Injury Report: The Injury Thread || Stolarz out 4-6 weeks

[supermann_98]

THis is EXACTLY why we resigned Matt Murray....best 3rd goalie in the NHL

He's the best 3rd goalie on his team in the AHL

 

[Dekes For Days]

That's brutal. I don't know why Berube was saying it was good news then.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Hildeby, or whoever, is going to have to play in games that are not a back-to-back also. Gotta protect Woll.

 

[thewave]

4 to 6 and he has been out a week. Ouch. They never rush tenders so let's just call it 8 weeks.

 

[nuck]

Ouch. MVP so far this year. Can Woll stay healthy for 6 weeks?

 

[kevsh]

Over/Under on how long before Hildeby & Murray are the Leafs tandem?
I mean, it's a given Woll's not going to be able to stay healthy as the starter for 4-6 weeks right?

 

[Jojalu]

Has Stolartz ever actually been injury prone?

Yes. He has a long history of knee issues

 

[Evilhomer]

Yes. He has a long history of knee issues

Ah, I didn't know that.

4 to 6 and he has been out a week. Ouch. They never rush tenders so let's just call it 8 weeks.

The bright side is that should include the break for this stupid 4 nations thing.

 

[Aashir Mallik]

He was just average. Not sure what's hard to replicate for what he did. And he was bad with the Marlies. He was fine as a 3rd stringer and for his skill level he did well all things considered, sure.

He now remains unsigned this season.

it for sure was a lightning in a bottle situation and not replicable, but when our goalies went down he was very good, he fell off towards the end but through the time he played consistently and even played both b2b games he was:

9-6-1 with a .911 and 2.41

after that he barely played and sometimes went a whole month without playing. he was above average in his NHL time for us, now that doesn't mean I want him on the team as even a 3rd stringer because I doubt he does that again, I was just pointing out that it seems like he was a solid safetly net that we don't have anymore and having hildeby thrown in their when he isn't ready will do more harm than good.

 

[wingman75]

Ouch. MVP so far this year. Can Woll stay healthy for 6 weeks?

We'd better hope so. Cause if not, yikes!

 

[Mess]

This is a big hit...

Leafs managed without Auston but Stolarz might make for a more difficult time.

 

[trellaine201]

Yikes

 

[mikeyz]

Okay doctors of hfboards. Or the people who play doctors on the net. What in the actual f*** is a "loose body in a knee"?

Explain to me like I am 5. Lol.

 

[Jmo89]

Knee - Loose Body Removal - AOA Orthopedic Specialists

A minimally invasive procedure, surgeons perform loose body removal to remove fragments of bone, cartilage, or other loose tissue from the knee joint. Loose bodies can cause a patient a great deal of pain and discomfort with movement and even at rest.

www.arlingtonortho.com

LOOSE BODY REMOVAL

A minimally invasive procedure, surgeons perform loose body removal to remove fragments of bone, cartilage, or other loose tissue from the knee joint. Loose bodies can cause a patient a great deal of pain and discomfort with movement and even at rest. Often, loose bodies form from previous injuries to the knee joint or degenerative arthritis of the knee over time. Loose bodies may also derive from scar tissue following previous surgeries of the knee. Surgeons may also perform loose body removal during joint arthroscopy to treat many knee conditions including torn meniscus, osteochrondritis dissecans, or recurrent patella dislocation.

SYMPTOMS OF LOOSE BODIES IN THE KNEE

Individuals who participate in recreational activities or work in physically rigorous jobs put themselves at risk for developing loose bodies in the knee. Patients suffering from loose bodies may not have the ability to fully flex or extend the leg without pain. All patients process pain differently so symptoms may vary. Many patients suffering from loose bodies within the knee joint often report symptoms of:

• Knee pain

• Knee swelling

• Pain with movement

• Catching or locking of the knee

Didn't he have past knee surgeries? Probably a good thing if it was just some scar tissue left over from a past procedure.

 

[ToneDog]

4 to 6 and he has been out a week. Ouch. They never rush tenders so let's just call it 8 weeks.

What are the Vegas odds Woll gets injured with the heavier workload? Imagine a tandem of Murray and Beast or Beast and AA if Murray suffers another injury.

 

[Confucius]

He described it the procedure was to remove a "loose body". So probably some form of blood clot? No idea though.

Could be a bone spur.

I had one in my ankle, very painful similar to getting jabbed with a dull needle I couldn’t prepare for it because I,d just randomly get jabbed about every 10th step. Thankfully after about a month it adhered to my skeleton and that ,was it all cured.

 

[Stephen]

Maybe one of the D’s in DTD actually stands for “dead.” At least in Leaf Land anyway.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Over/Under on how long before Hildeby & Murray are the Leafs tandem?
I mean, it's a given Woll's not going to be able to stay healthy as the starter for 4-6 weeks right?

I don't think that happens, if Woll goes down Treliving is going to have to go get a goalie because last time I checked Matt Murray was hurt, Hildeby is already up.

If Woll gets hurt there is literally not enough goalies in the organisation

 

[ponder]

Okay doctors of hfboards. Or the people who play doctors on the net. What in the actual f*** is a "loose body in a knee"?

Explain to me like I am 5. Lol.

It's a small piece of bone or cartilage that got dislodged, and is now floating loose in the knee joint, causing pain. It's normally due to a past knee injury or arthritis - likely past knee injury for Stolarz. The surgery to remove loose bodies is pretty straightforward and minor, arthroscopic knee surgery - small incision, get a teeny camera in there, remove the loose bodies. But the greater concern is that it can be a sign of greater knee problems that will become increasingly bad issues longterm. For example, a decently common pattern among athletes is:

• Have an initial knee injury (often something like an ACL or MCL tear), that causes the initial damage. Stolarz in the past had surgery to repair an MCL tear in his right knee, and a torn meniscus in his left knee (two different injuries in 2017)
• Initial knee injury causes meniscus damage, and meniscus damage never 100% heals. Then you get problems like loose bodies, as a little bit of your damaged meniscus breaks free
• Over time, if you lose too much meniscus, you get persistent knee pain and mobility issues, and probably eventually arthritis

This is super common and career impacting for NBA players, though less so for NHL players, hockey is generally easier on the knees than basketball. Hopefully for Stolarz it's not too bad, and for this particular flare up he'll probably be fine for the rest of the seasons once he returns, but it's concerning longterm. It's not "definitely big longterm problems," but certainly "maybe big longterm problems," especially since this is already his 3rd knee surgery, at 30.

 

[Legion34]

He's the best 3rd goalie on his team in the AHL

He has like 1 2.15 gaa in 7 games. His stats look good

 

[ULF_55]

How quickly did a day-to-day injury become 4-6 weeks?

Does the medical staff know what they're doing?

It's the best goal tending we've had in decades and this happens to Stolarz!!!

FFS, our Leafs are surely CURSED!!!

28 to 42 days.

 

[Confucius]

It's a small piece of bone or cartilage that got dislodged, and is now floating loose in the knee joint, causing pain. It's normally due to a past knee injury or arthritis - likely past knee injury for Stolarz. The surgery to remove loose bodies is pretty straightforward and minor, arthroscopic knee surgery - small incision, get a teeny camera in there, remove the loose bodies. But the greater concern is that it can be a sign of greater knee problems that will become increasingly bad issues longterm. For example, a decently common pattern among athletes is:

• Have an initial knee injury (often something like an ACL or MCL tear), that causes the initial damage. Stolarz has had this, and has had multiple knee surgeries in the past
• That causes problems like tears to your meniscus, which is a sort of cartilage padding in your knee joint between the bones, and meniscus damage never really fully heals
• Then you get problems like loose bodies, as a little bit of your damaged meniscus breaks free
• Over time, if you lose too much meniscus, you get persistent knee pain and mobility issues, and probably eventually arthritis

Hopefully not that bad for Stolarz, and for this particular flare up he'll probably be fine once he returns, but it's concerning longterm.

Yeah I’d guess that, could be difficult to find although I’m pretty sure Stolarz would have the very best surgeon. It was explained to me that my surgeon could cause more damage hunting for the thing. Similar to having a piece of sawdust in your eye the fragment doesn’t have to be very big to cause pain.

 

[Divine]

He's the best 3rd goalie on his team in the AHL

No, that's Hildeby.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Yeah I’d guess that, could be difficult to find although I’m pretty sure Stolarz would have the very best surgeon. It was explained to me that my surgeon could cause more damage hunting for the thing. Similar to having a piece of sawdust in your eye the fragment doesn’t have to be very big to cause pain.

This your surgeon?

 

[Confucius]

This your surgeon?

Lol

Actually my surgeon was great. I fell out a truck and my ankle needed 9 screws and a steel plate in order to repair it. When two guys picked me up and carried me to a chair my foot was swinging back and forth like the pendulum on a grandfather clock. The ankle was the size of a football about 5 minutes later. Anyway I,ve ran 2 marathons on it and the ankle is 100%.