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Tribute The Official "Fire Tortorella" Thread
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renberg
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A quote from today's Inky column on the Flyers:
"Tortorella said that he misspoke when he said Ersson was an option against the Panthers. “We have a plan for Sam, and we’re going to follow through with it, so that’s probably my fault. … The way I look at it is that he’s been practicing full with us, that’s when I consider it an option. He’s still on IR, him and Jamie are still on IR, but there is an absolute plan for what we’re going to do with Sam. What that is you’ll find out as we go through it.”
This doesn't sound like chatter from the mouth of a person who is in control of things the way that he likes too make it seem. He probably wanted to use Ersson against the Panther but someone jerked that off of the table. Could be the medical team or Briere/Jones. Whatever. Tortorella is not in on the plan with usage of the goalies or for that matter other players as well.
This is how the end of the line starts with Tortorella. It went this way with NYR and CBJ. He starts to go above his pay grade and gets cut off. He won't tolerate that since he is a control freak. Eventually he'll force a them or me decision. Look for more friction between him and the rest of the organization in the future.
"Tortorella said that he misspoke when he said Ersson was an option against the Panthers. “We have a plan for Sam, and we’re going to follow through with it, so that’s probably my fault. … The way I look at it is that he’s been practicing full with us, that’s when I consider it an option. He’s still on IR, him and Jamie are still on IR, but there is an absolute plan for what we’re going to do with Sam. What that is you’ll find out as we go through it.”
This doesn't sound like chatter from the mouth of a person who is in control of things the way that he likes too make it seem. He probably wanted to use Ersson against the Panther but someone jerked that off of the table. Could be the medical team or Briere/Jones. Whatever. Tortorella is not in on the plan with usage of the goalies or for that matter other players as well.
This is how the end of the line starts with Tortorella. It went this way with NYR and CBJ. He starts to go above his pay grade and gets cut off. He won't tolerate that since he is a control freak. Eventually he'll force a them or me decision. Look for more friction between him and the rest of the organization in the future.
deadhead
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Think you're reading way too much into this.
Ersson is a medical staff decision, probably got an optimistic assessment, then a correction a couple days later.
They don't interfere with Torts game lineup decisions, where Briere comes in is decisions who to call up and send down, b/c that impacts the Cap, waiver issues, etc.
I'm sure with someone like Drysdale they discuss short-term v long-term, Zamula is better right now but they have to find out whether they can fix Drysdale or have to move on, which means you have to play him at some point.
Ersson is a medical staff decision, probably got an optimistic assessment, then a correction a couple days later.
They don't interfere with Torts game lineup decisions, where Briere comes in is decisions who to call up and send down, b/c that impacts the Cap, waiver issues, etc.
I'm sure with someone like Drysdale they discuss short-term v long-term, Zamula is better right now but they have to find out whether they can fix Drysdale or have to move on, which means you have to play him at some point.
freakydallas13
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Didn't we get confirmation last season that Briere told Torts to play Frost more?
renberg
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I don't think so. Tortorella obviously wanted to play Ersson. If there is, "there is an absolute plan for what we’re going to do with Sam. What that is you’ll find out as we go through it.”, then Tortorella knows what that is. Tortorella was going to jump the plan because he wanted a possible win.
This "plan" that we'll find out as we go through it, is a bunch of nonsense. If the plan was to be able to play Ersson Thursday, then he would have played. Since he didn't, it wasn't the plan. (Notice that Kolosov, not Ersson, is starting today in Boston) Ersson is not/ was not ready to play Thursday night. Torts is up to his usual stuff in trying to go over his head in determining what goes on with "his" club.
Beef Invictus
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This guy has no idea what's going on.
ponder719
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For all Torts goes in for the eye test, he never uses that test to fix anything, so you’re good.
deadhead
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Of course he wants to play Ersson after seeing the other two goalies in action.
But activating players off injury isn't about strategy, it's about a "rehab plan" to ensure he's 100% and won't re-injure himself. Nothing "sinister" here.
The entire hockey world is marveling at Michkov.
Torts chose to take him out of the lineup. Twice.
Torts chose to take him out of the lineup. Twice.
Curufinwe
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About time Torts went after someone who wasn’t a player on his own team
JABEE
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Michkov had two goals in 3 minutes of ice time in the 1st period and Torts made him disappear. He only got one shift in OT despite his benching of Konecny and the lack of firepower on the team. He is letting his anger cost the team games more than a stupid penalty.
Players have the excuse of actually being on the ice getting their head knocked around. John Tortorella has no excuse for his antics.
Players have the excuse of actually being on the ice getting their head knocked around. John Tortorella has no excuse for his antics.
BernieParent
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The unspoken part of his preseason quote is that he would let the kids be creative and take risks ... and then sit them for the rest of the game.
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Curufinwe
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After 33 games they are 22nd in the NHL, with an ugly -20 goal difference
In 197 games under under Torts they are 27th, and the only teams with worse offenses are SJ, Anaheim and Chicago.
In 197 games under under Torts they are 27th, and the only teams with worse offenses are SJ, Anaheim and Chicago.
BillDineen
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They are +100 in culture though, so yes
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