The NHL embracing sports gambling was a major mistake

[tarheelhockey]

100%, it cuts so much deeper than it being just one person's problem, which can be said about addiction in general.

Imagine responding with a laugh emoji to this post. What the ****

 

[2CHAINZ]

Uhm okay

I got my warning so I am going to remove myself from here. Take care.

Imagine responding with a laugh emoji to this post. What the ****

Ya that one pissed me off

 

[Bear of Bad News]

Don't worry about him any more.

 

[12ozPapa]

If we had to worry about everyone, we’d need 90% of ads gone.

No car ads, it may convince a person to buy a car they can’t afford and fall into debt.

No soda commericials.

No alcohol commercials.

No sport commercials, people can get hurt playing, you know?

Etc

 

[JPT]

I Am going to say that the league is a business and the gambling is good for them.if you had a problem you should have say something when the Supreme Court made it unilegal.

Were there magic words someone could have said to prevent the US Supreme Court from opening the gambling floodgates? I've studied quite a bit of Con Law, but I've never been introduced to SCOTUS voodoo.

Edit: damn. Guess I will never know the answer to this.

 

[Golden_Jet]

If we had to worry about everyone, we’d need 90% of ads gone.

No car ads, it may convince a person to buy a car they can’t afford and fall into debt.

No soda commericials.

No alcohol commercials.

No sport commercials, people can get hurt playing, you know?

Etc

Wrong, we just need them gone during live play, no issue for a tv timeout commercial.

Don't worry about him any more.

Hopefully, even though user said he was using a burner.

 

[JPT]

If we had to worry about everyone, we’d need 90% of ads gone.

No car ads, it may convince a person to buy a car they can’t afford and fall into debt.

No soda commericials.

No alcohol commercials.

No sport commercials, people can get hurt playing, you know?

Etc

I realize resorting to fallacy makes it easier to appear to make a point, but that goes out the window when people are able to identify there is a fallacy.

Addressing the inundation of gambling ads in hockey broadcasts actually does not require anyone to think we have to "worry about everyone." It doesn't mean no soda, alcohol, car, or sports ads. It just means addressing the one thing.

In fact, it's even simpler than that. We are merely *discussing* the thing, not implementing a change.

 

[2CHAINZ]

Were there magic words someone could have said to prevent the US Supreme Court from opening the gambling floodgates? I've studied quite a bit of Con Law, but I've never been introduced to SCOTUS voodoo.

Edit: damn. Guess I will never know the answer to this.

Isn't the legalization of gambling done state-by-state? I didn't know that was a supreme court thing

If we had to worry about everyone, we’d need 90% of ads gone.

No car ads, it may convince a person to buy a car they can’t afford and fall into debt.

No soda commericials.

No alcohol commercials.

No sport commercials, people can get hurt playing, you know?

Etc

Why is this the response of people? People are discussing gambling advertisements because that is what this thread topic is about. Should soda, fast food and garbage like that be banned from advertising? I don't know, but it should be banned from advertising those things to children during things children watch in my opinion.

 

[Nothingbutglass]

Isn't the legalization of gambling done state-by-state? I didn't know that was a supreme court thing

Yes, but it was supreme court ruling in 2018 that lifted federal ban on sports betting. Each state can now decide on their own.

 

[JPT]

Isn't the legalization of gambling done state-by-state? I didn't know that was a supreme court thing


Why is this the response of people? People are discussing gambling advertisements because that is what this thread topic is about. Should soda, fast food and garbage like that be banned from advertising? I don't know, but it should be banned from advertising those things to children during things children watch in my opinion.

The Court decided in a way that leaves it to the states now. Previously, there was a federal statute that superceded state laws and effectively banned sports betting in almost all states.

 

[12ozPapa]

My point is this: you get rid of gambling ads, then where is the line drawn?

 

[JPT]

My point is this: you get rid of gambling ads, then where is the line drawn?

Why can't the line just be drawn at "only show gambling ads during TV timeouts and intermission commercial breaks"? Just because there is a moral argument against gambling ads in general doesn't mean that the solution to the problem brought up in the OP has to be a ban on gambling ads similar to the ban on tobacco ads.

 

[2CHAINZ]

My point is this: you get rid of gambling ads, then where is the line drawn?

Ok, if they get rid of gambling ads, they should get rid of ads for all bad things. What's the problem with that? I am not advocating for this; I just don't understand the problem. Would your life be destroyed if they stopped allowing ads for alcohol, gambling, soda, and whatever else?

The Court decided in a way that leaves it to the states now. Previously, there was a federal statute that superceded state laws and effectively banned sports betting in almost all states.

Thank you; I didn't want to google it all.

 

[crowi]

I hope everyone who is unhappy with this has cancelled their paid plans to watch NHL. Otherwise you're just crying in the wind while still paying.

 

[2CHAINZ]

I hope everyone who is unhappy with this has cancelled their paid plans to watch NHL. Otherwise you're just crying in the wind while still paying.

LOL. People can't have a discussion on how to make things better; if you have an open discussion, you are "crying". You ever wonder why things never get done in this world? It's because so many people have this mindset. Just accept things, or you are a crybaby.

 

[Svechhammer]

My point is this: you get rid of gambling ads, then where is the line drawn?

I mean the line was already drawn on tobacco ads, and eventually we'll follow suit with the EU and ban alcohol ads as well (which is why you only see non-alcoholic beer ads in things like EPL and F1). There's not a ban on using them, just advertising them and pressuring people to take part.

Before long, we are absolutely going to need the same treatment for gambling ads as well.

 

[crowi]

LOL. People can't have a discussion on how to make things better; if you have an open discussion, you are "crying". You ever wonder why things never get done in this world? It's because so many people have this mindset. Just accept things, or you are a crybaby.

Perhaps you took "crying" really to heart there? I just meant, if you don't do anything about it, then complaining about gambling on some random messageboard doesn't do anything.

 

[JPT]

Perhaps you took "crying" really to heart there? I just meant, if you don't do anything about it, then complaining about gambling on some random messageboard doesn't do anything.

You won't be able to find a single person who thinks their participation in this thread will lead to anything more than notifications on this site.

 

[2CHAINZ]

Perhaps you took "crying" really to heart there? I just meant, if you don't do anything about it, then complaining about gambling on some random messageboard doesn't do anything.

Bro I 100% knew your response before you even typed it. Yes, the direct attack on my feelings, lol. You are all the same.

Why is it that people discussing something equals complaining? Also, why do you even open this thread up? You just need to come in here and tell everyone they are a baby?

 

[crowi]

OK done. Now what? Do I have your permission to continue discussing this topic?

I didn't realize I asked you to?

My comment wasn't meant to stifle discussion. Just a reminder that nothing happens unless you vote with your wallet. Apparently you have, so good on you there champ.

Bro I 100% knew your response before you even typed it. Yes, the direct attack on my feelings, lol. You are all the same.

Why is it that people discussing something equals complaining? Also, why do you even open this thread up? You just need to come in here and tell everyone they are a baby?

Okay, discuss away, I didn't realize my comment would be so controversial. It was never my intent to stifle discussion in any way either.

 

[JPT]

I didn't realize I asked you to?

My comment wasn't meant to stifle discussion. Just a reminder that nothing happens unless you vote with your wallet. Apparently you have, so good on you there champ.


Okay, discuss away, I didn't realize my comment would be so controversial. It was never my intent to stifle discussion in any way either.

You literally said "everyone" but sorry for upsetting you with my reply. I'll try to be more careful.

 

[Lshap]

Perhaps you took "crying" really to heart there? I just meant, if you don't do anything about it, then complaining about gambling on some random messageboard doesn't do anything.

Arguing over hockey doesn't do anything either, but here we are.

 

[crowi]

You literally said "everyone" but sorry for upsetting you with my reply. I'll try to be more careful.

Yes, I'm just so upset right now. I just have to cut my arms and legs off so I can't type something so mean ever again.

 

[2CHAINZ]

Okay, discuss away, I didn't realize my comment would be so controversial. It was never my intent to stifle discussion in any way either.

LOL I swear it's like there is some play book of responses. "I didn't realize my comment would be so controversial." Nothing you said was controversial; you contributed absolutely nothing to the conversation.

 

[JPT]

It's also, at best, the fourth time someone has come into the discussion with the same attempted gotcha of "i hope everyone complaining stops giving money to the NHL"