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Who says they aren’t? lol
There have been constant rumours that we are talking to multiple players
They are but i think the combo of Ohtani still being out there and Yamamoto on the pitching end of things are causing a huge logjam.
We've heard absolutely nothing about guys like Chapman and barely anything about Bellinger outside of a alleged report of Seattle being "interested"
9/10 times Bellinger has a deal signed by the winter meetings. Not this time and there's a fairly obvious reason.
Because this money is bookmarked specifically for Ohtani. It's just as much a business deal as an on-field move. No other player would bring in anything comparable revenue-wise. Let's say the rumored offer of 10 years 600m is real? If they don't get Ohtani I bet at best only 40 million of that 60 million per year would go back into the team.
You could still do a lot with 40 million, to be fair.
That gets you your pick of one of the big fish still left. Presumably Bellinger because i don't want anything to do with Chapman after his 2023 and i can't see a guy like JD Martinez or Soler being a fit given them largely being a DH at this stage.
That gets you your pick of one of the big fish still left. Presumably Bellinger because i don't want anything to do with Chapman after his 2023 and i can't see a guy like JD Martinez or Soler being a fit given them largely being a DH at this stage.
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It goes back to the nerd from the dodgers that said it was done. I'm sure he had legit sources, so I'm sure the smoke is there. That wasn't done for the fun of it
Fair, but they aren't touching the money until they know they are out on Ohtani. He's priority 1, 2, 3 and 4. Once his decision is made they'll make moves accordingly.
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Gotta love American sports guys “Why would Ohtani go to Canada??? It’s cold up there!… yeah dude it’s like 30-35 degrees celcius here in the summer. Our balls melt into the seats. Utter stupidity
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Winter sucks and summers ain’t great, but that’s not why ‘American Sports Guy’ doesn’t want to live in Canada.
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Goes back even further. IN the early morning hours betting lines starting to shift towards Toronto. Then a guy who was supposed to have some credibility in Morosi sent out his report then later on betting lines all closed which generally is a sign, then the Dodgers writer posted and it took off with Morosi continuing to bag the drum.
Then a pin popped our balloon.
It's pretty much the same weather as Chicago and no one would bat an eye if he signed with the Cubs.
Yeah, it sounds like he's a legitimate reporter and he didn't seem to be basing it on the rumours/speculation that were swirling around.
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Both players are awful, so it was a good move by the Angels. Wonder what they have up their sleeve
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Hate to break a lot of hearts here so I'll just say there's some speculation that may militate against us getting Ohtani.
Report: Dodgers Ask Pitcher To Give Up Shohei Ohtani's Number
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The answer is nothing. No big money quick fixes for Arte, so Angels fans get to watch Anthony Rendon loaf through the rest of that deal and then pray they start to attempt to build a farm system/development pipeline.
Between letting arguably the most gifted player we've ever seen walk for nothing and your other franchise star at least mulling the idea of asking out (he won't, but the fact Trout even considered it is a huge shift compared to years past) are signs that you need to completely change how you do things.
Hate to break a lot of hearts here so I'll just say there's some speculation that may militate against us getting Ohtani.
Report: Dodgers Ask Pitcher To Give Up Shohei Ohtani's Number
Check out the latest news, rumors and information on the Baseball at RealGM.com.baseball.realgm.com
"This is such a big deal i'm sure no one would ask Kelly if they weren't sure but at the same time i'm not sure Shohei cares"
Boob with another much ado about nothing article.
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The meltdown from the casual/media side of things will be historic. Sid Sexerio went on Blair and Barker and was basically a step away from the ledge already. (Is that really any different for Sid though?)
From the baseball head/nerd standpoint i don't think it will be as poignant. Kevin Barker made a good point earlier. He essentially said while the gut punch of coming this far and losing would absolutely suck, it's not like the Jays aren't a decent team without him. Rotation is still rock solid and you can easily look elsewhere for upgrades.
Essentially he said Bellinger isn't it in terms of star/name power, but that doesn't mean he can't make the team better. Which i thought was a pretty solid/grounded take.
TL;DR - the people who bitch about Shohei going elsewhere would be the same types bitching about every little thing in the last couple years.
From the baseball head/nerd standpoint i don't think it will be as poignant. Kevin Barker made a good point earlier. He essentially said while the gut punch of coming this far and losing would absolutely suck, it's not like the Jays aren't a decent team without him. Rotation is still rock solid and you can easily look elsewhere for upgrades.
Essentially he said Bellinger isn't it in terms of star/name power, but that doesn't mean he can't make the team better. Which i thought was a pretty solid/grounded take.
TL;DR - the people who bitch about Shohei going elsewhere would be the same types bitching about every little thing in the last couple years.
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