Pittsburgher Thread - Training Camp is Upon Us

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He may have been saying stuff to her while he was sitting there - who knows.

I basically feel for the dude because now he has a million people seeing him getting brained because of his dumb ass wife.


Definitely, it's an embarrassment. And how it went down viral and public, I think is grounds to break it off. But I hope for his sake he is not married with kids because then he is stuck (and screwed). Otherwise Karen will take the kids and half his stuff regardless of who's fault or who files because she can.
 

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They did win the division and added more talent than they had last season IMHO.

Their schedule is pretty brutal though, but tough schedules often don’t look as scary as the season progresses.

Steelers own Lamar and I’m not scared of the Browns unless it’s the playoffs (then every team look like the ‘89 Niners).

We’ll see what happens, but I’m not seeing this doomsayer collapse so many are predicting.

I'm not seeing it either. Like both of us have said, I think the addition of Najee makes the offense good enough to be in the top half of the league. I think the defense even without a starting CB is good enough to be top 10. I personally think this is a 9-8 team if they can stay healthy. If they start getting banged up, it may be a different story.
 

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8/31 are final cuts. I am hopeful we can do the same thing we did with Joe Haden and try to find another starting CB and maybe some more OL depth.

let’s just say the ben we saw last night looks just like that in week 18 and this team goes 12-5. Win the division. What makes you think the result in the playoffs will be any different than what we saw the last 10 years
 

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let’s just say the ben we saw last night looks just like that in week 18 and this team goes 12-5. Win the division. What makes you think the result in the playoffs will be any different than what we saw the last 10 years

I actually don't think we have had a team that had this kind of potential in a really long time. Even during the Killer B's run (2014-2017), the defense wasn't anywhere close to what it is now. In 2014, they had the 18th ranked defense. 2015 - 11th. 2016 - 10th. 2017 - 7th. Should also be noted that this is by points again, and the defense actually gave up way more yards. The defense last year was ranked 3rd in the NFL and also in the top 3 in yards, 2nd in turnovers, and tops in sacks.

The big difference this year are the unknowns, but I think Najee and Freiermuth will prove to be highly productive, and the receiving corps is more than serviceable. This team, IMO, is way more dangerous than the teams from 14-17. 18-20 never stood a chance because there was no running game and it's really hard to completely pass your way to a Super Bowl.

The Tomlin factor is there, and I'm right there on that train that he cannot stay out of his own way, but this team has the potential to be really f***ing good, especially if that offensive line comes together.
 
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They did win the division and added more talent than they had last season IMHO.

Their schedule is pretty brutal though, but tough schedules often don’t look as scary as the season progresses.

Steelers own Lamar and I’m not scared of the Browns unless it’s the playoffs (then every team look like the ‘89 Niners).

We’ll see what happens, but I’m not seeing this doomsayer collapse so many are predicting.

I've been saying this all camp on here. I don't get it. Hell, maybe we'll be proven wrong, but they have the best front 7 in football, a few elite pieces in the secondary, and are deep at WR, TE, and RB. The OL is probably trash and they can use another CB, but the crash and burn predictions are just weird.
 
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Definitely, it's an embarrassment. And how it went down viral and public, I think is grounds to break it off. But I hope for his sake he is not married with kids because then he is stuck (and screwed). Otherwise Karen will take the kids and half his stuff regardless of who's fault or who files because she can.

I think it would take more than getting knocked out in front of millions to give up what I’ve built with my wife over the last 15 years.

I’d probably be pissed for awhile, but you get over things.

It’s like getting your ass beat at school, then you don’t want to go in the next day, but eventually you get over it and move on with life.

I'm not seeing it either. Like both of us have said, I think the addition of Najee makes the offense good enough to be in the top half of the league. I think the defense even without a starting CB is good enough to be top 10. I personally think this is a 9-8 team if they can stay healthy. If they start getting banged up, it may be a different story.

The offense has more weapons than I can ever remember in this era.

Defense should have a great pass rush and solid secondary… and if JS can actually cover a TE that’s a huge upgrade over what they had last season.

Only down grade is Nelson’s spot and he had a pretty bad season IMHO.

There is a ton of talent to work with here, but the schedule is really rough, Roth is definitely old (but not cooked) and Tomlin is Tomlin.

I've been saying this all camp on here. I don't get it. Hell, maybe we'll be proven wrong, but they have the best front 7 in football, a few elite pieces in the secondary, and are deep at WR, TE, and RB. The OL is probably trash and they can use another CB, but the crash and burn predictions are just weird.

Ya OL could derail all their plethora of skill players. I could see that being one of the issues that could ruin their season.

Line last season was dog shit though.
 

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Just to kinda chime in after half-assed reading a few posts. Count me in the camp of thinking they should be better than most people seem to think. I know they had a big old fart of a final few games last year, but they were 12-4 and division champions. And I think they’ve built a better defense since then (and it was already great in the first place) and I think adding Najee and some new wrinkles with the Canada offense might just make that unit even better. The OL is a bit scary, but if they can just give Ben enough time to go through his reads and make good decisions, I think they’ll be ok. Maybe I’m a homer but I can’t see them winning less than double digits this year.
 

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There are a few things that I think will make a huge difference...

- Najee will have to be respected. He turned a 3 yard dump pass into a 33 yard gain last night. Conner rarely did that. Ben has a legit safety valve again
- Red zone offense should be really good with a 2nd year Claypool, Najee, and Freiermuth.
- Schobert being an accomplished covered linebacker and tackling machine
- Highsmith not looking like a downgrade from Dupree at all.
- Harvin being able to punt the absolute f*** out of the ball should see us turn the field a little more.
 
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There are a few things that I think will make a huge difference...

- Najee will have to be respected. He turned a 3 yard dump pass into a 33 yard gain last night. Conner rarely did that. Ben has a legit safety valve again
- Red zone offense should be really good with a 2nd year Claypool, Najee, and Freiermuth.
- Schobert being an accomplished covered linebacker and tackling machine
- Highsmith not looking like a downgrade from Dupree at all.
- Harvin being able to punt the absolute f*** out of the ball should see us turn the field a little more.

Having Bush back will also help - even though he’s still a work in progress.

Their rotation at OLB could be the best in the league with Highsmith’s emergence and by adding Ingram.

Steelers always seem to have corner issues so I’m not overly concerned with that possible weakness.

OL is likely going to make or break this team’s fortunes this season. It’s the only real issue I see that could be truly worrisome.

I like a lot of the individual talent, but these guys are young and haven’t played together, so it could easily cause the offense to implode.

Like I also mentioned, Lamar Jackson has been the Steelers’ bitch - yet they are the biggest threat to win the division?

I expect the Browns to stumble because it’s what they do.

Bengals, who knows.

I’m just not seeing how the Steelers are now some shitty team that can’t handle these three teams - just some bizarre shit coming from many Steelers fans and talking heads.
 

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I’m just not seeing how the Steelers are now some shitty team that can’t handle these three teams - just some bizarre shit coming from many Steelers fans and talking heads.

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Having Bush back will also help - even though he’s still a work in progress.

Their rotation at OLB could be the best in the league with Highsmith’s emergence and by adding Ingram.

Steelers always seem to have corner issues so I’m not overly concerned with that possible weakness.

OL is likely going to make or break this team’s fortunes this season. It’s the only real issue I see that could be truly worrisome.

I like a lot of the individual talent, but these guys are young and haven’t played together, so it could easily cause the offense to implode.

Like I also mentioned, Lamar Jackson has been the Steelers’ bitch - yet they are the biggest threat to win the division?

I expect the Browns to stumble because it’s what they do.

Bengals, who knows.

I’m just not seeing how the Steelers are now some shitty team that can’t handle these three teams - just some bizarre shit coming from many Steelers fans and talking heads.

The Bengals f***ed up when they watched their QB get killed and put out for the season and they passed on Sewell and picked Chase instead.
 

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I think the OL is a concern, but only in pass protection. Turner and Green are both maulers in run blocking. Green looked good to me last game and abused a couple guys.

the OL last year was complete shit, so I’m not really seeing a downgrade there, TBH.
 

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The Bengals f***ed up when they watched their QB get killed and put out for the season and they passed on Sewell and picked Chase instead.

Chase hasn’t been great either. Classic Cincy, Burrow should’ve never agreed to go there, he’s going to be running for his life.
 

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I think the OL is a concern, but only in pass protection. Turner and Green are both maulers in run blocking. Green looked good to me last game and abused a couple guys.

the OL last year was complete shit, so I’m not really seeing a downgrade there, TBH.

I keep mentioning how bad the O line was, but there is always a chance it can be even worse.

That would be frightening though, given they had the worst run game in the league and we saw how bad they were when BR actually needed time.
 

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Chase hasn’t been great either. Classic Cincy, Burrow should’ve never agreed to go there, he’s going to be running for his life.

Too early to say anything about Chase, but yeah a stud OL was the obvious choice. A great question for an NFL history test would be to compare and contrast Mike Brown and Kevin Colbert as GMs. The compare is pretty short. Both are in the same division and both have been gifts to the Steelers’ fortunes over the years. The contrast list is pretty long.
 

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Too early to say anything about Chase, but yeah a stud OL was the obvious choice. A great question for an NFL history test would be to compare and contrast Mike Brown and Kevin Colbert as GMs. The compare is pretty short. Both are in the same division and both have been gifts to the Steelers’ fortunes over the years. The contrast list is pretty long.

Yeah, Chase also missed all of last season so the adjustment process may be difficult initially. I’m not gonna write him off until he’s played in the league for two years at least. Corey Davis took a while to adjust to the NFL, and now he’s a stud. That said, when you have Higgins and Boyd already, just seems like they needed Chase to come in right away and be an impact player considering the draft capital/opportunity cost.
 

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Didn't make it to week 10 in the schedule?

reading comprehension my friend…I didn’t say Detroit wasn’t on the schedule…I said there aren’t “many Detroits” on the schedule…in fact, that’s probably the only shitty team on it…
 

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reading comprehension my friend…I didn’t say Detroit wasn’t on the schedule…I said there aren’t “many Detroits” on the schedule…in fact, that’s probably the only shitty team on it…

I mean, it's a tough schedule but they play the Bengals twice, Detroit, Denver, Chicago, Vegas, the Chargers...those are all non-playoff teams both last year and probably this year.
 
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I used to be a gentleman until I was hit in the head with a bottle and nothing was done because it was a drunk female (scar on the back of my head- she accused me of something that I clearly did not do, which her friends told her I was the wrong guy, so I said basically have a nice night (literally) and turned around. She smacked me in the head with a beer bottle. No charges and she didn't even get kicked out of the bar she was just "moved" Mcfaddens circa 2008).

My policy now is, if any human adult touches me I hit them. Period. Don't touch me-end of story.
 
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The Bengals f***ed up when they watched their QB get killed and put out for the season and they passed on Sewell and picked Chase instead.

That pick was a great pick...for me to watch...because it led to Rashawn Slater falling to the Chargers at 13
 

Andy99

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I mean, it's a tough schedule but they play the Bengals twice, Detroit, Denver, Chicago, Vegas, the Chargers...those are all non-playoff teams both last year and probably this year.

yeah but the Chargers are really good, Denver should be much improved and we always have trouble with the Raiders…maybe only Chicago I’d put in the same category of Detroit and that depends on Fields and how he does…I don’t really consider the Bengals lol…they’re intradivsion so anything can happen, but yeah they could suck if Burrow is not back to form
 
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