The Islanders aren't boring

[tarheelhockey]

Baloney - The goalies in this series have had to make tons of tough saves. And there has been plenty of action in the high danger zones. Look, I get it. the Canes are not in the playoffs. Get over it. Go watch golf if it's bothering you so much. Same for all the other whiny posters.

Again -- what makes you think I have some sort of hate on for the Islanders but not for Dallas or Tampa?

The fact of the matter is that the Islanders stick out as this year's equivalent to the late-90s Devils. Of course Devils fans have fond memories of that period, they probably enjoyed every minute of it and rightfully so. The rest of the hockey world watched first in boredom and then in horror at the direction the NHL took during that period. That is also a completely fair, valid perspective on what was without question a featureless and un-entertaining style of play.

If you're going to be that team, at least own up to it. You're certainly not going to convince people to be entertained by what is objectively low-event hockey.

 

[Rondo Hatton]

The Islanders are boring, so were the mid-nineties NJD. I can think of 1 thing these teams have in common. I am in the minority, but I look forward to the day the Lou is not in the league anymore. He brings the quality of hockey entertainment way down. Playing not to lose - yeah thanks but no thanks. Facial hair and dress codes are stupid as well but my main beef is the on ice product zzz zzz

 

[GoJetsGo55]

This is such a stupid take. I hate the penguins more then any team in the league but no one is calling them boring. I hate at least 10 teams more then the islanders possibly 15 depending on the season and still dont call any of them boring. Your entire argument is made up and stupid. The only reason i am raging against the islanders now is because its a copy cat league and if a boring as f*** paint drying grass growing boring ass team wins and people start copying that boring ass style its going to be annoying. 31 teams in the league. 29 aren't boring. 1 is because they are rebuilding and have no assets that can drive a game. The last is the islanders who are in the ECF. NO EXCUSE TO BE THAT BORING. none.

But if the Rangers were where the Islanders are now, with the same play style, would you be excited?

 

[GoJetsGo55]

Again -- what makes you think I have some sort of hate on for the Islanders but not for Dallas or Tampa?

The fact of the matter is that the Islanders stick out as this year's equivalent to the late-90s Devils. Of course Devils fans have fond memories of that period, they probably enjoyed every minute of it and rightfully so. The rest of the hockey world watched first in boredom and then in horror at the direction the NHL took during that period. That is also a completely fair, valid perspective on what was without question a featureless and un-entertaining style of play.

If you're going to be that team, at least own up to it. You're certainly not going to convince people to be entertained by what is objectively low-event hockey.

Why though? Their team is in the semi-finals. People here seem to have this notion that Islanders fans should feel bad.

It's a whole lot of "Well I can't shit on your teams success so.....lets go in this direction"

When the Jets were in the semi-finals against Vegas, do you think I gave 1 iota of a damn about what fans of other teams thought about our play style?

Or do you think I was completely focused on this amazing thing that was happening that brought me a tonne of joy?

 

[tarheelhockey]

Why though? Their team is in the semi-finals. People here seem to have this notion that Islanders fans should feel bad.

It's a whole lot of "Well I can't shit on your teams success so.....lets go in this direction"

When the Jets were in the semi-finals against Vegas, do you think I gave 1 iota of a damn about what fans of other teams thought about our play style?

Or do you think I was completely focused on this amazing thing that was happening that brought me a tonne of joy?

I'm not saying be sad about it. I'm saying own up to what the games objectively are, which is low-event hockey.

Pretending that there's a bunch of action going on is just silly. No, there aren't a lot of high danger scoring chances and no, there aren't a lot of spectacular saves. That's not what this product looks like. People aren't blind.

Nothing wrong with being happy about the outcome. As I said, Devils fans are fully justified in having fond memories of Dead Puck hockey. Isles fans are fully justified in being excited about their team right now. But you can't expect everyone to be excited about watching games that are just kind of dull. That's not reasonable to expect of neutral fans who really don't care which team wins, and just want to be entertained by the process.

 

[SlapshotTheMovie]

But if the Rangers were where the Islanders are now, with the same play style, would you be excited?

NOPE. I also have a long and public history of that (see the boston series that got torts fired) but lets say i didn't have an issue. Would you have an issue with rangers fans denying how f***ing awful and boring the team was and demanding other say the team isnt boring despite being boring?

 

[SlapshotTheMovie]

Why though? Their team is in the semi-finals. People here seem to have this notion that Islanders fans should feel bad.

It's a whole lot of "Well I can't shit on your teams success so.....lets go in this direction"

When the Jets were in the semi-finals against Vegas, do you think I gave 1 iota of a damn about what fans of other teams thought about our play style?

Or do you think I was completely focused on this amazing thing that was happening that brought me a tonne of joy?

Thats a huge f***ing no. Islanders are in the playoffs so people are watching them for once and going oh wow this teams boring. And then islanders fans run out and go full blown hissy fit. NO ONE GIVES A f*** ABOUT HOW ISLANDERS FANS FEEL. We just notice we cant talk about the islanders without them demanding we lie about how boring their team is.

 

[CupsOverCash]

I think that while their style is boring, I respect the hell out of them. They don't cheat, they take advantage of the others mistakes, and they work extremely hard. They make up for the lack of top end talent and have pretty good depth in that they dont just depend on Barzal. I think they would beat Dallas if they move on. Boring yea but effective and stingy as hell.

 

[Bronson]

Rather be boring than losing

 

[notDatsyuk]

Every point that was made in this “The Isles are not boring” thesis ended up reinforcing just how boring the Isles are.

Yes, we understand that your team didn't do well this year, so you have to find an excuse, but "Isles are boring" when all the top teams play similar structured hockey doesn't work very well. Sorry.

 

[IslesNorway]

The boring tag is just there because a few people have a hard time accepting that the perennial losers are now better than their team. Always an excuse needed.

 

[CantLoseWithMatthews]

I'm not saying be sad about it. I'm saying own up to what the games objectively are, which is low-event hockey.

Pretending that there's a bunch of action going on is just silly. No, there aren't a lot of high danger scoring chances and no, there aren't a lot of spectacular saves. That's not what this product looks like. People aren't blind.

Nothing wrong with being happy about the outcome. As I said, Devils fans are fully justified in having fond memories of Dead Puck hockey. Isles fans are fully justified in being excited about their team right now. But you can't expect everyone to be excited about watching games that are just kind of dull. That's not reasonable to expect of neutral fans who really don't care which team wins, and just want to be entertained by the process.

The Islanders are 5th in the playoffs in high danger chances/60. They do generate high danger chances. They just also give up the 10th fewest, so maybe it's the other teams who are to blame for not generating enough against the Islanders?

 

[notDatsyuk]

A non-playoff team .... A team that clearly didn't want to be there ... and a team that got to the 2nd round by beating a lottery team.

The islanders had one of the easiest walks to the Conference Final the NHL has seen in a very long time.

And your lame excuse for them having beaten Tampa twice in the last four games is....?

 

[notDatsyuk]

More wide-open ice play

So more mistakes, more bad plays.

Sounds like a guy who likes losers.

 

[Hunn]

Boring =/= not exiting. That 5OT was quite uneventful (boring), but probably one of the most exiting game of this postseason.

And vise versa: TML coming back from 0:3 against CBJ in dying minutes was very exiting, but boring because both teams were bad.

 

[notDatsyuk]

Again -- what makes you think I have some sort of hate on for the Islanders but not for Dallas or Tampa?

The fact of the matter is that the Islanders stick out as this year's equivalent to the late-90s Devils. Of course Devils fans have fond memories of that period, they probably enjoyed every minute of it and rightfully so. The rest of the hockey world watched first in boredom and then in horror at the direction the NHL took during that period. That is also a completely fair, valid perspective on what was without question a featureless and un-entertaining style of play.

If you're going to be that team, at least own up to it. You're certainly not going to convince people to be entertained by what is objectively low-event hockey.

I guess it depends on what you consider 'events'. Lots of hits, turnovers, blocks. Not so many low quality shots and easy saves. No lopsided scores, but lots of tight, close games decided late.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Yes, we understand that your team didn't do well this year, so you have to find an excuse, but "Isles are boring" when all the top teams play similar structured hockey doesn't work very well. Sorry.

How is it an excuse in any way?

My team’s biggest flaw is goaltending. Imagine me sitting here lecturing people that the Canes actually have great goaltending, but plebeian fans don’t appreciate it because they’re so jealous.

 

[The Sweetness]

OP is the only person who has yet to realize a hockey team can very good at winning games while still playing incredibly boring hockey.

The Isles are they team.

And it goes without saying that I’m sure most neutrals would happily be in the Isles situation. But it doesn’t make their brand of hockey entertaining. A game of Yahtzee was vastly more exciting than watching them play game 5 in the conference finals despite the fact I’m a huge hockey fan.

 

[A Pointed Stick]

Thats a huge f***ing no. Islanders are in the playoffs so people are watching them for once and going oh wow this teams boring. And then islanders fans run out and go full blown hissy fit. NO ONE GIVES A f*** ABOUT HOW ISLANDERS FANS FEEL. We just notice we cant talk about the islanders without them demanding we lie about how boring their team is.

I don’t know when the rule for enjoying hockey became that every game must be riverboat gambling for 60 minutes but you’d think that’s the case with the way so many people are now complaining about a defense oriented club. No one wants a league full of teams grabbing, clutching, and trapping. That made the league dull in the 90s. We don’t have that now though. Now there is a full spectrum clubs from five alarm offense to stick in the mud defense, along with generally physical to non physical clubs. Simply put the Islander fans you complain about are actually railing against this idea that they can’t be one of the defense oriented teams out there, like there is no choice but for every club now to go 1986 Oiler squad or you are breaking some unwritten law or code.

Our club is using conservative systems in the neutral and defensive zones. Other teams don’t. You do you, we do us. If a hockey fan can’t understand or respect this then too bad for them they can only appreciate part of the game.

 

[FourRings]

I think that while their style is boring, I respect the hell out of them. They don't cheat, they take advantage of the others mistakes, and they work extremely hard. They make up for the lack of top end talent and have pretty good depth in that they dont just depend on Barzal. I think they would beat Dallas if they move on. Boring yea but effective and stingy as hell.

This is a take I can get behind. Why should the Islanders play a style they don’t have the players for? Should they intentionally lose so that non-NYI fans are entertained? Their play style is dictated by their personnel. I’m pretty sure they would open things up a bit more had they landed Panarin.

 

[notDatsyuk]

How is it an excuse in any way?

My team’s biggest flaw is goaltending. Imagine me sitting here lecturing people that the Canes actually have great goaltending, but plebeian fans don’t appreciate it because they’re so jealous.

Why is it that only fans of the teams that can't play structured hockey call it boring?

A much better analogy would be if you had a great goalie who stopped everything, and made it look easy, and other fan bases complained that all the shutouts were boring.

All four teams in the conference finals play similar, structured hockey.

Why is it only this Isles that are boring?

 

[Fatass]

Islanders are extremely well coached, which is kind of a euphemism for boring to watch.

 

[tarheelhockey]

Why is it that only fans of the teams that can't play structured hockey call it boring?

A much better analogy would be if you had a great goalie who stopped everything, and made it look easy, and other fan based complained that all the shutouts were boring.

All four teams in the conference finals play similar, structured hockey.

Why is it only this Isles that are boring?

Your premise is that only fans of a limited number of specific teams find this style of hockey boring.

I reject the premise.

 

[SlapshotTheMovie]

I don’t know when the rule for enjoying hockey became that every game must be riverboat gambling for 60 minutes but you’d think that’s the case with the way so many people are now complaining about a defense oriented club. No one wants a league full of teams grabbing, clutching, and trapping. That made the league dull in the 90s. We don’t have that now though. Now there is a full spectrum clubs from five alarm offense to stick in the mud defense, along with generally physical to non physical clubs. Simply put the Islander fans you complain about are actually railing against this idea that they can’t be one of the defense oriented teams out there, like there is no choice but for every club now to go 1986 Oiler squad or you are breaking some unwritten law or code.

Our club is using conservative systems in the neutral and defensive zones. Other teams don’t. You do you, we do us. If a hockey fan can’t understand or respect this then too bad for them they can only appreciate part of the game.

WHO THE f*** IS SAYING YOUR TEAM CANT EXIST? Your boring. This is a hockey forum. We talk about current events and past events in hockey. Currently their are 3 teams playing hockey. One of them is the most boring team in YEARS. We are trying to talk about it but some people cant handle that.

 

[A Pointed Stick]

The Islanders are 5th in the playoffs in high danger chances/60. They do generate high danger chances. They just also give up the 10th fewest, so maybe it's the other teams who are to blame for not generating enough against the Islanders?

I agree with you but as an Islander fan I can say last game for most other fans not following Tampa or the Isles was boring. For Tampa and Islander fans it was over eighty minutes of extreme stress. Haha! The good news is most of our games have been entertaining. The boring label is pretty lazy. Even if all you do is glance at the scores a fan would notice few games of the 2-1 variety.