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Other Sports: NCAA Thread v12
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LegionOfDoom91
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I’m sure or not if Franklin & Penn State’s ceilings are one and the same unfortunately now a days.
When you recruit in a top 10-15 range every year there’s noticeable gap between that & the true elites in college football. Obviously Clemson & Michigan did it as outliers but everybody else in recent decades did it sitting in the top 3-5 range.
But you could beat Ohio State every once in awhile. I don’t think that’s an outrageous ask.
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FLYguy3911
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JojoTheWhale
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The AFLAC trivia question just assaulted me personally.
*Edit* The Pavia > Freeze bit might be my favorite ever. I'm so happy it continues.
*Edit* The Pavia > Freeze bit might be my favorite ever. I'm so happy it continues.
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FLYguy3911
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JojoTheWhale
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What the hell is Texas Tech doing? They only managed to take 40 seconds off the clock with that drive.
The broadcast reminding me that Fromm was a thing has turned out to be a useful tool for my sanity. It can always be worse than it currently is.
The broadcast reminding me that Fromm was a thing has turned out to be a useful tool for my sanity. It can always be worse than it currently is.
FatTugboatFlahr
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My family was losing it today. Think just about every PSU fan I know is ready for Baldy to hit the road.
flyershockey
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LegionOfDoom91
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The at large picture took a bit of a hit yesterday as well. A&M & Clemson’s playoff hopes are on life support now.
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A&M and Clemson came into yesterday playing really good football. Those 2 games were shocking as hell.
JojoTheWhale
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I get it completely. What I worry about is not just who would replace him, but who would make that decision...
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LegionOfDoom91
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It’s not gonna happen any time soon. I don’t think his buyout number is feasible for at least the next few years.
I don’t think the administration is anywhere close to firing him anyway. He probably overall hits their threshold & they don’t have to pay top tier money like other big programs. Like if they were investing Ohio State money & having top three rosters on a yearly basis then yeah that sentiment might change with them.
This is part of the reason Paterno lasted as long as he did. Granted that was on the more extreme end of financial savings but it still instilled the idea that they don’t have to pay the top tier rate to run a program which is probably never going away unfortunately.
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flyershockey
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Yeah, Clemson in in trouble. Provided Miami and SMU win out, there's no likely path for them to get in. They'll be a two-loss team that did not play in their conference championship game. A&M still has a viable path to Atlanta. It'll come down to that last game against Texas.
Despite moving to 12 teams, it really only feels like three teams are safely in the picture right now, Oregon, Miami and Penn State (weirdly enough). The SEC schools are going to continue to play each other (Texas/Texas A&M, Georgia/Tennessee and LSU/Alabama), so there's still some losses coming for the top schools there. The Big 12 is trending towards one team. I don't think a one loss BYU team gets in, so they need to run the table and win the conference to safely make it. Notre Dame is in if they run the table. The committee is not going to let that ratings machine miss. It'll get interesting if they lose again, because they have clearly the worst loss among the playoff contenders.
If I had to take a guess at the playoff breakdown while looking ahead at schedules, I'd go with 3 SEC teams, 4 B1G teams, Notre Dame, 1 G5, 2 ACC teams and 1 Big 12 team.
LegionOfDoom91
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Granted all & all they still had an opportunity despite everything going against them offensively with those two goal line trips where they got zero points.
But rewatching the game some Ohio State basically dared their outside receivers to have to go & make plays to win with one on one situations. Which they couldn’t. Harrison Wallace is decent but realistically he’s probably a secondary or depth option at most other schools within the top ten.
I think they have improved this year & the scheme has helped but ultimately when you play a team like Ohio State your true talent level there comes to roost.
I don’t know where the quicker fix is either because you’re not too keen on throwing money around in the portal. So that’s how you end up with Julien Fleming’s of the world who are more of the same with what you have.
OL wasn’t great either but I’m more hopeful there given what they’ve recruited in the last few years where there’s been a noticeable uptick in the caliber of players they’re getting (most of them are just first & second year players this year). I don’t think Singleton has been healthy for like a month now which I think is a noteworthy cause to their run game losing steam.
But rewatching the game some Ohio State basically dared their outside receivers to have to go & make plays to win with one on one situations. Which they couldn’t. Harrison Wallace is decent but realistically he’s probably a secondary or depth option at most other schools within the top ten.
I think they have improved this year & the scheme has helped but ultimately when you play a team like Ohio State your true talent level there comes to roost.
I don’t know where the quicker fix is either because you’re not too keen on throwing money around in the portal. So that’s how you end up with Julien Fleming’s of the world who are more of the same with what you have.
OL wasn’t great either but I’m more hopeful there given what they’ve recruited in the last few years where there’s been a noticeable uptick in the caliber of players they’re getting (most of them are just first & second year players this year). I don’t think Singleton has been healthy for like a month now which I think is a noteworthy cause to their run game losing steam.
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JojoTheWhale
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There's always the chance they go with Clemson on name value alone, but I think we might be at the point where the only way 2 ACC teams get in is undefeated Miami losing to SMU/Clemson in the title game.
A 2 loss Clemson who doesn't even make ACC Championship game is the exact team I personally have no interest in ever making the playoffs, so it could always be bias. But I think we know enough to say they're not a top tier program anymore. Very different animal to me from keeping out a similar profile for a Bama or Ohio St. I can at least see those arguments even if I ultimately disagree.
LegionOfDoom91
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Clemson honestly might have one more loss in them still with the way their schedule finishes. They got Virginia Tech, Pitt, & South Carolina left for three of their remaining four games. Citadel is the other game.
JojoTheWhale
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I’m going to hate many things this dopey committee does, but I very much appreciate dropping Clemson a further 4 spots than the AP poll did.
Chinatown88
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LegionOfDoom91
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God I’d love a Penn State/Notre Dame matchup. My whole family sans me & my dad are Notre Dame fans.
