HF Habs: The official 2023-2024 tank thread

[Runner77]

 

[26Mats]

So far I'm happy and no matters what happen, in my mind, we are lucky to talk about a bottom 7 finish at this point, because with Kirby Dach healthy, I don't think Habs finish in that position.

And it seems like a good draft to finish bottom 7. There seem to be a lot of good prospects...

Has me thinking, hopefully the Jets pick is as close to 20 as possible. Then can we move up from there to get a player like Iginla?

 

[WeThreeKings]

First time since I've started that we got a point we weren't expected to get. Let's hope we can lose to Calgary and get that point back, but I've also undershot most of the point totals, we have room to get 6ish points above what is projected and not meaningfully hurt us.

Opponents	Expected Result	Actual Result
NSH; CAR; TOR	W; L; L	W; L; L
CBJ; BOS; CGY	W; L; OTL	W; OTL;
EDM; VAN	L; L
SEA; COL; PHI; CAR	OTL; L; OTL; L
FLA; TB; TOR	L; OTL; L
NYR; PHI; NYI; OTT	L; OTL; OTL; W
DET; DET	W; L
	Expected Points	Actual Points
	4 pts	5 pts

 

[Habs]

all these loser points and Iginla will fall into our lap I guess

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

CBJ ARI and OTT can all pass us , keep hope. Don't back down now. Show resolve.

 

[Trabdy2]

Primeau against Calgary, I hope.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

all these loser points and Iginla will fall into our lap I guess

Watch them reach for Liam Greentree so this board will crash.

 

[Habs]

Watch them reach for Liam Greentree so this board will crash.

Didn't I just hear that the Habs scouts confirmed they don't see Catton in the top 10 ? lol
I bet they go for another dman hahahahahah

 

[KevSkillz4]

Didn't I just hear that the Habs scouts confirmed they don't see Catton in the top 10 ? lol
I bet they go for another dman hahahahahah

It's 5 NHL scouts. So maybe not Habs.

 

[teamfirst]

Montreal has a tough road trip coming up. Tankers delight!

Ya, nof***inway we get more than 2 points against Cgy-Edm-Van-Sea-Col.

Wait, where did i read that before

 

[habsfan891]

Didn't I just hear that the Habs scouts confirmed they don't see Catton in the top 10 ? lol
I bet they go for another dman hahahahahah

Please no

 

[KevSkillz4]

Next 5 games will be very crucial for the high pick. That will likely to decide if Habs are still in good position to finish bottom 4-5. Or more likely bottom 6-7-8.

 

[Habs]

It's 5 NHL scouts. So maybe not Habs.

Thought he said hab scouts hope you are correct.

 

[WeThreeKings]

It's 5 NHL scouts. So maybe not Habs.

It's a nothing burger - Pronman also said he polled scouts and not many had Iginla in their top 10, either.

Basically don't trust much scouting discourse until we get to the combine, it's mainly disinformation or misleading info until then.

That's not to say Grant can't be right, he could be, but like is he talking to head scouts? Cause most scouts are area scouts, so if I ask an OHL scout if Catton is in his top 10, he'd probably say no, and if he had a list that had all players in it, you know he'd have seen less of Catton than a WHL area scout.

There's too much variance in that stuff to care.

And if that is true, then I think we should be encouraged because if Catton goes outside the top 10 and Benson went at 13 last year, then we can reasonably assume next year that type of forward will be available for us to pick.

 

[JeffreyLFC]

It's a nothing burger - Pronman also said he polled scouts and not many had Iginla in their top 10, either.

Basically don't trust much scouting discourse until we get to the combine, it's mainly disinformation or misleading info until then.

That's not to say Grant can't be right, he could be, but like is he talking to head scouts? Cause most scouts are area scouts, so if I ask an OHL scout if Catton is in his top 10, he'd probably say no, and if he had a list that had all players in it, you know he'd have seen less of Catton than a WHL area scout.

There's too much variance in that stuff to care.

And if that is true, then I think we should be encouraged because if Catton goes outside the top 10 and Benson went at 13 last year, then we can reasonably assume next year that type of forward will be available for us to pick.

Just like Caufield in 2019 and Jarvis in 2020, NHL never learn....

 

[Runner77]

Ya, nof***inway we get more than 2 points against Cgy-Edm-Van-Sea-Col.

Wait, where did i read that before

Famous last words.

 

[Ezpz]

Ya, nof***inway we get more than 2 points against Cgy-Edm-Van-Sea-Col.

Wait, where did i read that before

TBH I would only expect Colorado to slaughter us. Edmonton are Vancouver soft as baby shit. Seattle and Calgary aren't any better than us.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

TBH I would only expect Colorado to slaughter us. Edmonton are Vancouver soft as baby shit. Seattle and Calgary aren't any better than us.

Demko is injured right now too. Montreal also tends to play well on the road. We have more points on the road than Tampa Bay.

Edmonton, Vancouver & Colorado all have stellar home records, while Seattle & Calgary are essentially .500.

 

[Adam Michaels]

Desired results for tonight:

- MTL regulation loss vs. CGY: CGY moves 11 pts ahead

- ARI win vs. NJD: ARI win + MTL reg. loss = ARI ties MTL in pts. MTL with 1 game in hand. NJD with a loser pt move 9 pts ahead.
- OTT win vs. NYI: OTT win + MTL reg. loss = OTT moves 1 pt behind with 2 games in hand.
- CBJ win vs. SJS: CBJ win + MTL reg. loss = CBJ moves 4 pts behind.
- BUF win vs. DET: BUF win + MTL reg. loss = BUF moves 10 pts ahead. MTL with a game in hand.
- PIT win vs. NYR: PIT win + MTL reg. loss = PIT moves 8 pts ahead with 1 game in hand.
- SEA win vs. NSH: SEA win + MTL reg. loss = SEA moves 9 pts ahead with 1 game in hand.

*ARI passing MTL, take 10. ARI with another opportunity to pass MTL. If they win and MTL lose in regulation, they will tie MTL in pts, but have the tie-breaker on RWs, in which case, MTL ends in 27th place (Bottom-6). While OTT & CBJ with opportunities get tighter behind MTL.*

 

[Rapala]

Damn 4 early games with implications. If it goes poorly people will be wanting a loss which sucks.

 

[vokiel]

It's okay if they slip to 8-9, I hope they swing for the fences and pick Iginla.

 

[Rapala]

TBH I would only expect Colorado to slaughter us. Edmonton are Vancouver soft as baby shit. Seattle and Calgary aren't any better than us.

We generally match up well against Edmonton but I get the sense Vancouver is a different animal at home this season.
They are clearly not playing soft.

 

[Skip Bayless]

It's okay if they slip to 8-9, I hope they swing for the fences and pick Iginla.

Picking Iginla is swinging for the fences?

He seems like one of the safest prospects.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Ottawa, Pittsburgh & Arizona are all playing afternoon games.

Ottawa @ NYI, 12:30 pm. Sorry, but I don't see Ottawa beating the Islanders. Isles are one of the best teams in the league since All Star Break, while Senators are crap.

NYR @ Pittsburgh, 3 pm. See comment above. A strong team vs crap.

NJD @ Arizona, 5 pm. The teams have identical records over the last 10 games. I say, 50-50 that Arizona wins. Coyotes with slight advantage since they're playing at home.

SJS @ CBJ, 7 pm. A team Columbus should be able to beat. I don't have faith that Montreal can catch CBJ, but strange things sometimes happen.

Montreal @ Calgary: a winnable game for Montreal. Calgary is a wholly average team. Markstrom will have to steal this one.

 

[Rapala]

It's okay if they slip to 8-9, I hope they swing for the fences and pick Iginla.

Actually I haven't seen a list yet that doesn't have some very intriguing options on it.
I have no problem playing to win because we won't in general.
It's all about scoring as many goals as possible keeping out as many pucks as possible and seeing our kids thrive.

We are at the mercy of the lottery gods but we do have the proper "Karma"going in.