The Peter DeBoer thread

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I don't want Boucher as head coach. His defense in Tampa was hemmed in their end a lot. You would be seeing a lot of the same things offensively. Wanted him as an assistant, but not as a head coach.
 

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Pete is the longest tenured coach this franchise has had since Lemaire's first stint. I think this is a fan base who is used to seeing a new coach every 100 games losing their minds. I think a lot of you are just so used to Lou firing coaches that you look for reasons to happen.

People are just so used to having a new coach "honeymoon" that having continuity at the position is just so foreign to them. People want change for the sake of change. You all want coaching continuity, yet we lose a few games in October and you want the coach to be fired?

Having continuity means riding out the tough phases. Not that 4 games is even a phase.
 

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ugh but GOD, i absolutely ABHOR the idea of firing a coach again, after we thought we'd have consistency for once.

i dont think incorporating JL means we HAVE to fire PDB. realistically, maybe...but as long as we're in fantasy land, JL joins our coaching staff in place of an assistant coach or Stevens. may not happen, but that is the quick fix i would use, right now.
 

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I don't want Boucher as head coach. His defense in Tampa was hemmed in their end a lot. You would be seeing a lot of the same things offensively. Wanted him as an assistant, but not as a head coach.

Guy Boucher would be a ideal candidate and I wanted him before we even got DeBoer.

He's a hockey mind and will adapt his system based on the roster he has. He won't force a round peg into a square circle plus he's a PP wizard, wich is another aspect of our game that needs a massive shot in the arm.

The list is pretty thin in terms of available HC's, and to me, Guy Boucher is the best available option.
 

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Pete is the longest tenured coach this franchise has had since Lemaire's first stint. I think this is a fan base who is used to seeing a new coach every 100 games losing their minds. I think a lot of you are just so used to Lou firing coaches that you look for reasons to happen.

People are just so used to having a new coach "honeymoon" that having continuity at the position is just so foreign to them. People want change for the sake of change. You all want coaching continuity, yet we lose a few games in October and you want the coach to be fired?

Having continuity means riding out the tough phases. Not that 4 games is even a phase.

as has to be re-hashed every time someone gives us the 'chill out' statement, nobody WANTS to fire pete, and certainly nobody wants to fire him because we havent won a game 4 games in. i feel like deboer is forcing the 'fired' hand by making extremely questionable lineup decisions. for the millionth time- system= fair/good. player management= awful
 

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5-10-5 may not do it, but 4-11-5 would.

Lou works in 20 game blocks so that would be my estimate at an actionable record.

We are 0-1-3 as of now. If we go 4-10-2 then I would think that Pete would get fired, but again I think Scott Stevens becomes the HC not Lemaire. If Lemaire wanted to coach he won't have retired again with the prospects of coaching a really good 2011-12 team.

I still am going to wait until we play 10 games to get a better feel for this team. So far we look sloppy, but I am expecting that with the addition of a lot of new players.

I can't wait until we actually start winning games, have a 13-3-3 record at the 20 game mark, and people still want Pete fired because Volch is playing instead of Larsson/Fayne.
 

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Pete is the longest tenured coach this franchise has had since Lemaire's first stint. I think this is a fan base who is used to seeing a new coach every 100 games losing their minds. I think a lot of you are just so used to Lou firing coaches that you look for reasons to happen.

People are just so used to having a new coach "honeymoon" that having continuity at the position is just so foreign to them. People want change for the sake of change. You all want coaching continuity, yet we lose a few games in October and you want the coach to be fired?

Having continuity means riding out the tough phases. Not that 4 games is even a phase.

If we were icing the best possible lineup game after game, I'd fully agree with you but that isn't the case at all.
 

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If we were icing the best possible lineup game after game, I'd fully agree with you but that isn't the case at all.

So you think Pete wants to get fired? I would think he would cares more about icing the best possible lineup than anyone.
 

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So you think Pete wants to get fired? I would think he would cares more about icing the best possible lineup than anyone.

One would think so but scratching Fayne over #28 or Harrold would lead me to say that icing the best lineup isn't a priority of his.
 

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We are 0-1-3 as of now. If we go 4-10-2 then I would think that Pete would get fired, but again I think Scott Stevens becomes the HC not Lemaire. If Lemaire wanted to coach he won't have retired again with the prospects of coaching a really good 2011-12 team.

the prospect of that scares me to no end. i don't like the idea of exploring the unknown
 

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Maybe he just doesn't think Fayne is better than #28 or #10?

That's absurd and if that's the case, then I want him replaced before our game against the Flames.

So what you're saying is that he played Fayne threw our entire playoff run while leaving Harrold in the pressbox and 18 months later, Fayne is now our #7?

Yeah, I ain't buying it.
 

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That's absurd and if that's the case, then I want him replaced before our game against the Flames.

So what you're saying is that he played Fayne threw our entire playoff run while leaving Harrold in the pressbox and 18 months later, Fayne is now our #7?

Yeah, I ain't buying it.

So what do we think then?

If Deboer has beef with Fayne, and the plan is to not play him, givin that he is a UFA after the year, should we not have waived him instead of Urbom?
 

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doesnt matter. Fayne is younger. therefore Fayne must suck

You understand that an even younger Fayne (24) had an ATOI of 20:11 playing 82 games with Pete as the coach, right?

I think Fayne is our 2nd best defenseman, but obviously Pete didn't think the same. Personally looking at TOI from last night I think Larsson goes back in for Harrold. This boards hates Volch to know end, but atleast when he is on the ice he actually gets shots on net. He only played 13:22 with 16 shifts and had 2 shots. The was the same total amount of shots from Salvador(1), Greene, Fayne, Harrold(1), and Zidlicky combine.

Last night as a team our biggest problem was putting out Gionta, Olesz, and Bernier against the Sedin line. Torts kept on doing it all night and eventually Pete wised up and benched that line.

Hoping JJ plays for Gionta on Friday.
 

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tycobb

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That's absurd and if that's the case, then I want him replaced before our game against the Flames.

So what you're saying is that he played Fayne threw our entire playoff run while leaving Harrold in the pressbox and 18 months later, Fayne is now our #7?

Yeah, I ain't buying it.

I think the unfortunate truth is that our #1 defenseman and #7 defenseman aren't really that far apart in overall playing ability.
 

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If we were icing the best possible lineup game after game, I'd fully agree with you but that isn't the case at all.

And if we were losing with the best possible lineup, would you still want him fired?

Jacob Josefson and Adam Larsson was not the difference between winning last night and losing. Volchenkov blows but we're committed to him until Lou does something about it.
 

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I think the unfortunate truth is that our #1 defenseman and #7 defenseman aren't really that far apart in overall playing ability.

I kind of agree... but I'd say our #1 and #6 d-men aren't really that far apart. There's one guy who's on a island by his own in terms of "talent".

I'll let you guess who I'm talking about.
 
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