TV: The Last of Us (HBO)

[GKJ]

Glad you admitted that, now go apologize to Arthur Morgan for criticizing him for comparing the game and the show, and then we can move on...

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What? This ain’t kindergarten. My reasoning is valid. You seem like you have the same issue here, so, again, I say, it’s not healthy to dissect menial minutiae like this for the reasons I said.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Nobody is noticing this or cares about it. It’s free ice cream day and you’re complaining there’s too many flavors.

no people have noticed and have talked about it since the show started. it's felted rushed the entire time, but that doesn't mean its bad. just the pacing of the show and even the word for word parts from the game feel rushed or maybe not rushed but a much higher tempo.

The Last of Us Has a Pacing Problem That Hurts Its Characters

As good as the HBO adaptation is, The Last of Us Season 1 has a major pacing problem that doesn't do justice to the rest of the supporting class.

www.cbr.com

The Last of Us: Episode 6 Review - IGN

Episode six of HBO’s The Last of Us allows for past demons to be exorcised in order to build a stronger future for Joel and Ellie.

www.ign.com

even ign's review for episode 6 says "It comes as a slight surprise, then, that the end of this episode feels ever-so-slightly rushed"

The Last Of Us: Episode 6 Review

Episode 6 of The Last of Us deepens the bond between Joel and Ellie, and then leaves viewers with the most agonizing cliffhanger in the series so far.

gamerant.com

"After Joel and Ellie head off further West to find the Fireflies, the pacing goes haywire. The ending felt rushed, and the editing was slightly choppy. It seemed like the showrunners had decided on the cliffhanger, but couldn’t agree upon the best route to get there."

 

[Arthur Morgan]

What? This ain’t kindergarten. My reasoning is valid. You seem like you have the same issue here, so, again, I say, it’s not healthy to dissect menial minutiae like this for the reasons I said.

look the show copies some scenes word for word, how can someone not compare those scenes?
Now HanSolo made a very good point and it's likely that I never would have liked the TV Shows take on it more over the main source.

I dont see how it's so bad to prefer one over the other, Im not sitting here saying the TV Show is shit and Pedro and Bella are shit, they are great. but I know these scenes. word for word and I can't help but notice the pacing is a little fast. Im still enjoying it but I do kinda wish they broke the 1st game into atleast 2 or 3 seasons to really push the emotional content onto people,

besides half of the people here will disappear come 2nd season anyways. only those who truly love this will stick with it no matter what

 

[GKJ]

no people have noticed and have talked about it since the show started. it's felted rushed the entire time, but that doesn't mean its bad. just the pacing of the show and even the word for word parts from the game feel rushed or maybe not rushed but a much higher tempo.

The Last of Us Has a Pacing Problem That Hurts Its Characters

As good as the HBO adaptation is, The Last of Us Season 1 has a major pacing problem that doesn't do justice to the rest of the supporting class.

www.cbr.com

The Last of Us: Episode 6 Review - IGN

Episode six of HBO’s The Last of Us allows for past demons to be exorcised in order to build a stronger future for Joel and Ellie.

www.ign.com

even ign's review for episode 6 says "It comes as a slight surprise, then, that the end of this episode feels ever-so-slightly rushed"

The Last Of Us: Episode 6 Review

Episode 6 of The Last of Us deepens the bond between Joel and Ellie, and then leaves viewers with the most agonizing cliffhanger in the series so far.

gamerant.com

"After Joel and Ellie head off further West to find the Fireflies, the pacing goes haywire. The ending felt rushed, and the editing was slightly choppy. It seemed like the showrunners had decided on the cliffhanger, but couldn’t agree upon the best route to get there."

If we’re separating the rushing the actual performance in dialogue from how it is written, that’s two separate things. You can’t constantly line up the game with the TV show because they’re made for different mediums. You don’t see more fighting with clickers because it’s not important. They do the whole thing in Jackson, and then they ride down to Colorado where Joel gets stabbed after having started now warming to Ellie’s person, that is natural order of the events. I’m not sure what people want when they keep saying ‘this is actually good’ but everything said about it is why it’s not. They did exactly what they were supposed to do, or at least intended.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

If we’re separating the rushing the actual performance in dialogue from how it is written, that’s two separate things. You can’t constantly line up the game with the TV show because they’re made for different mediums. You don’t see more fighting with clickers because it’s not important. They do the whole thing in Jackson, and then they ride down to Colorado where Joel gets stabbed after having started now warming to Ellie’s person, that is natural order of the events. I’m not sure what people want when they keep saying ‘this is actually good’ but everything said about it is why it’s not. They did exactly what they were supposed to do, or at least intended.

Im not separating anything both feel rushed. go watch some of the dialog from the game and watch the exact same scenes in the TV Show and tell me it doesnt feel a little fast paced.

I never said this show needs to have endless violence. it's pretty obvious they had to make multiple changes to make it more realistic but still should have a little more infected in there.

I dunno why you care so much what I think anyways. you dont think its fast paced.... great I do..... What else is there to say?

 

[TheAngryHank]

IDK the game at all or read material except for this thread..
It's rushed ..hard.
The time from one destination to another is a finger snap , Pitt ot KC they got gas 1time.
KC to Wyoming they stop at the native american cabin ,get directions and go. Tommys compound to Colorado... boom right there..IDK what it would take to make it seem less rushed but those trips especially Pitt to KC could go a season.. Feels like missed opportunity . I realize funding comes in to play and not knowing the success of the show they are cramming as much as possible in to this first season to test the water.. Game of thrones and this show defiantly leave you wanting more.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

IDK the game at all or read material except for this thread..
It's rushed ..hard.
The time from one destination to another is a finger snap , Pitt ot KC they got gas 1time.
KC to Wyoming they stop at the native american cabin ,get directions and go. Tommys compound to Colorado... boom right there..IDK what it would take to make it seem less rushed but those trips especially Pitt to KC could go a season.. Feels like missed opportunity . I realize funding comes in to play and not knowing the success of the show they are cramming as much as possible in to this first season to test the water.. Game of thrones and this show defiantly leave you wanting more.

even though its fast paced it's still good but I think for sure they could have spread this out over a couple seasons and it would have been incredible. Im just going to enjoy this for what it is.

 

[TheAngryHank]

even though its fast paced it's still good but I think for sure they could have spread this out over a couple seasons and it would have been incredible. Im just going to enjoy this for what it is.

agreed with enjoying whats given.
A pitt fall with spreading it out is Ellies age , in 3 seasons she will be an adult woman and not still 13 and a recast might ruin a good thing.. However i could still watch some of the day to day or action moments in between.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

agreed with enjoying whats given.
A pitt fall with spreading it out is Ellies age , in 3 seasons she will be an adult woman and not still 13 and a recast might ruin a good thing.. However i could still watch some of the day to day or action moments in between.

I guess only way around that is do what they did for Lord Of The Rings, film it all then release in seasons or in 3 movies

 

[GKJ]

Im not separating anything both feel rushed. go watch some of the dialog from the game and watch the exact same scenes in the TV Show and tell me it doesnt feel a little fast paced.

I never said this show needs to have endless violence. it's pretty obvious they had to make multiple changes to make it more realistic but still should have a little more infected in there.

I dunno why you care so much what I think anyways. you dont think it’s fast paced.... great I do..... What else is there to say?

I don’t, we had someone else swoop in and decide to raise a bigger shit about it than was intended.

It’s supposed to, this is TV. You’re not going to be able to do, nor will want to do, all the same things on TV that you can in video games, due in part because you have actual actors on the screen, and vice-versa.

 

[Pink Mist]

Im not separating anything both feel rushed. go watch some of the dialog from the game and watch the exact same scenes in the TV Show and tell me it doesnt feel a little fast paced.

The speed of dialogue isn't what critics mean when they describe something as having pacing issues lol

 

[Arthur Morgan]

The speed of dialogue isn't what critics mean when they describe something as having pacing issues lol

thanks point dexter..... I also said both felt rushed but yeah sure

I don’t, we had someone else swoop in and decide to raise a bigger shit about it than was intended.

It’s supposed to, this is TV. You’re not going to be able to do, nor will want to do, all the same things on TV that you can in video games, due in part because you have actual actors on the screen, and vice-versa.

it's supposed to be faster paced? you do realize the game was filmed basically the same way right? the original voice actors actually acted out the scenes

 

[Arthur Morgan]

looking forward till 2nd season where the fanbase will split again

 

[GKJ]

thanks point dexter..... I also said both felt rushed but yeah sure


it's supposed to be faster paced? you do realize the game was filmed basically the same way right? the original voice actors actually acted out the scenes

Yes and now we have new actors, and directors.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

Yes and now we have new actors, and directors.

..... ok cool annnnd? also Druckmann is still on it

 

[GKJ]

..... ok cool annnnd? also Druckmann is still on it

He only directed the second episode

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

agreed with enjoying whats given.
A pitt fall with spreading it out is Ellies age , in 3 seasons she will be an adult woman and not still 13 and a recast might ruin a good thing.. However i could still watch some of the day to day or action moments in between.

Why would they recast

 

[TheAngryHank]

Why would they recast

lets say 1 year past on the show timeline but Bella has aged 3 years in real life .. from 13-14 to 16-17 is dramatic for a person that age was my meaning. Hard to make that time stall for someone in that age groupe.

 

[PSfan]

What? This ain’t kindergarten. My reasoning is valid. You seem like you have the same issue here, so, again, I say, it’s not healthy to dissect menial minutiae like this for the reasons I said.

I had intended a different response to this, but for simplicity sake:

It doesn't matter if ones a game and ones a tv show: the game did it better
it doesn't matter if the show has different actors: the game did it better
and it wouldn't have mattered if one of the filming crew's appendix burst, and they had to finish the scene before they could rush them to the hospital: the game did it better.

Why did I decide to go a different way with this post? Well, the suggestion that it its effort to criticize a show isn't completely true. Sometimes a show does something so incredibly stupid I'm more shock more people haven't called it out, and what triggered this revelation in regards to the last of us. The simple realization that Sam's appendix bursting would of made way way way more sense then him having a disease that even today (not during a 20 year zombie apocalypse) take almost 2 years of treatments! And I may have a little insight into this because just this week a family member of mine got to watch an NHL game from a Suite because they where invited because his son had getting treatments for leukemia for almost a year and a half.

Edit: This is a question to everyone: Do you think "The Last of us" is above criticism?

 

[Mr Fahrenheit]

lets say 1 year past on the show timeline but Bella has aged 3 years in real life .. from 13-14 to 16-17 is dramatic for a person that age was my meaning. Hard to make that time stall for someone in that age groupe.

Well shes 19 right now

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I had intended a different response to this, but for simplicity sake:

It doesn't matter if ones a game and ones a tv show: the game did it better
it doesn't matter if the show has different actors: the game did it better
and it wouldn't have mattered if one of the filming crew's appendix burst, and they had to finish the scene before they could rush them to the hospital: the game did it better.

Why did I decide to go a different way with this post? Well, the suggestion that it its effort to criticize a show isn't completely true. Sometimes a show does something so incredibly stupid I'm more shock more people haven't called it out, and what triggered this revelation in regards to the last of us. The simple realization that Sam's appendix bursting would of made way way way more sense then him having a disease that even today (not during a 20 year zombie apocalypse) take almost 2 years of treatments! And I may have a little insight into this because just this week a family member of mine got to watch an NHL game from a Suite because they where invited because his son had getting treatments for leukemia for almost a year and a half.

Edit: This is a question to everyone: Do you think "The Last of us" is above criticism?

So far? Yeah, it's about as close to a perfect show as you can get.

 

[x Tame Impala]

Feels like not much happens and the show is too heavy on the silent emotions. I didn’t play the game so maybe there’s a ton I’m missing.

I’d rather be seeing more about the disease, more things like the Indonesian doctor in the beginning of episode 2.

Episode 1 hits you with a sledgehammer but the rest of the show is too much slow burn for me personally. I’m glad he found Tommy however.

 

[TheAngryHank]

Well shes 19 right now

that I didnt know.. , I accepted her age on the show information. she was a kid last time I seen her as a northerner...Bear island was longer than I thought.Forgive my thinking that she was younger while certainty looking the part

 

[TheAngryHank]

Feels like not much happens and the show is too heavy on the silent emotions. I didn’t play the game so maybe there’s a ton I’m missing.

I’d rather be seeing more about the disease, more things like the Indonesian doctor in the beginning of episode 2.

Episode 1 hits you with a sledgehammer but the rest of the show is too much slow burn for me personally. I’m glad he found Tommy however.

Indonesian doctor knew it was over do or die drop the bombs for humanity sake but it was over, no time to study.She was a leading expert knowing .life as we know it ..no next chapter

 

[zombie kopitar]

besides half of the people here will disappear come 2nd season anyways. only those who truly love this will stick with it no matter what

Now that's a hot take, it's a global event type show....did Lost, Breaking Bad, GoT ect, fall off just because? The hype train didn't even fully take off until after s1 of those 3 specifically, though I will admit this is a slighly different show format. But unless you're talking about the questionable writing of the second game (which I have no opinion on cause I have never played so no spoilers please), the show is only going to get bigger as word of mouth keeps growing and more people eventually get around to watching it.