he's a player you keep until you have a replacement. and even then, you think long and hard about it. imo
OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: 5 and 2 Justin who? Hand the Fields to Wilson
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JTG
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Right, but I think you're missing the point of the post - he was a problem in the locker room a majority of the time he was here and Tomlin did nothing about it. He then forced the Steelers to renegotiate his deal, then after that happened he forced his way to the Raiders where the team couldn't get anything of value for him and caused a massive dead cap penalty. All the fans got was "we want volunteers not hostages."
Brown and Bell totally clowned the Steelers at the end of their tenures and had they not been provided to much leash and any control was had over that locker room, they would have won anything in the Triple B era. The team won nothing and and both players f***ed the team on the way out. You're cool with 1000 yard seasons...I would have liked to see playoff wins.
There is no evidence that either was a problem in the locker room aside from the way Brown melted down at the very end.
The thing about Tomlin's man management reputation and skills isn't that he reforms everyone though. Sometime instead it's about being getting a person to be merely a problem instead of completely unworkable with. Getting limited explosions rather than constant explosions. Guys like Brown being a problem in the locker room through that period - if they were - doesn't mean Tomlin was doing nothing or ignoring them. It is completely possible that Tomlin was doing the best possible job of getting the least possible explosions from a volcano - which is his reputation, right?
Which I believe to have a bunch of truth to it. I don't think all the players and NFL guys raving about it are full of shit.
And yeah, maybe part of how he did things was by ignoring or downplaying some shit that other coaches wouldn't. But that isn't necessarily a bad way of doing his job and I'm going to guess more coaches take his approach now than they did when Tomlin started.
Which I believe to have a bunch of truth to it. I don't think all the players and NFL guys raving about it are full of shit.
And yeah, maybe part of how he did things was by ignoring or downplaying some shit that other coaches wouldn't. But that isn't necessarily a bad way of doing his job and I'm going to guess more coaches take his approach now than they did when Tomlin started.
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Locker room videos being released on live stream? Him actively Twitter beefing with JuJu while he was still a member of the team? These are just off the top of my head.
And? A bunch of shit that doesnt matter? Except to fans that want it to?
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There’s at least as strong an argument that Tomlin kept AB in line and got the most possible out of AB. And Bell didn’t melt down. He had a contract dispute.
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Yeah I think what separates Tomlin from a lot of other coaches is that he actually genuinely seems to care about his players on a human level. I remember him doing a podcast with Ryan Clark and Fred Taylor and Taylor talked about some of his former coaches treating him like a commodity (Jack Del Rio - who ironically just got arrested for a DUI and has a humiliating video out right now). Obviously there's more to it than just being a nice guy, but I think he does have good relationship and motivational skills in part because he cares and listens to his players. Knowing what buttons to push to best manage different individuals.
Early in AB's career, I know Tomlin even talked about his family looking after AB's son on road trips and having him over for Easter etc... family type atmosphere. Seems like their relationship changed due to life/fame/money/success but it's hard to argue with the individual results. Almost 15k all purpose yards in 9 years is absurd. Only thing lacking was a Lombardi.
Some of the stories were crazy though. AB fighting Ike Taylor and 75 year old Dick Lebeau the day after he got his $40 mil
Early in AB's career, I know Tomlin even talked about his family looking after AB's son on road trips and having him over for Easter etc... family type atmosphere. Seems like their relationship changed due to life/fame/money/success but it's hard to argue with the individual results. Almost 15k all purpose yards in 9 years is absurd. Only thing lacking was a Lombardi.
Some of the stories were crazy though. AB fighting Ike Taylor and 75 year old Dick Lebeau the day after he got his $40 mil
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Does anyone know if Roman Wilson is available to play this year. He absolutely was a wrecking ball at Michigan. And at his age (23) I don’t see why he couldn’t step in and make a decent impact. Especially with our depleted WR room. TIA.
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Teams can only activate 8 players to return from IR during the regular season. You can activate two more if you make the playoffs. I believe with Corey Trice and Mon Adams activated we have used all our 8 for the regular season, but not 100% sure on that.
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Judging from this article they still have 2, as Trice and Adams were 5 and 6 rather than 7 and 8.
The Steelers Are Running Out Of IR 'To Return' Slots
Like any team, the Pittsburgh Steelers have felt the weight of attrition that an NFL season brings come Thanksgiving. For their sake, hopefully the Steelers can remain healthy the rest of the way. Otherwise, the team may have to begin making tough decisions on who to bring back and who to leave...
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He's been eligible for a while too.
My guess is you won't see him unless the WR room ships a bunch of injuries and even if that happens, he'll be more break glass than featured.
