OT: The Pittsburgher Thread: 5 and 2 Justin who? Hand the Fields to Wilson

[The Old Master]

Huh? We got 7 1000+ years from Brown and he was arguably the best WR in the NFL for half a decade or more. Sign me up for that from Pickens even if it eventually ends poorly.

he's a player you keep until you have a replacement. and even then, you think long and hard about it. imo

 

[JTG]

Huh? We got 7 1000+ years from Brown and he was arguably the best WR in the NFL for half a decade or more. Sign me up for that from Pickens even if it eventually ends poorly.

Right, but I think you're missing the point of the post - he was a problem in the locker room a majority of the time he was here and Tomlin did nothing about it. He then forced the Steelers to renegotiate his deal, then after that happened he forced his way to the Raiders where the team couldn't get anything of value for him and caused a massive dead cap penalty. All the fans got was "we want volunteers not hostages."

Brown and Bell totally clowned the Steelers at the end of their tenures and had they not been provided to much leash and any control was had over that locker room, they would have won anything in the Triple B era. The team won nothing and and both players f***ed the team on the way out. You're cool with 1000 yard seasons...I would have liked to see playoff wins.

 

[WheresRamziAbid]

Right, but I think you're missing the point of the post - he was a problem in the locker room a majority of the time he was here and Tomlin did nothing about it. He then forced the Steelers to renegotiate his deal, then after that happened he forced his way to the Raiders where the team couldn't get anything of value for him and caused a massive dead cap penalty. All the fans got was "we want volunteers not hostages."

Brown and Bell totally clowned the Steelers at the end of their tenures and had they not been provided to much leash and any control was had over that locker room, they would have won anything in the Triple B era. The team won nothing and and both players f***ed the team on the way out. You're cool with 1000 yard seasons...I would have liked to see playoff wins.

There is no evidence that either was a problem in the locker room aside from the way Brown melted down at the very end.

 

[Peat]

The thing about Tomlin's man management reputation and skills isn't that he reforms everyone though. Sometime instead it's about being getting a person to be merely a problem instead of completely unworkable with. Getting limited explosions rather than constant explosions. Guys like Brown being a problem in the locker room through that period - if they were - doesn't mean Tomlin was doing nothing or ignoring them. It is completely possible that Tomlin was doing the best possible job of getting the least possible explosions from a volcano - which is his reputation, right?

Which I believe to have a bunch of truth to it. I don't think all the players and NFL guys raving about it are full of shit.

And yeah, maybe part of how he did things was by ignoring or downplaying some shit that other coaches wouldn't. But that isn't necessarily a bad way of doing his job and I'm going to guess more coaches take his approach now than they did when Tomlin started.

 

[JTG]

There is no evidence that either was a problem in the locker room aside from the way Brown melted down at the very end.

Locker room videos being released on live stream? Him actively Twitter beefing with JuJu while he was still a member of the team? These are just off the top of my head.