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He was also adamant Williams would get traded. I take his info with a grain of salt.

this whole last off season he was saying Kings would trade Dwight King. He also Mersch would make the team. He may have been right about Brown but hes been wrong more then right Interesting thou that fans are again quoting him as a source When i did last year other fans were dissing me calling him the crossing guard i believe funny how a few older fans leaving things can change.
 
I can't remember the last time Hoven was right about anything significant, so I doubt his claims.

If in fact Lombardi is removed as GM, Blake would be the obvious replacement. This isn't exactly a revelation.
 
Would be a bombshell if true, I know the Mayor isn't always the most reliable source but I agree with Bernstein that there's definitely something going on behind the scenes.

Regarding Voynov, I don't want to sound disrespectful saying I'd take him back on the team right away but if he's changed and willing to jump through all the hoops to play in LA again I'd be willing to give him another chance
 
Winning championships does not guarantee lifetime job security (unless you're Mike Scioscia)

A very valid argument could be made that the Kings have been the most poorly run team in the NHL since June 2014. At the very least bottom five.

Being married to the players is the thing that I think ultimately will be Dean's downfall.
 
I don't hesitate for a second to put Eklund over Hoven. Eklund has at least called numerous things even if he has had a plethora of things not happen. Hoven has predicted 0% correct or anything any remote Kings fan couldn't predict. Kopitar up for a new contract and team went to hell. So hard to predict Kopitar may get the C from Brown I was just completely shocked!

Getting Voynov back or as an asset would greatly help though.
 
He called the Kopitar captaincy change in December of 2015. If that was so obvious, how come no other reporter leaked this information?

He's gotten some things wrong but he's also gotten his share of stuff right as well, so if you're going to call him out when he's wrong, then credit him when he's right.

And LOL at the above post concerning Eklund.
 
Winning championships does not guarantee lifetime job security (unless you're Mike Scioscia)

A very valid argument could be made that the Kings have been the most poorly run team in the NHL since June 2014. At the very least bottom five.

Being married to the players is the thing that I think ultimately will be Dean's downfall.

Yeah, and it's unfortunate. Dean did a great job overhauling the culture, and upgrading the scouting and development programs. Dean could have recovered from the Richards mistake, but he compounded it instead. Every deal he has struck with a player since then seems to have gone bad.

It's scary, if true, that Luc Robitaille is having a greater voice in hockey operations going forward.
 
Hope we are not going to go thru the Vachon,DT years again I am not sure I have that many years left damn it, I love our players while they are playing but , remember right after 93 playoffs and how much of a high it was and the that summer set in and we traded MeCacharin (sp) because we couldn't afford to pay him and then we found out there was no money, no magic beans err, no coin collection and didn't make the playoffs for years (oh and traded the great one because we couldn't afford to surround him with decent players ) crap just crap
 
Yeah, and it's unfortunate. Dean did a great job overhauling the culture, and upgrading the scouting and development programs. Dean could have recovered from the Richards mistake, but he compounded it instead. Every deal he has struck with a player since then seems to have gone bad.

It's scary, if true, that Luc Robitaille is having a greater voice in hockey operations going forward.

Every deal he made over the summer turned out to be a bust, including bringing Sutter back. That interview DL gave during Kings weekly about how the team fell off the map the final 3 week of the season blowing a 12 point lead, and the playoff disaster should've been enough to not bring him back for 2 more years.

Maybe Luc is Uncle Phil's inside man and is taking cues from him .
 
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Every deal he made over the summer turned out to be a bust, including bringing Sutter back. That interview DL gave during Kings weekly about how the team fell off the map the final 3 week of the season blowing a 12 point lead, and the playoff disaster should've been enough to not bring him back for 2 more years.

Maybe Luc is Uncle Phil's inside man and is taking cues from him .

This would be very disconcerting. AEG ran the Kings the "Luc Way" for years and the team never progressed until Dean came along.
 
He called the Kopitar captaincy change in December of 2015. If that was so obvious, how come no other reporter leaked this information?

He's gotten some things wrong but he's also gotten his share of stuff right as well, so if you're going to call him out when he's wrong, then credit him when he's right.

And LOL at the above post concerning Eklund.

go check the forum last year and plenty of posters on here predicted when Kopitar signs if he does that he'd get the captaincy. Even more were claiming Brown needs to have the captaincy removed with Kopitar being the obvious candidate if not someone else barring he didn't re-sign. Guess we are all insiders too and should be praised! Also again he doesn't throw nearly the amount of @#$% onto a wall as Eklund does, but with that Eklund has a much greater number of things he got right if and only if for the fact he has been around longer. Both hit at a <10% prediction rate. Neither are good yet pretending one is superior to the other is plain blind and stupid they both clearly maybe once had a source say something and now pretend they have several and get inside information when they don't. I've personally posted a few things over the years that came to fruition yet I don't joke myself, make a blog, and pretend I have regular yet alone semi regular inside sources.

Who was awesome and I miss is Tonnelighost (sp?). Have to agree with the posts above that if ownership/management aren't on the same page and secretly going behind each other's backs.... Then we have some serious issues and concerns that likely will lead us back to the dark days of being a King's fan.
 
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That Muzzin and Kempe for Landeskog deal he mentioned doesn't sound too bad right now
 
go check the forum last year and plenty of posters on here predicted when Kopitar signs if he does that he'd get the captaincy. Even more were claiming Brown needs to have the captaincy removed with Kopitar being the obvious candidate if not someone else barring he didn't re-sign. Guess we are all insiders too and should be praised! Also again he doesn't throw nearly the amount of @#$% onto a wall as Eklund does, but with that Eklund has a much greater number of things he got right if and only if for the fact he has been around longer. Both hit at a <10% prediction rate. Neither are good yet pretending one is superior to the other is plain blind and stupid they both clearly maybe once had a source say something and now pretend they have several and get inside information when they don't. I've personally posted a few things over the years that came to fruition yet I don't joke myself, make a blog, and pretend I have regular yet alone semi regular inside sources.

Who was awesome and I miss is Tonnelighost (sp?). Have to agree with the posts above that if ownership/management aren't on the same page and secretly going behind each other's backs.... Then we have some serious issues and concerns that likely will lead us back to the dark days of being a King's fan.


what argument against a fan base am I to concede? Do you realize we are posting on a discussion forum?

Anyhow, Elliotte Friedman quoted The Mayor in one of his recent 30 Thoughts columns. Has he quoted Eklund? Or how about you since you proclaim to be have posted some things that came to fruition?
 
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Breaking Offseason News - Dwight King given 7 year/$14,000,000 contract to keep the AAV low. "He would have gotten more on the open market." - The pragmatists.
 
go check the forum last year and plenty of posters on here predicted when Kopitar signs if he does that he'd get the captaincy. Even more were claiming Brown needs to have the captaincy removed with Kopitar being the obvious candidate if not someone else barring he didn't re-sign. Guess we are all insiders too and should be praised! Also again he doesn't throw nearly the amount of @#$% onto a wall as Eklund does, but with that Eklund has a much greater number of things he got right if and only if for the fact he has been around longer. Both hit at a <10% prediction rate. Neither are good yet pretending one is superior to the other is plain blind and stupid they both clearly maybe once had a source say something and now pretend they have several and get inside information when they don't. I've personally posted a few things over the years that came to fruition yet I don't joke myself, make a blog, and pretend I have regular yet alone semi regular inside sources.

Who was awesome and I miss is Tonnelighost (sp?). Have to agree with the posts above that if ownership/management aren't on the same page and secretly going behind each other's backs.... Then we have some serious issues and concerns that likely will lead us back to the dark days of being a King's fan.

I think there are some things here that really aren't truthful. Mayor first mentioned that expect Kopitar to wear the C when next season started. He mentioned that in an article about Kopitar's contract negotiations. He never mentioned in that article that Brown would be traded or bought out. He made the claim that Kopitar would wear the C. He wrote that on Dec 1 2015. Meanwhile he said even on December 21st, that he doesn't expect Brown to be traded soon and that a good thought could be exposing him in this year's expansion draft. While it would be ideal for Brown to have been traded the Mayor never said "He's getting traded next week". Plus if Brown losing the C wasn't such a huge deal, there wouldn't have been a 19 page thread on it. We would have accepted it and moved on, but it wasn't the case. There is a reason that Elliotte Freidman is calling Mayor a good reporter and why Bob McKenzie mentioned him during TSN's trade coverage for tweeting about the Brayden McNabb deal and how it involved Hudson Fasching.

You would also mention that, John has never ever gotten anything right. I would ask about all of the jersey leaks that he has had over the past couple of years. While he didn't have the exact jersey, he was 95% on what the jersey would look like. He had the San Jose and LA Outdoor game jersey template before anyone else. Of course everyone will bring up the Justin Williams trade that never occurred. Whether you believe it or not, fine, but Williams was on the trading block that season and nothing materialized. It worked for the Kings and they won a Stanley Cup, but if they were so enamored by Justin Williams, he would still be a King today. The Kings were ready to cut ties with Williams whether you like it or not. Could the same happen with Dwight King this year, quite possibly. But hey let's just hang on to the Williams thing if that makes you feel better.

Also Tonelli's Ghost was full of ****. CNS can attest, if he comes back, he tried to meet this mysterious "scout" many times off the record and guess who never appeared and or showed up? It sure wasn't Andy. He faked his way through his discussions on this message board.
 
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Lewis deal 2.0. :shakehead

Yup, Lewis should absolutely have not been re-signed. The Kings have at least 6 players who do what Lewis does. The redundancy of the the type of player on the Kings roster is what is dragging the Kings down. That and Sutter rewarding ice time to those redundant players at critical moments of the game.
 
Damacles at least will back me up here--I still don't get all the complaining about the bottom six this year in particular. They're not the problem. It's all the big guys except Pearson, Carter, Doughty.
 
Damacles at least will back me up here--I still don't get all the complaining about the bottom six this year in particular. They're not the problem. It's all the big guys except Pearson, Carter, Doughty.

I think the issue is how much cap space is spent on stiffs for how little they bring to the table, and how redundant a lot of these guys are.

I also truly do miss having Jordan Nolan in the lineup. He certainly did more for the bottom six than any of the current guys in there.
 
Damacles at least will back me up here--I still don't get all the complaining about the bottom six this year in particular. They're not the problem. It's all the big guys except Pearson, Carter, Doughty.

There is too many of the same type of player. Keep some, get rid of the others. We don't need Clifford, AA, Nolan, and King all on the roster. We can plug them in with younger cheaper players.


edit: Forgot they sent down Purcell and Seto.
 
Damacles at least will back me up here--I still don't get all the complaining about the bottom six this year in particular. They're not the problem. It's all the big guys except Pearson, Carter, Doughty.

They really aren't,

They are actually producing this year. The Kings would be a top Three pick right now without their production.

Lewis is on pace for another career year. Brown/Dowd have been big down the lineup.

Dwight King is still a good ES producer.

It's the lack of new faces people are mad about, not the actual production.

No team in the NHL has a bottom six scoring at astronomical rates.
 
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There is too many of the same type of player. Keep some, get rid of the others. We don't need Clifford, AA, Nolan, and King all on the roster. We can plug them in with younger cheaper players.


edit: Forgot they sent down Purcell and Seto.

No one in the AHL is even ready for that.

Brodz is really the only guy ready.

Kempe is not an NHL player he needs more work.

Mesch is hurt till mid march or later.
 
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