The Loss of Broberg and Holloway Gripe Thread
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TheNumber4
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I pointed this out in another thread but we replaced him with a very similar style player, same age, same draft pedigree but with a more proven track record of scoring at pro levels. But for less then half the cap hit and in the process improved a draft pick by 40-50 spots. I’ll bet that by the end of the year Holloway and Podkolzin have similar offensive numbers.
As for Broberg, love his game but the guy is a bandaid. Cheap shot, freak injury or just plain bad luck, I get the feeling it’ll always be something with him and he’s be one of those injured or recovering from injury type players, he’s got Klefbom written all over him. When he’s available he’ll be a really solid player though, probably the perfect NHL player these days, injured until playoffs but really good.
As for Broberg, love his game but the guy is a bandaid. Cheap shot, freak injury or just plain bad luck, I get the feeling it’ll always be something with him and he’s be one of those injured or recovering from injury type players, he’s got Klefbom written all over him. When he’s available he’ll be a really solid player though, probably the perfect NHL player these days, injured until playoffs but really good.
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There is no chance in hell that Pod and Holloway finish the season with similar numbers as Holloway receives more opportunity in St. Louis.
Holloway should have been locked up but our management doubled down on the now by bringing in some old washed up wingers instead of ensuring that we continue to be a competitive team in the future.
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Does he get more opportunity there? Podz has been given gravy minutes and linemates here.
Drivesaitl
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Not really understanding this comment. Pods has mostly played with Draisaitl, one of the best passers and players on the planet. he's been glued to him much of the season. lately he's had McDrai. You don't get more opportunity than that.
That said I agree with your conclusion on the washed up wingers. There was no reason to lose Holloway, and he's certainly not being replaced.
What? Holloway is scoring more than Podz at the NHL level.
Lets not pretend theres any cap savings involved either. The Oilers blew 4M on Arvid and 3m on Skinner neither of whom are all that helpful.
We could have had both Holloway and Podz in anycase. I think argument could be had the team is better with the pace of those players than obtaining more old washed up guys
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Drivesaitl
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This is the thing. Podz has been gifted stellar opportunity here, had been setup constantly and has 1G in 21GP here. You can't get better linemates than Podz has had here. Thing is even guys considered lukewarm here like Foegele, McLoed, Holloway, when they got minutes with Drai they did far more with it. Just a fact.
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You're not wrong. But with a new team and new environment that maybe buys him a bit of rope. His high work ethic and physicality buys him a bit more. Knocking out that one dude buys even more.
Ultimately. he'll either make it or he won't. A 1 Goal scorer can't last in an NHL top 6 for too long before the demotion happens. At this point I'm just willing to give him a chance and see what he does with it.
For whatever reason, offence has been a black hole for our wingers roster-wide this season. I feel a big normalization will come soon. But we'll see.
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Well...Holloway is getting PP time in St Louis so thats going to help.
PP time is virtually guaranteed to pump up the offensive numbers.
33% of his goals came on the PP.
Also I think he has been getting top 6 minutes in most if not all 24 of his games so far.
Podkolzin isnt getting a sniff on the PP here and I think he has only played around 5 games in the top 6 so far.
It takes a bit of time to adjust to playing alongside McDavid and Draisaitl as well but IMO he is showing quite well.
I would like to see more so I hope Knoblauch continues with the Podz/top 6 experiment for at least another 10 games.
TheNumber4
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I've heard this theory out there a couple times by different analysts/ex-players. That Forwards need PP time and puck touches to really get comfortable or get going... It seems like alot of the forwards we bring in take forever to get going or don't get going at all.
Kind of a hard situation though, cause like you don't want to break up one of the best PP units in recent history. But maybe the team would be better off sacrificing some PP points for the good of individual performances on this team.
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Interesting. I wouldnt be adverse to seeing that...at least on the 2nd unit.
I also wouldnt mind seeing the 2nd unti get more TOI.
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I remember it was brought it with Pool too when people were wondering how to get him going. And Rob Brown recently mentioned it too. It makes sense, as a forward you'd want to feel confident in your game with some puck touches... and we never provide that to players outside our Core 5 forwards, which could lead to regression or stalling in their games. Even our 2nd Unit barely barely gets looks cause our 1st unit takes the majority of the time.
With PP1 flailing this year, I'd be down to try it this year, moreso than any other year. We can win games 5v5 these days anyways, couldn't in the past, we were very dependent on our PP.
