OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: They Blamed Canada

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bigdaddyk88

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You don't seem to be able to parse through the lines. At all. Or take human behavior into account when reading statements. You're just lacking intellect.
Despite the multiple times on record khan has said he wants Tomlin to get an extension and wants to work with him you think he is lying
 

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Despite the multiple times on record khan has said he wants Tomlin to get an extension and wants to work with him you think he is lying

Of course he’s BSing.

Kahn doesn’t strike me as a stupid man and he saw what happened to Colbert when Tomlin came around and f***ed Colbert’s legacy in the ass.
 

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This is the point I've made several times on here the last couple of weeks. Tomlin is not a leader. He got lucky to come into a team that had a roster full of veteran leaders (and Lebeau) and rode their coattails to his success. Once those guys were gone and it was up to him, it's been a steady decline into the complete mess they are now.

He's not an X's and O's guy, either.

So what is he?

Terry was right. He's a glorified cheerleader.
 
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He does have JJ McCarthy though, and that guy is pretty good.
He may be good… but he’s not Justin Herbert though… and again if this would happen and Harbaugh comes in a prioritizes the running game and that makes the Chargers tougher to defend, then I’m all for it. Their biggest issue offensively right now is that they can’t run the ball. I’m perfectly fine with a coach coming in and fixing that problem

Despite the multiple times on record khan has said he wants Tomlin to get an extension and wants to work with him you think he is lying
I mean he’s not going to come out and say “yeah this season has really opened my eyes and I think coach Tomlin is losing a feel for the game” while he could potentially be trying to trade him this offseason
 
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Of course he’s BSing.

Kahn doesn’t strike me as a stupid man and he saw what happened to Colbert when Tomlin came around and f***ed Colbert’s legacy in the ass.
Interesting since everyone is praising Khan for his 1st draft and nothing changed in the decision making process. Andy sets up the board with input from Tomlin and then Khan uses the board to decide who to draft and if trading up or down is an option
Andy had more input with FA.

He may be good… but he’s not Justin Herbert though… and again if this would happen and Harbaugh comes in a prioritizes the running game and that makes the Chargers tougher to defend, then I’m all for it. Their biggest issue offensively right now is that they can’t run the ball. I’m perfectly fine with a coach coming in and fixing that problem


I mean he’s not going to come out and say “yeah this season has really opened my eyes and I think coach Tomlin is losing a feel for the game” while he could potentially be trying to trade him this offseason
Khan can’t trade Tomlin
 

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somewhere in this thread Big Daddy said that if the bottom fell out for this team he would support making a change at coach. Good to see his schillery for Tomlin is more powerful than his word.
It hasn’t fallen out. He has been here 2 more years than Cowher. They last time they had a losing season they drafted 7.
There is multiple paths 1 is a trade then ART Can reset with an unknown defensive guy on the cheap. The other is an extension where everyone else on the staff is let go where they hire newer young coaches to help with the age division in the locker room
The final option is eric Benemy coming in to be the be the bad cop he was in Washington
 

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Interesting since everyone is praising Khan for his 1st draft and nothing changed in the decision making process. Andy sets up the board with input from Tomlin and then Khan uses the board to decide who to draft and if trading up or down is an option
Andy had more input with FA.

Everyone is praising him?


Shit is just getting started with Khan being Tomlin’s fall guy.
 

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Everyone is praising him?


Shit is just getting started with Khan being Tomlin’s fall guy.
That's flat out absurd.
 
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You forgot rule #1, it’s never Tomlin’s fault.

Duh.
This just shows faulk has no idea what’s going on the actual team
The defense fell apart when they lost their starting mlb and they are now on safety numbers 7 and 6
A decent Qb flips the browns pats and jacksonville game
 

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Tbf, yeah, Tomlin does deserve praise for the role he played this offseason.

That doesn't change that he's overseen what looks like an epic collapse in performance and morale, or that he looks incapable of being part of rebuilding the offence.



Also Faulk's statement is just automatically insane and I think he's the only person to make it. The exception that proves the rule.
 

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Kind of like Tomlin.
Tomlin knows he also knows there’s nothing he can do this season to fix it. Vegas picked them to finish last this was supposed to be the first season were tomlin had a losing season. The defense needed another draft and round of free agency to rebuild a depth.
 

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Tomlin knows he also knows there’s nothing he can do this season to fix it. Vegas picked them to finish last this was supposed to be the first season were tomlin had a losing season. The defense needed another draft and round of free agency to rebuild a depth.

Tomlin created this mess with his backwards, cowardly philosophy on offense and his refusal to fire Canada last January.

Now he’s letting the inmates run the asylum and the shit with Pickens not being benched is mind boggling.

I’ve told you again and again Roth was his band-aid.

Rip that off and he’s being exposed for who he is.

Dude is the Dan Bylsma of the NFL.

Only difference is Lemieux and Burkle were finally smart enough to fire DB’s ass and save the legacy of Malkin and Crosby.

AR2 f***ed up hard and wasted the back half of a HOF QB career and now he’s doing it with arguably the greatest Steeler defensive player of all time.
 

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I think there's a case to be made that the drafting has been a big part of their demise. How much of that is on the GM and how much of it is on Tomlin, none of us really know, but blaming it on Khan like Faulk did is hilarious and just shows that he doesn't know what he's talking about when it comes to the Steelers.
 

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Tomlin created this mess with his backwards, cowardly philosophy on offense and his refusal to fire Canada last January.

Now he’s letting the inmates run the asylum and the shit with Pickens not being benched is mind boggling.

I’ve told you again and again Roth was his band-aid.

Rip that off and he’s being exposed for who he is.

Dude is the Dan Bylsma of the NFL.

Only difference is Lemieux and Burkle were finally smart enough to fire DB’s ass and save the legacy of Malkin and Crosby.

AR2 f***ed up hard and wasted the back half of a HOF QB career and now he’s doing it with arguably the greatest Steeler defensive player of all time.
Ben played a part In wasting his career again with Faulkner said he had to dumb down the offense for MT in order for him to play faster and let him play like the gunslinger he wants to be theres no oc that can fix the qb room
An oc can implement tighter splits more motions line up the wr in the slot more. Flex out Muth but if you’re qb can’t process none of that matters
Eric benemy has been convincing Howell that being decisive is more important than making the correct read he has been drilling the wr to line up properly to run their routes 2 yards further they hated him in training camp
 

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Tomlin knows he also knows there’s nothing he can do this season to fix it. Vegas picked them to finish last this was supposed to be the first season were tomlin had a losing season. The defense needed another draft and round of free agency to rebuild a depth.

I mean, either Tomlin agreed and should have put more emphasis on having a rebuilding type season where they get fundamentals down and give young guys a lot of time and sell at the deadline if they can -

Or he doesn't agree and believed they should have done better. Which is the general tenor of his public comments.
 

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It hasn’t fallen out. He has been here 2 more years than Cowher. They last time they had a losing season they drafted 7.
There is multiple paths 1 is a trade then ART Can reset with an unknown defensive guy on the cheap. The other is an extension where everyone else on the staff is let go where they hire newer young coaches to help with the age division in the locker room
The final option is eric Benemy coming in to be the be the bad cop he was in Washington
Actually you said the following in the last thread:

No if they miss the playoffs with the remaining schedule he deserves the criticism the talk of trading him like Payton will be real. If he is given a real budget and doesn’t get the best young passing game coordinator or one of the consensus up and coming oc of the future guys he will deserve criticism

But yes, you've now backtracked completely. Carrying Tomlin's water makes it hard to be consistent.
 

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Actually you said the following in the last thread:

No if they miss the playoffs with the remaining schedule he deserves the criticism the talk of trading him like Payton will be real. If he is given a real budget and doesn’t get the best young passing game coordinator or one of the consensus up and coming oc of the future guys he will deserve criticism

But yes, you've now backtracked completely. Carrying Tomlin's water makes it hard to be consistent.
How am i back tracking the talk of trading him legally can’t even start until the regluar season is over. I never said it would be 100 percent guaranteed he gets traded. It would be up to tomlin and art to agree to a trade. Art my decide he wants tomlik to stick around but hire s brand new staff
 
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