People keep saying, Benning shouldn't have signed those players, and use future vision and say Benning should sign these good players to contracts even lower cap!
"Future vision" is probably the funniest thing I've heard to characterize making projections on a player using their
past performance.
It's not like these players are sprouting forth, fully formed, from Zeus' skull and is a complete blank slate. You can made
educated guesses on their performance using mountains and mountains of criteria.
Don't like fancy stats? Fine. Look at the statlines for similar defenders in similar positions in similar age ranges and compare and contrast. Scout the player. Evaluate.
The problem that people have is that Benning's standards of evaluation are flawed and fly in the face of conventional wisdom at the time...and conventional wisdom, more often than not, is correct!
I am really struggling to understand your decision making abilities. Like, are you amazed when Saturday rolls around at the end of every week because there was no way to determine that there was a weekend? Are you continually stunned over the fact that the sun rose in the sky again today because you lacked 'future vision' to determine if that was going to happen?
I'm flummoxed.
But guess what?
Qualify free agents aim to go to franchises to chase for the cup.
This should not be used as a rationalization or defense for signing poor players to even worse contracts.
Every time someone attacks a Benning signing, they ignore the reason behind it
Once again, you're inventing fiction. "Every time"? No.
Secondly, people are usually fully aware of the reasoning
and are attacking the reasoning behind the decision.
I'm all for intelligent discussions
Then start doing it.
but Benning bashers just love to point at contracts that didn't matter, and point at decisions that would have been amazing if turned out right.
You're just running all the party lines. Bad contracts have an impact on how the team is run and can have an impact on how the team performs. They matter and it is amazing that you don't understand how or why.
And yeah, things would be different if different things happened. What a revelation. But, again, people made arguments based on conventional wisdom or made predictions that things were unlikely to be "amazing" and...it happened.
But we can't criticize Benning over those decisions because they
could have been amazing? Like, is that your argument that you're contributing to this intelligent discussion?
Had Schmidt been able to adjust and be that solid Top 4
I don't think people were upset at landing Schmidt in a trade. People were less enthused with how he left town, though, although that whole matter is entirely up in the air.
or if Myers regained his form and be a solid Top 4, Benning would be celebrated.
Yes, if Myers defied what the prognosticators were expecting and flipped the script Benning
would be celebrated for having the insight and acumen to go out and land him.
But guess what?
In this place called "the real world" that didn't happen and he's rightfully castigated for it.
Do you understand that you're completely handwaving criticism of Benning away because things could have been different?
But Benning cannot control what happens AFTER the signing, and that is my key point.
Holy shit, yes, you do completely understand that.
Yes, and people were saying that Benning should've had enough common sense BEFORE the signing to not have put pen to paper. That the Canucks could have avoided an underperforming player if they exercised some common sense BEFORE he was signed.
This is some 'lol hindsight' nonsense.
People love to use AFTER the fact results to complain, but not see the AFTER results to judge Benning
Go back and look up the Myers signing and see what people were saying. I dare you. I double dog dare you.
Here, I've even saved you the effort of searching for it. Here's the main board thread, with non-Benning haters thoughts as well:
Confirmed Signing with Link: - [VAN] Tyler Myers signs with the Canucks (5 years, $6M AAV)
Or here, on the actual Canucks board:
Confirmed with Link: - Canucks sign D Tyler Myers to 5-Year, $30m Deal ($6m AAV)
If people are able to judge that the deal was bad at the time it was signed, it's not "AFTER the fact results" they're complaining about.
We now have one of the best forward groups in the league, a goaltender entering his prime who can instill fear in the opponent's when he's on his game. A defense that has clear defined roles that will be under a new defensive coach who was in Columbus and St. Louis.
Yah, our D isn't perfect. But we only have that to solve moving forward.
And that is the result under Benning's management. Is our prospect cupboard a little dry? Sure. But remember what Benning had when he took over? Benning had NOTHING. So I'm confident that he can adjust again and target unsigned prospects to fill Abbotsford to see if some of them can break out.
People cannot say Benning makes mistakes and deserved to be fired, and not be happy about today's line up.
This is the most sensible you've been in this entire post and you're still misrepresenting things. Handwaving prospect depth and his purported ~*~ talent whisperer ~*~ abilities. Pushing the false argument that he had "nothing" to work with.
