Online Series: The Mandalorian III- NO Politics-Mysterious disappearance of Cara Dune
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Didn't she say the Mandalorians that were with her before were working as mercenaries? Wouldn't surprise me if somebody hired them to break Gideon out.
Richard
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I literally laughed aloud at the space pitch-forks, like what the hell is Dave smoking.
Sorry but this season is shit. Like the 40 villagers ....
Wow, just wow. I'm laughing with how bad everything is about the mandalorian right now.
God Andor spoiled me- I literally cannot watch this cartoon crap (but I still am, at least for this season?? I think solely to see Thrawn).
Sorry but this season is shit. Like the 40 villagers ....
Wow, just wow. I'm laughing with how bad everything is about the mandalorian right now.
God Andor spoiled me- I literally cannot watch this cartoon crap (but I still am, at least for this season?? I think solely to see Thrawn).
Jussi
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Then you are Mandalorian no more...
It's really not. I'd agree that Andor is on another level. But Mando is a great Star Wars show in its own right.
Power Man
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Jussi
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Lt Dan
F*** your ice cream!
My theory on who sprung Gideon and who's tie bombers and interceptors those were
Thrawn, it's gotta be Thrawn
Posting your own theory isn't a spoiler. I think a lot of people are predicting Thrawn at this point. It makes a lot of sense. Would tie in nicely with starting up the Ahsoka series as well. Disney loves to do that. I would be surprised if he isn't involved or at least mentioned by the end of the season honestly.
Power Man
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Power Man
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should be Thrawn since we are having Ahsoka
But what if Bo is super evil and ordered a coup leading other mandalorians we haven’t seen yet
ok I’m super reaching lol
OR
What if the dead bodies were actually imoerials that infiltrated the republic Hydra style, and Sabine and Ahsoka kidnapped Gideon to interrogate him on Thrawn’s whereabouts?
Love the creativity haha. I don't see Bo being evil but I do think it might be something nobody has really speculated about yet that I've seen. I think a New Republic Vs. Mandalorians storyline would be really interesting. They've already mentioned/shown several times that the New Republic is incompetent.
Did not go back an read so someone might have brought this up already but the jedi, Kelleran Beq, who saved Grogu was played by the actor that played Jar-Jar believe it or not!
codswallop
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I really wanted this season to be great, honestly. Liked the first two seasons: wasn't a super fan of it but it was entertaining.
Been a Star Wars geek since I was a wee lad. Saw ANH in the theaters; don't know why my parents let me at such a very young age but I'm forever grateful.
These first 5 episodes have been disappointing to me. For a lot of reasons but don't feel it's worth examining point by point (nobody wants to read all that anyhow). Maybe the last few will tie the story together more but even if it does there is already too much that has been disjointed and random to make it feel like a success.
The Nielsen ratings that just came out are not encouraging when you compare the season 2 vs season 3 premiers.
--200 million less minutes watched in the week they are measuring the season 2 vs season 3 premiers
--2 more days in the week this time around vs the season 2 premier
--17 episodes available now vs 9 episodes available for season 2 (Nielsen doesn't just go by the one episode but all available for their ratings in a week)
--number of D+ subscribers are 10 million more now compared to when season 2 dropped
If you like this season, the story, what it may mean for the future of the show, etc: awesome. No shade thrown, you like what you like. But these numbers are not good in the least. Justifying such a big budget is getting harder.
Disney said recently they would be focusing more on quality instead of quantity, and keeping budgets tighter. Need to see that to believe, they seem to not give a crap about losing money on their movies and TV shows.
But we shall see I guess.
Been a Star Wars geek since I was a wee lad. Saw ANH in the theaters; don't know why my parents let me at such a very young age but I'm forever grateful.
These first 5 episodes have been disappointing to me. For a lot of reasons but don't feel it's worth examining point by point (nobody wants to read all that anyhow). Maybe the last few will tie the story together more but even if it does there is already too much that has been disjointed and random to make it feel like a success.
The Nielsen ratings that just came out are not encouraging when you compare the season 2 vs season 3 premiers.
--200 million less minutes watched in the week they are measuring the season 2 vs season 3 premiers
--2 more days in the week this time around vs the season 2 premier
--17 episodes available now vs 9 episodes available for season 2 (Nielsen doesn't just go by the one episode but all available for their ratings in a week)
--number of D+ subscribers are 10 million more now compared to when season 2 dropped
If you like this season, the story, what it may mean for the future of the show, etc: awesome. No shade thrown, you like what you like. But these numbers are not good in the least. Justifying such a big budget is getting harder.
Disney said recently they would be focusing more on quality instead of quantity, and keeping budgets tighter. Need to see that to believe, they seem to not give a crap about losing money on their movies and TV shows.
But we shall see I guess.
Pranzo Oltranzista
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I for one would be curious to read your point by point because I actually prefer this season to the episodic structure one of the previous ones (S1 was especially yuck). It's only normal that my tastes don't align with the numbers though.
RobBrown4PM
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I near guarantee you that a lot of these things you're complaining about are a mix of ideas from John and Marvel colliding.
When you see a Dave episode, you know it's a Dave episode because it's plastered with love from the biggest SW fanboy out there (himself). Most of S2 was Dave's vision, that is extremely clear.
You don't think he could be disguised as a Mando to extract him and keep him under secrecy?
Yeah, I noticed that as well and laughed. It's hard to recruit an entire city though so I don't mind scenes with like only thirty people.
Jussi
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codswallop
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Everyone has different likes/wants when it comes to their entertainment. No judgment here.
I'm just coming at this from the POV of a super-fan for more than 4 decades. One who has been very disappointed with how Disney has managed this IP, but still has that insane fan mentality that it will get better.
Someone knows what they're doing to an extent, that's why you see so many of those memberberries. Keeps suckers like me around for a bit longer.
Putting a more objective hat on, I do see why most episodes in the first 2 seasons wouldn't be all that appealing to some. Each episode felt like a video game. Start at a certain (check)point, find out what your goal is, go on a quest/side-quest to get what you need to complete the goal, come back and finish the goal. In terms of story telling, that's lazy and boring. They're just banking on the name, which did work for a while.
I do believe this season is a downgrade on several levels. But I see your point. Going episodic, formulaic just doesn't add much real entertainment value.
Tawnos
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It's interesting you say that about taste not aligning with numbers. The biggest scifi TV franchise in history made its bones on episodic formatting (talking about Star Trek, which means the use of the word bones was an unintended pun). A common criticism of the new shows that you see from many fans of the franchise is that they *aren't* episodic. Procedural crime shows are hugely episodic and formulaic, but they go on forever because they get tons of viewers (and barely cost the studios anything to produce).
There's a whole spectrum of this kind of stuff. On one end, you have the first two Trek series, where nearly every episode was a self-contained story. In the middle, there are two approaches. First, you have something like X-Files, which had most episodes be 90-100% self-contained, but would often have a little thing here and there that moved the season's story along. The other approach is to do a bunch of self-contained episodes, but also have whole episodes dedicated to moving the season's plot forward. This is what Star Trek Deep Space 9 eventually became. And then on the other end of the spectrum, you have complete serialization like Battlestar Galactica.
You also have shows that start more on the episodic end and move deeper into serialization as things progress. Fringe is an example of that. And so, it seems, is Mandalorian. It started out using a fair amount of the X-Files approach and has evolved the other way. Everyone has their preference. I happen to like both ends of the spectrum equally. I'm enjoying this season a lot so far, with minor criticisms here and there.
MikeyMike01
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Season 1 was some of the best television I’ve ever seen. This season, total trash.
Pranzo Oltranzista
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Not sure why you quote a post asking for the longer articulated explanation of this season's weaknesses with this "opinion", but ok!
I am not exposed
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Did you watch Andor?
Thoughts?
I haven't bothered with season 3 yet so I'm one of those stats of the declining audience.
I actually think this show is very vanilla. The best thing about this show is Pedro Pascal who is a terrific actor and shows more charisma behind a mask than most Star Wars actors do unmasked. However, it's still a very meh show. I rolled my eyes when I first saw Grogu. We're in a galaxy system with how many creatures, and they go the baby Yoda route (for selling toys). The catchphrase "This is the way" is annoying as well. For such a vast place, they sure do like using the same characters/scenery. I like your comment about it feeling like a video game for each episode. Sums it up well. I actually am one of the few who liked season 2 more than season 1.
Maybe that's why Andor felt like such a breath of fresh air. Different environments. Well crafted storytelling. Of course the criticism from some was that it was too slow paced and boring. But we do live in a day and age of instant entertainment. It was just a well built show with a great payoff and the end of each arc. It wasn't perfect, but it was good and made more for an adult audience.
I feel like Star Wars does better with smaller, contained stories like Andor and the first season of Mandalorian.
Once they get into galaxy-wide conflicts, it gets messy.
Once they get into galaxy-wide conflicts, it gets messy.
Finally got around to watching the latest episode last night. I liked it, another great air battle, the Madolorian's working together and finding a new home for now. Also the plot of which Mando is helping the empire, is it The Armorer the one? I get a vibe that it is her but who knows...
Also sucks to show us all the stuff with the Rangers that was supposed to build towards The Rangers of the New Republic which is not supposedly not moving forward.
Also sucks to show us all the stuff with the Rangers that was supposed to build towards The Rangers of the New Republic which is not supposedly not moving forward.
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