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Yeah I'll say it.

When I look at this team, I no longer see an up and coming squad or a team of the future: I see a team that already might be the 2nd best team in the east. The Panthers are the class of the league much less the east, but right behind them in the conference are Montreal.

First of all, I am on record as saying previously on these boards that the Canadiens might be the best situated team in the league. In terms of the players they have, the players they have on the way, the contracts they have, the age of their core players, and the diversity and balance of their core.

The Canadiens are ready to fight for the cup as early as this season.

- They have a legit #1 center with two-way play and 90+ point potential in Nick Suzuki.

- They have a player heading into his sophmore year that can already be argued as the 3rd best offensive defenseman in the league in Hutson, a player who might be a on HOF trajectory.

- They have a game breaking superstar in the making in Demidov

- 40+ goal potential sniper and pure goal scorer in Caufield

- Young former #1 overall power foward in the making in Slafkovsky

- A complete wildcard in Laine who I think can still go off for 35-40 goals one of these years but should at least score a healthy amount of goals the PP if nothing else. (Or traded for cap flexibility).

This team has a deep and well rounded forward group, a very good back end, and goaltending that is solid enough even if unspectacular. They have many depth players on the roster with room to grow and untapped upside like Dach, Guehle, Newhook etc.

Montreal has a prospect pool that, even without Demidov, many regard as a top 5 pool in the league. Players like Reinbacher, Hage, Beck etc have the ability to step into the lineup this season and make an impact.

Lastly, while many teams in the east got worse this off season (my Leafs for example), or are generally on the decline, Montreal got better with two excellent additions in Noah Dobson and Zach Bolduc, two legit adds without giving up a single roster player. They also will improve from within with guys like Demidov and Hutson still having sky-is-the-limit potential to grow into this season.

The Habs were already a playoff team last year and now basically add Demidov, Dobson, and Bolduc + Hutson not being a rookie.

I don't see a single reason why the Montreal Canadiens shouldn't be viewed as cup contenders already or why they shouldn't be viewed as the 2nd best team in the east. Tell me why I'm wrong?

(I'm a Leafs fan as mentioned so a) I take no pleasure in feeling this way and b) don't blame Habs fans for over-hyping their team).
 
Yeah I'll say it.

When I look at this team, I no longer see an up and coming squad or a team of the future: I see a team that already might be the 2nd best team in the east. The Panthers are the class of the league much less the east, but right behind them in the conference are Montreal.

First of all, I am on record as saying previously on these boards that the Canadiens might be the best situated team in the league. In terms of the players they have, the players they have on the way, the contracts they have, the age of their core players, and the diversity and balance of their core.

The Canadiens are ready to fight for the cup as early as this season.

- They have a legit #1 center with two-way play and 90+ point potential in Nick Suzuki.

- They have a player heading into his sophmore year that can already be argued as the 3rd best offensive defenseman in the league and a guy in Hutson, a player who might be on HOF trajectory.

- They have a game breaking superstar in the making in Demidov

- 40+ goal potential sniper and pure goal scorer in Caufield

- Young former #1 overall power foward in the making in Slafkovsky

- A complete wildcard in Laine who I think can still go off for 35-40 goals one of these years but should at least score a healthy amount of goals the PP if nothing else. (Or traded for cap flexibility).

This team has a deep and well rounded forward group, a very good back end, and goaltending that is solid enough even if unspectacular. They have many depth players on the roster with room to grow and untapped upside like Dach, Guehle, Newhook etc.

Montreal has a prospect pool that, even without Demidov, many regard as a top 5 pool in the league. Players like Reinbacher, Hage, Beck etc have the ability to step into the lineup this season and make an impact.

Lastly, while many teams in the east got worse this off season (my Leafs for example), or are generally on the decline, Montreal got better with two excellent additions in Noah Dobson and Zach Bolduc, two legit adds without giving up a single roster player. They also will improve from within with guys like Demidov and Hutson still having sky-is-the-limit potential to grow into this season.

The Habs were already a playoff team last year and now basically add Demidov, Dobson, and Bolduc + Hutson not being a rookie.

I don't see a single reason why the Montreal Canadiens shouldn't be viewed as cup contenders already or why they shouldn't be viewed as the 2nd best team in the east. Tell me why I'm wrong?

(I'm a Leafs fan as mentioned so a) I take no pleasure in feeling this way and b) don't blame Habs fans for over-hyping their team).
They don’t have a 2C
And the goaltending is suspect.
Their pk is fresh when it was a strength before.

Not a contender bud
 
Way too soon to call the Montreal Canadiens Cup contenders. They could win the Cup if they are healthy, if all the young players continue to improve, if Demidov is the runaway winner of the Calder, if Laine has a big contract year, and if the goaltending is solid. They could also miss the playoffs. Maybe we can table this discussion until March 2026?
 
Absolutely not cup contenders. Still the youngest team in the league; significantly improved their defence and the goaltending is stable enough.
But up front outside of their young stars and wildcards in Laine and Dach, they are still lacking size and C depth.
They should be able to get into a WC spot, imo, if they continue their upward trajectory, but they're missing another very solid / elite piece up front at C and a well defined, 4th line that can pound teams.
That being said. players like Michael Hage and Florian Xhekaj (1st AHL forward in like 25 years with 20+ goals and 175 pims - as a rookie) and of course, David Reinbacher @ RD are all arriving soon
 
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Future 74 goal scorer Patrik Laine would be a 14 million dollar player in Vegas. Accounting for state taxes that means he's an 18 million dollar player for Montreal.

Meaning he's a bargain at like 12 million of discount. And bargain contracts are the only way to win the cup in the cap world.

So no the Habs aren't A contender.

The Habs are THE contender.
 
Won't even make the playoffs.

They should be able to get into a WC spot, imo, if they continue their upward trajectory, but they're missing another very solid / elite piece up front at C and a well
See, I think these are crazy takes.

I understand others not thinking they are cup contenders. I didn't make this thread as a jinx or to be provocative, I genuinely in my heart of hearts look at this team and look at the east and think this may be the 2nd best team behind the Panthers, but I get disagreeing.

But to still think they are not a playoff team or at best a wild card??

They were a wild card last year and might honestly be the most improved team in the league this offseason. What other team, playoff or not last year, improved more than to add Demidov (for all intents and purposes) Dobson, and Bolduc to their team that already was good enough for playoffs?
 
See, I think these are crazy takes.

I understand others not thinking they are cup contenders. I didn't make this thread as a jinx or to be provocative, I genuinely in my heart of hearts look at this team and look at the east and think this may be the 2nd best team behind the Panthers, but I get disagreeing.

But to still think they are not a playoff team or at best a wild card??

They were a wild card last year and might honestly be the most improved team in the league this offseason. What other team, playoff or not last year, improved more than to add Demidov (for all intents and purposes) Dobson, and Bolduc to their team that already was good enough for playoffs?
They’ll still add a centre as well
 
See, I think these are crazy takes.

I understand others not thinking they are cup contenders. I didn't make this thread as a jinx or to be provocative, I genuinely in my heart of hearts look at this team and look at the east and think this may be the 2nd best team behind the Panthers, but I get disagreeing.

But to still think they are not a playoff team or at best a wild card??

They were a wild card last year and might honestly be the most improved team in the league this offseason. What other team, playoff or not last year, improved more than to add Demidov (for all intents and purposes) Dobson, and Bolduc to their team that already was good enough for playoffs?
I'm a die-hard habs fan; just being realistic. Lots of teams underperformed for them to get in last season. If the second half habs show up, then yes , they're getting in.
But they're also still ahead of schedule and I think they're missing some pieces up front.
That being said, I agree: Dobson, Hutson and Guhle is a terrific top 3 D with Reinbacher on the way.
Montembeault is also underrated and maybe Dobes takes another step
 
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Uhhh not this year. Unless somehow Sid says he just wants to go to Montreal though no one should ever think that.

Even then, the team would still be generally too young to be a true contender. We’d likely get killed head-to-head against the Panthers.
 
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They don’t have a 2C
And the goaltending is suspect.
Their pk is fresh when it was a strength before.

Not a contender bud
Every team has some holes but getting a nice 2C should def be top priority.

Wonder if they can put a package together for a guy like Bo Horvat. Or you know, Sidney Crosby ;)

But something like Suzuki - Horvat - Dach - Evans down the middle would be real nice.
 
The question isn't if, it's how many?-Captain Hutson
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This upcoming season definitely not but the seasons after for sure the goal is to win a cup

I think we're very positioned to eventually be cup contenders with this core

Now if only mcdavid joins us next season then we will become a dynasty 😃
 
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