GDT: The Pittsburgher Thread - Here we go!

[Honour Over Glory]

Oh it doesn't matter if it's Ben or me taking snaps because Harris is going to have a billion snaps by the bye week alone.

People want to focus on carries/catches to determine a RB's workload. But just being out on the field running a route or pass blocking is taxing on a RB's body.

But we don't live in our fears and all that...

Ben making snaps is a massive root to the problem. This team caters to him and not the system they are attempting to play. So maybe it might work. But we'll never know because Ben does what he does and they make the changes for him.

Mason, whatever blokes here think about him, gives them a Qb to throw in there that will play their system and will do what they're wanting out of that offense and at the very least either succeed or show them that it needs major work.

Turdlisberger and his ego won't allow it and he has a playbook of more excuses than Mike has catch phrases.

How do you cater to a declining Qb that refuses to accept he should have retired and f***ed off into obscurity.

 

[Buddy Bizarre]

Ben making snaps is a massive root to the problem. This team caters to him and not the system they are attempting to play. So maybe it might work. But we'll never know because Ben does what he does and they make the changes for him.

Mason, whatever blokes here think about him, gives them a Qb to throw in there that will play their system and will do what they're wanting out of that offense and at the very least either succeed or show them that it needs major work.

Turdlisberger and his ego won't allow it and he has a playbook of more excuses than Mike has catch phrases.

How do you cater to a declining Qb that refuses to accept he should have retired and f***ed off into obscurity.

I said in an earlier post that Ben's ego was good and bad, but mostly on the plus side.

Now he just looks terrible and on the bottom run of a starting NFL QB. Being talented will buy you a ton of runway. When that talent is eaten up by Father Time, well it's just time to go.
Really can't believe this is the last of Ben R...I don't want to see this version anymore

 

[Smoke]

Just finished the SNF game... man... what is it with teams scoring with 1 minute left on the clock only being ahead by a point or two?
SF deserves every little bit of that painful loss. YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE LEFT AND A FIRST DOWN FROM THE 2 if the guy just caught it and went down... nope, had to push for that TD.... good job.

I blame the coaches for playing soft coverage. Every team does it. Maybe one day they will realize that losing by a TD or a field goal are no different.

 

[mynameisnick4]

This could be one of the most down bad years in Pittsburgh pro sports in quite a while unless the Pens work miracles with their injury/goaltending situations.

 

[Pengwins]

fire Tomlin

 

[DanielPlainview]

The thing about motivational speaking, charismatic types is they're usually charlatans, and people will defend a charlatan they've bought into before admitting the truth simply because they don't want to look foolish

 

[LOGiK]

Totally disagree with you. You are advocating for a player to not try and score a TD to tie the game and potentially put his team ahead with the extra point with a minute left in the game? That makes no sense. If he goes down at the two and then his team can't score the TD then what?

His defense needs to step up, plain and simple.

So you're virtually saying screw clock management?
If the guy went down so they could run a play or two to wipe another 40 seconds off the clock having 3 time outs remaining on your side from inside the 5 yard and first down... he'd be praised for being aware of the clock, score and situation.
Crossing the goal line with no mind at all to the clock and the score and give the ball back to the guys who marched down the field on them all night - to trust their defense?
You'd trust the defense... I'd trust the offense to get 3 yards in 1 minute on 4 downs with all your time outs. You control the game.

 

[LOGiK]

I blame the coaches for playing soft coverage. Every team does it. Maybe one day they will realize that losing by a TD or a field goal are no different.

Well that too. Doubly ****ed up... too much time on the clock and too soft on coverage = earning that loss

 

[DanielPlainview]

You score when you can in the NFL.

 

[TooManyHumans]

You score when you can in the NFL.

Anyone who actually expected the Steelers to score right away there is insane.

 

[The Old Master]

Darnold ended up in a good coaching situation. Rhule could be the next great. If he’d come to Pittsburgh, he’d have been left to rot by Tomlin.

Ben is possibly the worst starting QB in the league. If this is all he can do, cut him. Let Rudolph play the rest of the year

letting rudy play behind this line would not be the best thing for rudy. imo

 

[DanielPlainview]

I'd rather play the younger player. There's nothing to gain from trotting Ben out there when he's a shell of himself

 

[ImporterExporter]

The thing about motivational speaking, charismatic types is they're usually charlatans, and people will defend a charlatan they've bought into before admitting the truth simply because they don't want to look foolish

You describe ALL politicians at EVERY level of government very well here.

It's sickening actually. The sheer volume of humanity that can be so easily duped by crooks and blowhards.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I said in an earlier post that Ben's ego was good and bad, but mostly on the plus side.

Now he just looks terrible and on the bottom run of a starting NFL QB. Being talented will buy you a ton of runway. When that talent is eaten up by Father Time, well it's just time to go.
Really can't believe this is the last of Ben R...I don't want to see this version anymore

Ben's ego has been comical for a long time. His self importance of how he feels he does things and the arrogance of it never sat well with me. Now all he does is make excuses instead of being upfront about how he's made some very awful plays.

Last year he wasn't shy taking jabs at the drops. Now he's come up with every excuse in the book to make sure it's known the problems aren't him - it's penalties, a pec issue and whatever else he can conjure up and exploit.

What a gloriously shitty leader.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

This could be one of the most down bad years in Pittsburgh pro sports in quite a while unless the Pens work miracles with their injury/goaltending situations.

Lol yeah our goaltending is why the Pens have been a joke in the playoffs for 4 years.

Hahahahahhahahaha some blind f***s repeat the same dumb shit and don't even realize it. First if was MAF costing Bylsma games and then it was realized Bylsma just didn't have it anymore. Sullivan is in the same boat and blokes here can't even f***ing see what they've already seen.

They just use the Ben Roethlisberger method of making excuses rather than the root of the issue. In this case - Tomlin and Ben need to f*** off.

In the Pens sake - the coach has no clue how to succeed in the playoffs anymore and is severely out coached 4yrs straight in the playoffs.

The Pirates - literally just need new ownership.

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

It's sickening actually. The sheer volume of humanity that can be so easily duped by crooks and blowhards.

How many fans and media have been fooled by Tomlin when it’s obvious for all to see?

People don’t like admitting someone has duped them, so they will dig in, even the owner of a billion dollar franchise.

 

[Smoke]

I wonder if he can play CB for them.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

Reviewing the first 3 games, its so painful to watch open targets but Ben forcing throws to receiver that is heavily covered just because he wants to land a penalty on PI and get his 1st down that way. His tunnel vision has always pissed me off immensely but now he’s only doing that. Young O-Line, new offense, whatever, some of those routine throws should be fairly simple to make for a veteran QB, but it isn’t with Ben. Not in the slightest.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

I wonder if he can play CB for them.

A repeated substance abuser for the last 8 years is probably a bad bet on all fronts. And that’s just the 8yrs he’s been caught.

 

[lastcupever75]

My personal favorite was a couple years ago. The Trib reporter asked Coach Clown about Anaylitics and since he didn't know how to answer the question he got real defensive and angry at the reporter.

WE DONT DEAL WITH THAT, WE PLAY TO WIN!

RAH RAH motivator really working these days huh? .

personally, I gave up on him after a tomlin special to I think an awful bears team. in the presser mikey threw out a new word he just learned so the yinzer media can gasp at how smart he is.
"i'm not going to get into the whole minutia of the game"
Heard the same thing after a preseason game this year.
WTH

my all time favorite though is what he said when comparing the steelers to the patriots years ago.
"they're intellectual, we're emotional"
literally telling everyone his downfall in coaching

 

[JTG]

I can’t stomach the though of a ‘hamster wheel’ QB like they would get via trade or FA.

I saw that fish before and it’s agonizing.

Tomlin is poison though, so he would likely f*** up a new franchise type guy they draft.

Huge catch 22, but the wise decision is starting a new era free of Roth and Tomlin.

Unfortunately, AR2 is incompetent and can’t make the tough calls - he’s the Mike Tomlin of owners.

I wouldn't do just any QB via trade. It would have to be a Matt Stafford type. I don't see a single viable QB available in free agency. The thing with drafting a QB under Tomlin is he never developed one. He showed up and Ben was here. I'm almost more into giving Haskins or Rudolph the reigns and just surrounding them with the very best team we can, that way if the team fails, we know what piece was responsible for it.

I think this team picks in the top 10. Hopefully we can snag Neal or Linderbaum - but even with Linderbaum, he's undersized so though I really like him as a prospect, I'm not sure that is the direction I'd like to see us go. I'm not giving up on Green, but I am not seeing this super strong guy. He's getting his ass handed to him, and in turn, Dotson and Turner are getting their asses handed to them. We have the worst starting tackles in the league, though I think Moore has showed some promise, but he is even getting blown up consistently. The offensive line of Ohio State may be better than the Steelers right now.

Yeah, Ben is done. There's nothing left there but nostalgia.

Najee is going to take a beating this year. Legit worried he's going to be run into the ground, or Ben is going get him killed on one of his 18 check downs each week. If for no other reason, they need to bench Ben to save Najee.

This will be a losing season. I can't see how it doesn't end up that way.

Najee isn't going to want to play football after this year with the beating he is about to take. He's either going to get the piss beat out of him, or he's going to get seriously injured. It's tremendously difficult to evaluate him, because it looks like he has no acceleration or or elusiveness to his game, but he's also getting first contact behind the line of scrimmage consistently.

We had some years with a bad offensive line...this right now I think is the worst by a fair margin.

 

[Pens1566]

Najee isn't going to want to play football after this year with the beating he is about to take. He's either going to get the piss beat out of him, or he's going to get seriously injured. It's tremendously difficult to evaluate him, because it looks like he has no acceleration or or elusiveness to his game, but he's also getting first contact behind the line of scrimmage consistently.

We had some years with a bad offensive line...this right now I think is the worst by a fair margin.

Yeah, I think he's in serious danger of getting hurt. Between the O line being swiss cheese, and Ben hanging one out there to him and he gets laid out, I feel bad for him. If teams can key on him because the passing game is a non-factor, then he's going to get destroyed most weeks.

Having said that, I think he'll be ok if we can take some of the heat off him. Longer term. He's not a burner, but he's not slow either. Reminds me of Peterson a bit in that he's fine running through you if need be. And he can play every down. I'm not holding those last 2 drops against him yesterday. He'd already hauled in 14 at that point.

Hell with it, play Haskins. At least there will be some fireworks. Either way ...

 

[Mr Jiggyfly]

I wouldn't do just any QB via trade. It would have to be a Matt Stafford type. I don't see a single viable QB available in free agency. The thing with drafting a QB under Tomlin is he never developed one. He showed up and Ben was here. I'm almost more into giving Haskins or Rudolph the reigns and just surrounding them with the very best team we can, that way if the team fails, we know what piece was responsible for it.

I think this team picks in the top 10. Hopefully we can snag Neal or Linderbaum - but even with Linderbaum, he's undersized so though I really like him as a prospect, I'm not sure that is the direction I'd like to see us go. I'm not giving up on Green, but I am not seeing this super strong guy. He's getting his ass handed to him, and in turn, Dotson and Turner are getting their asses handed to them. We have the worst starting tackles in the league, though I think Moore has showed some promise, but he is even getting blown up consistently.



Najee isn't going to want to play football after this year with the beating he is about to take. He's either going to get the piss beat out of him, or he's going to get seriously injured. It's tremendously difficult to evaluate him, because it looks like he has no acceleration or or elusiveness to his game, but he's also getting first contact behind the line of scrimmage consistently.

We had some years with a bad offensive line...this right now I think is the worst by a fair margin.

So many new faces on a line was always going to be trouble - that’s why I feel we will see them stabilize by mid season and be a decent group.

Then we can judge each individual player much better.

 

[Night Shift]

personally, I gave up on him after a tomlin special to I think an awful bears team. in the presser mikey threw out a new word he just learned so the yinzer media can gasp at how smart he is.
"i'm not going to get into the whole minutia of the game"
Heard the same thing after a preseason game this year.
WTH

my all time favorite though is what he said when comparing the steelers to the patriots years ago.
"they're intellectual, we're emotional"
literally telling everyone his downfall in coaching

Board members (rather the Tomlin defenders) here balked when i said he benefited from Arians and Lebeau. They did all the work, he brought nothing from day 1

 

[Al Smith]

I wonder if he can play CB for them.

I wonder if he can last for more than 5 games before being suspended. I’m pulling for the kid but I’m a bit skeptical.