Blue Jays Discussion: The long, slow march of a winter off-season

[phillipmike]

 

[phillipmike]

Blue Jays Notes: Tsutsugo, Pitching,

 

[trellaine201]

sounds like dreger lol

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[BlueForever75]

Jays need to do something soon. They have holes in rotation, 1B and OF that need to be filled. Wouldn't surprise me in the least if we see a trade prior to a signing. The Jays have plenty to deal to make a deal happen for a rotation piece. Players like Jansen, McGuire, Hernandez, Fisher, Alford, McKinney, Gurriel, Drury, Tellez and minor league pieces depending on the deal should get them a quality starter. I always said that to main addition would be from a trade and not FA.

It will be telling what happens with Shoemaker. If he is tendered and resigned it will tell us the direction they are going. But I believe there was truth to the Jansen/McGuire OR Gurriel rumors at the meetings.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[phillipmike]

 

[phillipmike]

2019-20 MLB International Reviews: Toronto Blue Jays

saw this on another forum. Not the original but another guys coles notes from the real article.

Rikelvin de Castro: 16-year-old Dominican shortstop who got $1.2 million. 6 foot, 150 lbs SS. Potential plus defender at SS with average speed and average arm strength that could improve as he gets stronger. His swing mechanics and approach result in consistent contact. He should grow into more extra-base thump once he gets stronger, though power doesn't project to be a big part of his game.

Estiven Machado: 17-year-old Venezuelan shortstop. Machado has a promising blend of explosive athleticism, tools and advanced game skills for his age with the ability to play a premium position. 5-foot-10, 165 pounds. His swing mechanics and approach results in a high contact rate. Average runner now, with a chance to get better on the basepaths. Projects to stick at SS. Above average arm that flashes plus. Arm can end up being a consistent plus-tool as he gets stronger.

Victor Mesia: 16-year-old Venezuelan catcher. He's 5-foot-10, 175 pounds with power and explosiveness to his actions. He has a compact swing, fast bat speed, a knack for the barrel and makes hard contact with an all-fields approach. He shows flashes of above-average raw power right now, giving him a chance to hit and hit for power at a high clip for a catcher. Mesia has strong legs, is athletic for a catcher and projects to stay behind the plate, with a strong arm that flashes plus now and projects to be there consistently soon.

Robert Robertis: 17-year-old Venezuelan center fielder. He's 6 feet, 170 pounds and moves well in the outfield. Has 55 speed on the 20-80 scale, but he glides around the outfield with advanced instincts for his age, reading the ball well off the bat, getting a quick first step and taking good routes. Has a below average arm. Has a solid feel for the strike zone and keeps his hands inside the ball well, but he has a big leg kick from the left side, which can cause inconsistency when his timing is off. He has a chance to become a center fielder with patience and around average power in the future.

Peniel Brito: 16-year-old third baseman. He was one of the more physical hitters in the 2019 class, looking larger than his listed 6-foot-2, 190 pounds with a thick lower half. He stands out for his strength, bat speed and offensive upside, albeit from an unconventional look. Brito has excellent bat speed and doesn't strike out much. With his strength and bat speed, he drives the ball with impact and could develop plus power. As an amateur, Brito spent some time at third base, but was mostly an outfielder. He has a strong arm, but he will need a lot of work on his footwork and range to stay in the dirt. There's a better chance he ends up in right field, with some risk of him getting big enough to go to first base, so monitoring his conditioning and agility will be important.

Cristian Feliz: 17-year-old outfielder. He has a big frame (6-foot-5, 200 pounds), and a chance to develop 70 or possibly even better raw power in his prime (currently has plus raw power). Feliz has a solid swing for his size, but he is a long-armed hitter who sometimes has timing issues in the box. That leads to swing-and-miss tendencies, which adds risk, but after signing he kept it in check and performed well in the Tricky League. Feliz is a corner outfielder who needs to improve his defensive instincts and mobility.

Endri Garcia: 17-year-old infielder. He's 5-foot-11, 155 pounds. He takes an aggressive swing and has a knack for putting the ball in play, with a line drive approach and gap power. Garcia plays all over the infield, though his defense is stretched thin at shortstop, so second or third base fit him better. He's a slightly above-average runner too, so center field might be another option as well.

Cesar Ayala: 16-year-old RHP. He throws 86-89 mph with a lot of projection arrows pointing toward the possibility of him throwing with a plus or better fastball once he get stronger, with a projectable frame (6-foot-2, 180 pounds), easy delivery and extremely loose arm action.

Dahian Santos: 16-year-old RHP. Santos has a lean, wiry build (5-foot-11, 160 pounds) an athletic delivery and quick arm speed. Santos' fastball was touching 94 mph in September. That's high-end velocity for his age and it's a fastball with a lot of movement. Santos projects to be a starter with his ability to throw strikes at a high rate and feel for a three-pitch mix, including a changeup with good action and a breaking ball that can get slurvy at times, but that he shows feel to spin.

Yosver Zulueta: 21-year-old RHP. Soon after signing he had Tommy John surgery, so he didn't pitch in 2019 and should miss 2020 as well. At 6-foot-1, 190 pounds Zulueta is athletic with a loose, quick arm and touched 98 mph in workouts before signing, mixing in a power curveball in the low-80s with three-quarters action. What Zulueta showed before signing was intriguing, but he's very much a wild card until he gets healthy and faces pro hitters.

Sem Robberse: 18-year-old RHP from the Netherlands. After signing, Robberse came to the United States and hit 90 mph, then during the GCL season he was sitting at 89-92 mph and touched 93. His lively fastball has come on as he's gotten stronger, added 20 pounds since signing to 6-foot-1, 180 pounds. There's probably more velocity coming, with Robberse having more physical upside and clean mechanics with a free-and-easy delivery. Robberse is athletic, which helps him repeat his delivery and command his fastball, a mix of two- and four-seamers. He shows feel for a breaking ball that flashes as a 55 pitch on the 20-80 scale, with a changeup that he's just learning.

Jiorgeny Casimiri: 18-year-old RHP from the Netherlands. He's 6-foot-1, 160 pounds with a fastball that touches the low-90s, throwing strikes with feel for a slider that flashes average.

 

[phillipmike]

 

[Jozay]

 

[phillipmike]

Wow I don’t know what’s more surprising;

Getting 4 years
Getting 16M a year
paying him to play 2B
Or that he will be playing 2B until he is 35

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Another good move for them.

About a year too long, and $2MM\aav more than I would have spent.

Wow I don’t know what’s more surprising;

Getting 4 years
Getting 16M a year
paying him to play 2B
Or that he will be playing 2B until he is 35

Its all an overpay by them/mismanagement by them.

 

[Amadeus]

Another good move for them.



About a year too long, and $2MM\aav more than I would have spent.



Its all an overpay by them/mismanagement by them.

Treadmill move by a treadmill team.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Amadeus]

Thats a loss for sure! Wonder who will replace Sanders!

 

[Anthrax442]

Report: Astros to non-tender Aaron Sanchez

 

[phillipmike]

Huge loss, big get for Pittsburgh. Damn Pittsburgh, was hoping they went after a different GM... because there will be a lot of losses from the Jays organization.

 

[The Nemesis]

Huge loss, big get for Pittsburgh. Damn Pittsburgh, was hoping they went after a different GM... because there will be a lot of losses from the Jays organization.

Probably not. Theres probably a limit on how many guys he's allowed to poach built into the agreement to let him out of his contract to take the pirates GM gig. So we might see a couple more, bit I'm not expecting a mass exodus.

 

[Anthrax442]

Probably not. Theres probably a limit on how many guys he's allowed to poach built into the agreement to let him out of his contract to take the pirates GM gig. So we might see a couple more, bit I'm not expecting a mass exodus.

He has to promote them if poaching, only limited amount of those jobs available

 

[canucksfan]

 

[The Nemesis]

Maile is no surprise. There just wasn't room for him anymore.

A little surprised about Law though. He had some good stretches last year even if his end result season-long stats were mediocre-to-poor. I also expect he will now elicit a whole new wave of "but now the team has nothing to show for the Pillar trade at all! Durka dur!" nonsense from the anti-management twitter casuals who were just aching for something to complain about. As if the decision to hold onto a player should be based in any way on how he was acquired.

 

[Petes]

Taijuan Walker non tendered by D-Backs... I know he had a rough year with some bad injuries but if can come cheap it might be worth it as a reclamation project.

 

[phillipmike]

Tim Beckham, Domingo Santana, and Kevin Pillar non tenders.

A few recently good players non tendered in Addison Russell and Blake Treinen.

Jonathan Villar traded to Miami.

 

[Discoverer]

Add Jimmy Nelson to the list of potentially interesting reclamation projects.

 

[The Nemesis]

Tim Beckham, Domingo Santana, and Kevin Pillar non tenders.

A few recently good players non tendered in Addison Russell and Blake Treinen.

Jonathan Villar traded to Miami.

That SF writer that gave an MVP vote to Pillar must be beside himself.