TV: The Last of Us (HBO)

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Last Of Us theme song should be Rush Rush To The Yayo
Game trumps the show in almost every way, I'm enjoying it dont get me wrong but the game's way of doing things is just so much better. including the ending of that episode last night.

The Walking Dead
Fear the Walking Dead (I was stunned to find out from Google that this garbage got 7 seasons)
Zombieland: The Series
Z Nation
I zombie (barely counts. I didn't watch it but pretty sure the main character is an intelligent zombie who solves murders by eating part of the victim's brain)
The Last of Us

The rest are too obscure to matter. So yeah. Not that many all things considered. A lot more zombie movies if anything.
they aren't zombies but still fall in the same category like even 28 days and week later they aren't zombies they are infected
 

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Whenever watching a US based zombie show, I like to imagine the rest of the world is still functioning just well. Canadians are up there thinking "oh the yanks are up to some shit again".
They'll freeze...unless it's not winter!

No worries, Canucks are always prepared:
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Tommy's wife told Ellie that she used to be an assistant DA before everything went to shit.

She looked far too young for that right? This is 20 years later and she looked like she was still in her 30s.
Actress playing her is 44
 

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Last Of Us theme song should be Rush Rush To The Yayo
Game trumps the show in almost every way, I'm enjoying it dont get me wrong but the game's way of doing things is just so much better. including the ending of that episode last night.


they aren't zombies but still fall in the same category like even 28 days and week later they aren't zombies they are infected
I didn't list movies

Also I got what happened in the game spoiled on Twitter again but at least that was after the episode aired. So I hope your beef isn't that

Joel didn't fall one story and get impaled through his abdomen and still have the strength and clarity to kill multiple attackers. And then from there, Ellie manages to transport him and treat him without any medical expertise. Cause that's what some are complaining about and that is absolutely too absurd for live action.
 
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Man that was a great episode. Was worried it was gonna be just a filler episode but not at all. Amazing character/relationship development in it just like in the game. Also liked how they did the university scene - if I didn't play the game I'd be freaked out about that
Also shootout to the Dina cameo there in Jackson. Love that they added that
 

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I didn't list movies

Also I got what happened in the game spoiled on Twitter again but at least that was after the episode aired. So I hope your beef isn't that

Joel didn't fall one story and get impaled through his abdomen and still have the strength and clarity to kill multiple attackers. And then from there, Ellie manages to transport him and treat him without any medical expertise. Cause that's what some are complaining about and that is absolutely too absurd for live action.
not at all, I actually dont have much of an issue with the show, just for the first time I now know what its like.
usually I watch the remakes of old movies then watch the original and compare them the other way. for once I know the main source and I obviously am extremely high on it, Im a huge Last Of Us homer and have been since its 2013 release. so I guess the show just feels a little rushed and just not as good. but its still good. I dunno its hard to explain.
I view one as perfection and the other as good

I didn't list movies

Also I got what happened in the game spoiled on Twitter again but at least that was after the episode aired. So I hope your beef isn't that

Joel didn't fall one story and get impaled through his abdomen and still have the strength and clarity to kill multiple attackers. And then from there, Ellie manages to transport him and treat him without any medical expertise. Cause that's what some are complaining about and that is absolutely too absurd for live action.
oh and sorry I was just saying they aren't zombies. just infected
 

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Arthur whining again.


Go play the game mate...this show is not the game...doesnt aim to be.
oh shut up with the whining bs. Im allowed to compare them. do you just completely choose to ignore where I said I liked the episode. look Im going to compare them every episode no matter what so get over it.

I'm allowed to like the game's performances more, I just think Troy and Ashley killlled it compared to Pedro and Bella. that doesnt mean I hate what they are doing, they are good. just feels rushed. the lines and everything feels rushed,

what do you expect when they take lines word for word from the game?
 

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now that I think of it I guess there are alot of parts from the game that had to be changed to keep things more realistic. I thought the rebar was alot more brutal in the game and just overall had more of an effect on me. I wonder how I would have reacted if I didnt know exactly what was going to happen
 

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not at all, I actually dont have much of an issue with the show, just for the first time I now know what its like.
usually I watch the remakes of old movies then watch the original and compare them the other way. for once I know the main source and I obviously am extremely high on it, Im a huge Last Of Us homer and have been since its 2013 release. so I guess the show just feels a little rushed and just not as good. but its still good. I dunno its hard to explain.
I view one as perfection and the other as good


oh and sorry I was just saying they aren't zombies. just infected
I don't know man. I'll grant that I haven't played the game through and probably won't until it drops for PC. So you know better than me how it compares. But just looking at how this story unfolds in the medium of a series, I find no issue whatsoever with the pacing of these scenes. I wouldn't call it frenetic pacing at all. I mean I showed a few episodes to my parents and they found the show to be boring and too slowly paced. Just as an example. I guess what I'm trying to say is I can't really see how streamlining these conversations and moments as you're claiming is actually making these moments objectively worse. I think it comes down to what you should expect from a show versus the wider latitude to take time and build out stories, moments, and dialogue like in novels or, in rare cases, video games. There's only so much budget for only so much runtime. Again, I only have less than cliffnotes experience with this story so this being my first time experiencing it, I've loved every bit of what we got.
 
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I don't know man. I'll grant that I haven't played the game through and probably won't until it drops for PC. So you know better than me how it compares. But just looking at how this story unfolds in the medium of a series, I find no issue whatsoever with the pacing of these scenes. I wouldn't call it frenetic pacing at all. I mean I showed a few episodes to my parents and they found the show to be boring and too slowly paced. Just as an example. I guess what I'm trying to say is I can't really see how streamlining these conversations and moments as you're claiming is actually making these moments objectively worse. I think it comes down to what you should expect from a show versus the wider latitude to take time and build out stories, moments, and dialogue like in novels or, in rare cases, video games. There's only so much budget for only so much runtime. Again, I only have less than cliffnotes experience with this story so this being my first time experiencing it, I've loved every bit of what we got.
the pacing of the show is fine as well too. they skipped a few scenes but nothing too serious. just when it gets to the iconic lines of the game. big moments that gave me goosebumps playing, for the most part it's missing from the show for me. I dunno if it's just the way Troy delivers his lines are Joel, its just perfection. the show is fantastic and I will be buying it 4K but Ill always be real hard on comparing these games.

When you love something so much it's always going to be hard to like the new version more.
 

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the pacing of the show is fine as well too. they skipped a few scenes but nothing too serious. just when it gets to the iconic lines of the game. big moments that gave me goosebumps playing, for the most part it's missing from the show for me. I dunno if it's just the way Troy delivers his lines are Joel, its just perfection. the show is fantastic and I will be buying it 4K but Ill always be real hard on comparing these games.

When you love something so much it's always going to be hard to like the new version more.
I mean I guess, but this really doesn't strike me as a Mulan animated versus live action issue. Seems to be a mostly faithful adaptation that captures the spirit and purpose of its source material which is virtually unheard of with video game to live action adaptations. And for me personally I've enjoyed the performances of the leads a great deal. I'm a little biased in Pedro Pascal's favor since he's one of my favorite actors these days but. Idk if it's not hitting to notes the way you liked it in the games that's fine. I've had a tremendous time with this show overall and I know many others have as well.
 

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I mean I guess, but this really doesn't strike me as a Mulan animated versus live action issue. Seems to be a mostly faithful adaptation that captures the spirit and purpose of its source material which is virtually unheard of with video game to live action adaptations. And for me personally I've enjoyed the performances of the leads a great deal. I'm a little biased in Pedro Pascal's favor since he's one of my favorite actors these days but. Idk if it's not hitting to notes the way you liked it in the games that's fine. I've had a tremendous time with this show overall and I know many others have as well.
I wouldn't know never seen the animated version.

I originally thought this was going to be almost identical to the game and honestly its not far off, they have done a really good job. just feels little rushed in the line delivery.
as an example

the show's great but do you see what I mean by the delivery of the scenes just feel little rushed?
the shows good and Im enjoying it but hard not to compare a little when the scenes are so damn close
 

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I wouldn't know never seen the animated version.

I originally thought this was going to be almost identical to the game and honestly its not far off, they have done a really good job. just feels little rushed in the line delivery.
as an example

the show's great but do you see what I mean by the delivery of the scenes just feel little rushed?
the shows good and Im enjoying it but hard not to compare a little when the scenes are so damn close

Point with the Mulan comparison is that other than having the same basic premise and characters, they're entirely different things in tone, execution, etc. I'd take it a step further and say that the live action adaptation is completely soulless and joyless. I'm relying on people who've played the game and are watching the show, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

As for your video example, I'm the wrong person to ask. Because yes, I see what you're saying that the same conversation had, let's say, a faster tempo. But I don't think that takes away from the emotional impact. If anything, I'd say the natural physical acting you get from Ramsay and Pascal elevated the emotional impact. But I say I'm the wrong person to ask because I didn't spend the last ten years loving the game as I never played it. That also includes not playing the missions and hearing any in-action dialogue or anything like that so I didn't get the benefit of having all those character moments drive that cutscene with the game's rendition/depiction of the characters. To me, the show's version feels more impactful because my only frame of reference is the growth and development of the Pascal/Ramsay portrayals.

To put it a different way, The Witcher has come in three different mediums. Sapkowski's original novels and short stories, the video games, and the Netflix show. So that's three different ways that the character Geralt of Rivia has been depicted. I have a two frames of reference to go off of: The Witcher 3's Geralt of Rivia. I never read Sapkowski's works and I haven't set time aside to play The Witcher 1 and 2. But I did watch the Netflix show. Geralt is my favorite video game character of all time based on the Witcher 3 and its DLC stories. Henry Cavill did an admirable job embodying Geralt in a series meant to adapt the novels and short stories. But he doesn't really come close to the dry wit and the hard and righteous rogue you get in the Witcher 3. Would I have preferred Cavill's Geralt to the game if I had watched the show before playing the game? Maybe, maybe not. I'll never know. But you had ten years to adore the original game's depiction of Joel and Ellie. So from my perspective, I'm seeing that there is an inherent bias towards what you initially loved that was probably never going to be overcome no matter how the show was cut or how Ramsay and Pascal played these roles. But that's just a guess. I don't know what's going on in your head.

All I can say is for those of us that are experiencing this story and these characters for the first time, for the most part, we're loving what we're getting. So talk of how things weren't adapted one for one, or certain memorable lines/conversations weren't delivered exactly like in the games it's hard not to have a reaction of "so f***ing what?"
 
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Point with the Mulan comparison is that other than having the same basic premise and characters, they're entirely different things in tone, execution, etc. I'd take it a step further and say that the live action adaptation is completely soulless and joyless. I'm relying on people who've played the game and are watching the show, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

As for your video example, I'm the wrong person to ask. Because yes, I see what you're saying that the same conversation had, let's say, a faster tempo. But I don't think that takes away from the emotional impact. If anything, I'd say the natural physical acting you get from Ramsay and Pascal elevated the emotional impact. But I say I'm the wrong person to ask because I didn't spend the last ten years loving the game as I never played it. That also includes not playing the missions and hearing any in-action dialogue or anything like that so I didn't get the benefit of having all those character moments drive that cutscene with the game's rendition/depiction of the characters. To me, the show's version feels more impactful because my only frame of reference is the growth and development of the Pascal/Ramsay portrayals.

To put it a different way, The Witcher has come in three different mediums. Sapkowski's original novels and short stories, the video games, and the Netflix show. So that's three different ways that the character Geralt of Rivia has been depicted. I have a single frame of reference to go off of: The Witcher 3's Geralt of Rivia. I never read Sapkowski's works and I haven't set time aside to play The Witcher 1 and 2. But I did watch the Netflix show. Geralt is my favorite video game character of all time based on the Witcher 3 and its DLC stories. Henry Cavill did an admirable job embodying Geralt in a series meant to adapt the novels and short stories. But he doesn't really come close to the dry wit and the hard and righteous rogue you get in the Witcher 3. Would I have preferred Cavill's Geralt to the game if I had watched the show before playing the game? Maybe, maybe not. I'll never know. But you had ten years to adore the original game's depiction of Joel and Ellie. So from my perspective, I'm seeing that there is an inherent bias towards what you initially loved that was probably never going to be overcome no matter how the show was cut or how Ramsay and Pascal played these roles. But that's just a guess. I don't know what's going on in your head.

All I can say is for those of us that are experiencing this story and these characters for the first time, for the most part, we're loving what we're getting. So talk of how things weren't adapted one for one, or certain memorable lines/conversations weren't delivered exactly like in the games it's hard not to have a reaction of "so f***ing what?"
you make alot of good points and I agree with you. I still really do like this series, maybe I shouldnt be comparing them so much. also Pascal is one of my fav actors too and I love what he's done.
does seem to have a faster tempo like you said

you are right though, likely never would have liked it over the original. I really shouldn't be focusing on the stuff Ive been going on about and more so things I liked. there really hasnt been a bad episode.
wouldn't mind a little more infected though
 

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Was I the only one that noticed Pedro was laughing when the native guy in the cabin said, "Holy" Pedro entire body was shaking likely from laughter at the moment. My ass was laughing lol That was great.
 

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I think the show is staying very faithful. To me the changes they made have all been pretty minor
 

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The biggest change was Bill and Frank but otherwise they have remained faithful to the game, even keeping the same dialogue at times. Of course there will be changes from the game but most of them are really minor. Some were made for more emotional impact like making the kid deaf, in the game he wasn't.

I like to compare between the game and the TV show on Youtube by looking through the mission walkthroughs. One thing I do see upon casual watching is that the game appears to be more violent and jarring. It's been toned down for TV, but yeah, when Joel first crashes the car in Pittsburgh the rebels literally grab Ellie out of the car, in the TV show that doesn't happen. And there were supposedly differences in the last episode about the major event at the end (between the game and the TV show).

I've never played the game, and don't intend to, but that doesn't rob me from enjoying the TV show tremendously.
 
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