Someone here wanted the jays to get cotton. He just got dealt to the cubs for cash considerations.
Blue Jays Discussion: The long, slow march of a winter off-season
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phillipmike
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AJ Cole is an interesting pickup. Sneaky fastball that hits 95 and was decent with Washington last season. Good depth piece, definitely not what we have all been waiting for though.
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He was in Cleveland last season.
I agree that it's interesting. He's not necessarily going to take one of the high-leverage spots, but he could always be a useful middle reliever.
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The fans wanted us to sign Cole so we did, and we did it for less than they were all suggesting. You’re welcome
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Yolmer Sanchez on waivers after 2.1, 1.8 and 1 fWAR or 3.5. 2.6 and 2.1 bWAR the last 3 seasons. Under control for 2 more seasons... Might be another rough off-season for some guys. Still only 27.
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Justin Shafer traded to the Reds for cash.
Bound to happen given that he was DFA'd to make room on the 40-man for the new rule 5 protections.
Shame, but he had a couple of opportunities and while he showed flashes he also never really put it together
Bound to happen given that he was DFA'd to make room on the 40-man for the new rule 5 protections.
Shame, but he had a couple of opportunities and while he showed flashes he also never really put it together
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So the Cards now have nothing left to show for Randal Grichuk.
If only we were as lucky.
And on a minor league invite....didn’t even waste a 40-man roster spot....
Some people are never happy.
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Regardless of whether you want an improvement over him, I can't imagine we would be better off without Grichuk vs with him.
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1000% the organization is better off having made that deal for Grichuk, I don’t think anyone can argue otherwise. It’s the extension of and commitment to Grichuk that I think puzzles and perhaps frustrates some as there’s still 4 years left on a guy that hasn’t made strides at the plate (wRC+ figure the last 4 years: 102, 95, 115, and 90) and will lose athleticism going forward impacting his defensive value.
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Exactly. It was a good deal, no doubt, but the premature extension was a bit baffling.
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Here are some fun facts about Randal Grichuk’s 2019 season!
Among RFers with a minimum of 130 PAs, Grichuk ranked:
- 45th in total fWAR.
- 50th in wRC+
- 47th in Swinging-strike rate despite finishing 19th in zone-contact rate.
-He swung at pitches outside the strike zone 4.8% worse than MLB league average.
- His Barrel rate dropped steeply to 8.5% after finishing in the top 15 in MLB in 3 of the previous 4 years.
-xBA and xSLG fell as a result with .237 and .427 marks respectively which show that he largely deserved what he produced in 2019.
I believe there is some bounce back potential in Grichuk going forward, but his skill set is becoming less valuable in today’s juiced ball era, especially in a traditional corner OF position where above-average offence is expected. With another 4 years to go and likely athletic decline coming as he approaches and eventually passes 30, you can see why there’s some that aren’t a fan of the extension.
Among RFers with a minimum of 130 PAs, Grichuk ranked:
- 45th in total fWAR.
- 50th in wRC+
- 47th in Swinging-strike rate despite finishing 19th in zone-contact rate.
-He swung at pitches outside the strike zone 4.8% worse than MLB league average.
- His Barrel rate dropped steeply to 8.5% after finishing in the top 15 in MLB in 3 of the previous 4 years.
-xBA and xSLG fell as a result with .237 and .427 marks respectively which show that he largely deserved what he produced in 2019.
I believe there is some bounce back potential in Grichuk going forward, but his skill set is becoming less valuable in today’s juiced ball era, especially in a traditional corner OF position where above-average offence is expected. With another 4 years to go and likely athletic decline coming as he approaches and eventually passes 30, you can see why there’s some that aren’t a fan of the extension.
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I obviously don't like the extension now, but I was comfortable with it when it was signed because he had been an above average player for his career and I thought 2018 hinted at more untapped potential.
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Yeah we were talking a 2 fWAR average from 27 year old outfielder who has yet to get to 500 PAs. It wasnt a bad bet, just didnt look good after year 1. Still time in my eyes.
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