The Official Regret Thread

I regret not following the team more seriously when I was a youngin'. After the Cup run though, it doesn't sound like I missed much overall. I started following again heavily when they were pretty bad, so I'm not really a band-wagoner at least.
 
I'm not gullible it's been talked about a lot here, not on April Fool's. It sounded implausible, but it was reported so many times I thought it was true.

By the time the Blueshirts visited Tampa on Thanksgiving of 2008, the talks had become serious. Barrie was asking to choose two or three from a wish list that featured Michael Del Zotto, Evgeny Grachev, Ryan Callahan, Brandon Dubinsky and Dan Girardi.

The deal, according to Sather, was struck. The Rangers would be getting Stamkos, who has scored 46 goals thus far this season, tied for second in the NHL with Alex Ovechkin and just one behind Sidney Crosby in the race for the Rocket Richard Trophy.

Oh, no, they wouldn't.

"How close did we come?" Sather asked rhetorically, repeating the question we posed to him as the Rangers practiced in Tampa on Thursday. "We shook hands on it, that's how close.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/rangers/shaken_not_stirred_T6N63otVVq92kFkpEFVBMI

Brooks put out the story on April 4th, 2010 so maybe that's where the April Fools stuff came from. I have no idea if it is or not.
 
I remember reading the same article in 2010. I vaguely remember reading somewhere else that Derek Stepan was involved in a potential trade for Stamkos. Perhaps I'm mistaken.

Either way, this thread is depressing. Shoulda, coulda, woulda things that are beyond our power.

That 2003 draft was killer though.
 
My biggest regret is Hugh Jessiman. I remember being at the draft party that year and hearing it be announced, my friend and I looked at each other and were like "what the fffff". We all know how that turned out.

Don't regret Gomez, because we got Mac Truck. There's a positive lol.
 
The Rangers got screwed in the 1967 Expansion draft because they had Eddie G. in net and had to let a young Cesare Maniago go and he was picked first by the North Stars.
In 1992 the Rangers had a similiar situation with VBK and Richter but they were able to trade VBK to Vancouver for the draft rights to Doug Lidster before he was picked first by the Panthers.
 
Failing to sign Chara and instead getting stuck with Redden. Cup right there. (I'm aware we didn't have much of a shot regardless we failed to sign him and ended up with Redden how could that not be regrettable)

Taking McI intsead of Tarasenko.

Signing Drury instead of keeping Jagr. Drafting Jessiman, Brendl, Lundmark instead of anyone else.

Not taking Zetterberg, Dasyuk, etc when they went massively late in the draft (but thats maybe a little unrealistic still it's regrettable)
 
The MDZ for Stamkos trade that fell through.

This thread has the potential to drive me to drink.

I'm almost positive that this was confirmed to be false. Some joke or something.

As for regrets in my book:

Letting Jagr walk
Gomez
Redden
Trading Korpo
 
What was the deal for Stamkos supposed to be? Supposedly the deal was agreed to...but not with the right people in the TB organization.
 
That DelZ for Stamkos thing was never, ever, ever gonna happen. Thats such a silly thing to even contemplate, how could anyone even think for a second that was true. Think.

There are way too many things as a Rnager fan using hindsight, I'd be here for days typing.

But speaking of recent ones, the 2003 draft for so many reasons, and not signing Chara. I thought after all the years of throwing money around we'd land the big guy. I was shocked that Sather didn't go a few million more for a game changer. Then he goes a year later and signs a super declining Redden.

And yeah, dealing Korpikoski for peanuts, horrible.
 
People keep suggesting that the Rangers passed on Giroux for Sanguinetti, as if the Rangers had considered Giroux. But, from what I remember, (which included some of our HF sources at the time, i.e., and Edge and SOTI), the Rangers were set to take Berglund, until Sanguinetti fell to them. Giroux was not going to be the pick, so I don't see it as having been an option.

How about becoming obsessed with Montoya's performance, and passing up the chance to trade up to get Andrew Ladd. And, then trading up later, only to take Korpikoski, and not Zajac. Or missing out on David Booth, (a name that was being discussed on these boards at the time), and taking Darin Olver and Dane Byers instead. Or passing on Nashville's offer of two 2nd round picks for Petr Nedved, only to do a favor for Sather's old franchise in Edmonton, by accepting a lesser package?

The three that always bother are the three deals with the Blues that fell through -

1992 - Adam Oates was on the block, and Smith was offered Oates and Jeff Brown, and another lesser piece for Nemchinov and Patrick, and another lesser piece. Smith went to Roger Nielsen, who said don't make the deal. Think having Oates as the 2nd line center might have made a difference in the playoffs that year?

1995 - Smith and Keenan, (GM/coach at the time) had a deal in place for Shanahan to become a Ranger, for the price of Kovalev and Matteau. But, Smith needed ownership approval during a time when the Rangers and Knicks were being sold. Keenan got impatient, and made the deal with Hartford, for Chris Pronger instead.

2001 - Sather was set to send Mike Richter to the Blues for a package of prospects, which I believe included both Barrett Jackman and Michal Handzus. Handzus was going to be spun with Lundmark and Theo Fleury to Phoenix for KT. The deal was just about final, but, Ron Low decided to play Richter against Chicago, (I believe), and that was the game where Richter broke his skull. Needless to say, the deal was off.
 
Jas, good post.

I know for a fact you are right about Berglund being our pick if it wasn't Bobby Sangs who dropped unexpectedly. Giroux was not even being thought of as a solid 1st rounder, he was thought of as a late 1st early 2nd. Smallish players from the Q had few takers in 2006.

I wonder if that Oates trade was gonna happen? Boston's offer was alot better, they did afterall land him. And Oates was a first line Center, I doubt he would have been happy playing 2nd to Messier. Oates has a strong personality to say the least, did not play 2nd line until he was around 34 yrs old. He was a monster in the 1992 playoffs though.

That Kovalev for Shanny trade is definitely true and definitely sad we didn't pull it together in time. Would have changed alot of the latter half of the 90's into 2000.

There were 'talks' of Richter to the Blues. That injury killed any kind of deals that were being talked about.

And yeah, not so sure I believed Prucha for Seabrook, sounds like it was made up or at least embellished in Rangerland.
 
People keep suggesting that the Rangers passed on Giroux for Sanguinetti, as if the Rangers had considered Giroux. But, from what I remember, (which included some of our HF sources at the time, i.e., and Edge and SOTI), the Rangers were set to take Berglund, until Sanguinetti fell to them. Giroux was not going to be the pick, so I don't see it as having been an option.

How about becoming obsessed with Montoya's performance, and passing up the chance to trade up to get Andrew Ladd. And, then trading up later, only to take Korpikoski, and not Zajac. Or missing out on David Booth, (a name that was being discussed on these boards at the time), and taking Darin Olver and Dane Byers instead. Or passing on Nashville's offer of two 2nd round picks for Petr Nedved, only to do a favor for Sather's old franchise in Edmonton, by accepting a lesser package?

The three that always bother are the three deals with the Blues that fell through -

1992 - Adam Oates was on the block, and Smith was offered Oates and Jeff Brown, and another lesser piece for Nemchinov and Patrick, and another lesser piece. Smith went to Roger Nielsen, who said don't make the deal. Think having Oates as the 2nd line center might have made a difference in the playoffs that year?

1995 - Smith and Keenan, (GM/coach at the time) had a deal in place for Shanahan to become a Ranger, for the price of Kovalev and Matteau. But, Smith needed ownership approval during a time when the Rangers and Knicks were being sold. Keenan got impatient, and made the deal with Hartford, for Chris Pronger instead.

2001 - Sather was set to send Mike Richter to the Blues for a package of prospects, which I believe included both Barrett Jackman and Michal Handzus. Handzus was going to be spun with Lundmark and Theo Fleury to Phoenix for KT. The deal was just about final, but, Ron Low decided to play Richter against Chicago, (I believe), and that was the game where Richter broke his skull. Needless to say, the deal was off.

Is there any proof that Ladd, Zajac, or Booth were on the Rangers' radar? Because if not then you're using 2 different standards for these guys and for Girioux.
 
Booth and Zajac were definitely up for discussion. One of our scouts liked Zajac, we went with the Euro scout who urged Korpikoski.

Ladd was a guy we wanted to move up for but had no assets to move up.
 
Striking out on Jagr 3x. Failing to repair burnt bridges for the most dominant player in franchise history.
 
Booth and Zajac were definitely up for discussion. One of our scouts liked Zajac, we went with the Euro scout who urged Korpikoski.

Ladd was a guy we wanted to move up for but had no assets to move up.

Ok, that answers my question. Can't fault the Montoya pick though. He was the top goalie I believe and Hank was a huge question mark as was every other goalie in the system.
 
Biggest regret is the purge of the cat, followed up shortly with the Middleton for Hodge trade
 
BTW, speaking of Ladd at the time I would have been really pissed if we got him. I have a bias against taking players high that are lauded for their intangibles and/or size. I always assume the reason those things are talked up are for lack of skill and in the top 5 or top 10 I want a skilled guy. Though, Toews was a guy that was talked up for intangibles I believe and he has a lot of skill.
 
How much time ya got?

Trading Jeep
Trading Weight
Trading Zubov
Trading Kovalev (the first time)
Bringing Messier back
The (non) development of Brendl, Lundmark & Malhotra
Drafting Jessiman
Letting Zherdev go
Signing Drury
Signing Redden
Cherepanov's death
Not drafting Tarasenko
(Not counting any trades that fell through since who ever knows how close they REALLY were?)

That's off the top of my head - I know there are others.
 
I don't know how much I regret it personally, since I was 100% against it even at the time, but I certainly regret that the Rangers hired Glen Sather. That one should cover plenty of what is being discussed.
 
I don't know how much I regret it personally, since I was 100% against it even at the time, but I certainly regret that the Rangers hired Glen Sather. That one should cover plenty of what is being discussed.

He's alot like the guys he brought in - had success a billion years ago and was looking for his pay day. Got paid for what he did, not for what he'd do for us. Irony.
 

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