Post-Game Talk: The Habs played? San Jose scored 4 in the Bell Centre, so they must have.

[Durvann]

Dadonov is playing not to be touched, infuriating to see him steer away from contact all the time. It's way worse that Tatar used to do.

We need to:
- Hope Hoffman comes back and keeps playing decent
- Keep Gally with Dvorak.
- Consider dressing Pitlick
- Showcase Anderson and Monahan with someone other than Armia and sell
- Sell Eddy before he devaluates
- Keep Savard / Matheson (obviously)
- Play Xhekaj more, and in offensive opportunites
- Fix the powerplay
- Dress Pezetta no more than 1/4 games ideally
- Tell Price to stop using those red pads

 

[Habs]

well it’s about time they lost, lol. Bedard dive still alive.
Even in a snooze fest loss this club is fun to watch, lol
Cheers

tonight was another reminder of just how soft this team is though, and to top it all off he sits out Arbs lol. Cole, Suzuki, Dach, Gallagher, Armia... Harris, Kovbustavic.. good god this team needs some jam out there especially the bottom two lines. I mean if you are going to have that talented first line, at least your other lines have to drive the play with puck separation and hits.. a little energy out there. Besides Pez, who on the bottom 2 lines is making any noise out there? Anderson looks really uninterested, Armia is brain dead, Gallagher is washed up and usually hits the boards by accident.

There's nothing past line one and Matheson sucks balls out there when he doesn't have the puck lol

 

[admiralcadillac]

tonight was another reminder of just how soft this team is though, and to top it all off he sits out Arbs lol. Cole, Suzuki, Dach, Gallagher, Armia... Harris, Kovbustavic.. good god this team needs some jam out there especially the bottom two lines. I mean if you are going to have that talented first line, at least your other lines have to drive the play with puck separation and hits.. a little energy out there. Besides Pez, who on the bottom 2 lines is making any noise out there? Anderson looks really uninterested, Armia is brain dead, Gallagher is washed up and usually hits the boards by accident.

There's nothing past line one and Matheson sucks balls out there when he doesn't have the puck lol

Do you come out only for the losses? I think so.

Kovbustsevic? Really?

 

[Belial]

tonight was another reminder of just how soft this team is though, and to top it all off he sits out Arbs lol. Cole, Suzuki, Dach, Gallagher, Armia... Harris, Kovbustavic.. good god this team needs some jam out there especially the bottom two lines. I mean if you are going to have that talented first line, at least your other lines have to drive the play with puck separation and hits.. a little energy out there. Besides Pez, who on the bottom 2 lines is making any noise out there? Anderson looks really uninterested, Armia is brain dead, Gallagher is washed up and usually hits the boards by accident.

There's nothing past line one and Matheson sucks balls out there when he doesn't have the puck lol

Your obsession with toughness is really reaching legendary proportions...

It's like you've been stuck in the 70's while we're in 2022...

This team needs more skilled players to be able to score on the PP not more f***ing Pezzettas that can't make a tape-to-tape pass or hit the net from 5 feet!

 

[Kimota]

Dammit Allen you idiot, you're supposed to play good so we can move you.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

Your obsession with toughness is really reaching legendary proportions...

It's like you've been stuck in the 70's while we're in 2022...

This team needs more skilled players to be able to score on the PP not more f***ing Pezzettas that can't make a tape-to-tape pass or hit the net from 5 feet!

He's not wrong, and neither are you. We do need more jam from the bottom 6, a lot more to be honest. And Pezzetta isn't a good example because he hasn't been doing that this year, and has proven to be an awful tough guy at the NHL level. I used to like Armia, but I yell at the television every time he's on the ice floating around now. We could really use a player that stirs the drink out there, a Brendan Lemieux type to stir things up. Keep the opponents on their toes instead of just going through the motions, game in and game out.

We also definitely need more talent. But at least we have a top line and some PPG players now. Hughes is slowly re-making the team into what he wants. The key point will be the trade deadline and off season when he can shed some salary and contracts.

 

[Belial]

He's not wrong, and neither are you. We do need more jam from the bottom 6, a lot more to be honest. And Pezzetta isn't a good example because he hasn't been doing that this year, and has proven to be an awful tough guy at the NHL level. I used to like Armia, but I yell at the television every time he's on the ice floating around now. We could really use a player that stirs the drink out there, a Brendan Lemieux type to stir things up. Keep the opponents on their toes instead of just going through the motions, game in and game out.

We also definitely need more talent. But at least we have a top line and some PPG players now. Hughes is slowly re-making the team into what he wants. The key point will be the trade deadline and off season when he can shed some salary and contracts.

The tough guys era is dead!

Xhekaj stepped into the league as a rookie and he's already probably in the top 5 of the toughest dudes in the league...

Reaves is on his way out...

The fourth lines are no more used to just hit and stir shit on the ice.

Ideally, you'd have a fourth line that can actually play hockey and not just kill time on the clock.

 

[Whalers Fan]

December is a-coming

 

[Beendair Donedat]

The tough guys era is dead!

Xhekaj stepped into the league as a rookie and he's already probably in the top 5 of the toughest dudes in the league...

Reaves is on his way out...

The fourth lines are no more used to just hit and stir shit on the ice.

Ideally, you'd have a fourth line that can actually play hockey and not just kill time on the clock.

If you think that toughness isn't a factor in games anymore, I don't know what to tell you, and you certainly haven't been watching this team get pushed around for the better part of 3 decades.

The rest of your post is all over the place, but feel free to watch the good teams. They always carry guys that can handle the rough stuff. There's a reason for that, it still has a place in hockey. As it should.

Ask the Leafs if they think toughness is or isn't a factor.

 

[Belial]

If you think that toughness isn't a factor in games anymore, I don't know what to tell you, and you certainly haven't been watching this team get pushed around for the better part of 3 decades.

The rest of your post is all over the place, but feel free to watch the good teams. They always carry guys that can handle the rough stuff. There's a reason for that, it still has a place in hockey. As it should.

Ask the Leafs if they think toughness is or isn't a factor.

I never said toughness is not part of the game, but you need team toughness and not one guy that can't play hockey and is there just because he can drop em.

 

[Habs]

Your obsession with toughness is really reaching legendary proportions...

It's like you've been stuck in the 70's while we're in 2022...

This team needs more skilled players to be able to score on the PP not more f***ing Pezzettas that can't make a tape-to-tape pass or hit the net from 5 feet!

Pez isn't tough, he just skates around with no agenda at all. When I say 'toughness' I mean people that can drive the play and create room. Look at tonight, another example of how we struggle to open up the ice when our bigger players create zero room out there. Oh and nothing has changed since the 70's, small skilled teams will NEVER make it in the NHL and the last 30 years in this franchise only prove my point. Bergevin got much BIGGER for that playoff run, and it paid off. That was a big heavy team that created a ton of room for the smaller skilled players to open up. If you haven't noticed, all our offense is from 'smallish' players that do not play a physical game. If you really think this team can rebuild on this formula, you are mistaken, it will never happen. Its why we sucked through the Koivu, Gionta years, teams full of soft players that never create room out there.

Dach and Monohan are not physical, that is not their game. You need effective 2 way players to support the bottom lines, we don't have that. Armia, Drouin, Pez, Gallagher, Evans.. are totally incapable of driving the play, we have one line that can do it.

Its funny you think the game has changed that much, it hasn't. You need your bottom lines to play a certain brand of hockey, and they have to do it well and contribute. Running another year with soft small lines 3 and 4 is going to set the rebuild back years and years. If Anderson, Armia and Pez could play with any consistency it would solve a lot of issues, but they are NOT.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

I never said toughness is not part of the game, but you need team toughness and not one guy that can't play hockey and is there just because he can drop em.

And I never said that you need one guy that can't play.

 

[Habs]

If you think that toughness isn't a factor in games anymore, I don't know what to tell you, and you certainly haven't been watching this team get pushed around for the better part of 3 decades.

The rest of your post is all over the place, but feel free to watch the good teams. They always carry guys that can handle the rough stuff. There's a reason for that, it still has a place in hockey. As it should.

Ask the Leafs if they think toughness is or isn't a factor.

They just don't get it, they wan't small players that turn the other cheek and go really fast out there, and get smoked all over the ice. Can't wait for another 300 plus man games lost because all the smurfs got hurt, once again. God , imagine another 15 years of this insane mentality of smurf , non-physical teams , its sad some people think its somehow a winning formula, but it hasn't won this team a single thing in what.. 2.5 decades lol. Bring back the Giontas, Petrovs and Gomez with a Desharnais for good measure, that will do it because they were fast.

 

[Belial]

Pez isn't tough, he just skates around with no agenda at all. When I say 'toughness' I mean people that can drive the play and create room. Look at tonight, another example of how we struggle to open up the ice when our bigger players create zero room out there. Oh and nothing has changed since the 70's, small skilled teams will NEVER make it in the NHL and the last 30 years in this franchise only prove my point. Bergevin got much BIGGER for that playoff run, and it paid off. That was a big heavy team that created a ton of room for the smaller skilled players to open up. If you haven't noticed, all our offense is from 'smallish' players that do not play a physical game. If you really think this team can rebuild on this formula, you are mistaken, it will never happen. Its why we sucked through the Koivu, Gionta years, teams full of soft players that never create room out there.

Dach and Monohan are not physical, that is not their game. You need effective 2 way players to support the bottom lines, we don't have that. Armia, Drouin, Pez, Gallagher, Evans.. are totally incapable of driving the play, we have one line that can do it.

Its funny you think the game has changed that much, it hasn't. You need your bottom lines to play a certain brand of hockey, and they have to do it well and contribute. Running another year with soft small lines 3 and 4 is going to set the rebuild back years and years. If Anderson, Armia and Pez could play with any consistency it would solve a lot of issues, but they are NOT.

I honestly think the real problem is that you don't really watch other teams play.

And the way you talk it's like this team gets physically dominated night in and night out!

Dach and Monahan might not be physical but they will not shy from contact and who exactly on this team right now is really avoiding contact in your opinion?

I understand that you would love to be the aggressor but you're not necessarily soft if you're not the aggressor.

I'm not seeing us being physically dominated or intimidated out there!

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

Marty being a total loser by refusing to scratch the garbage vets and instead scratching the kids that are making a difference out there. This loss looks good on him, hope he loses sleep. Dadanov lol, Gallagher, Armia... hahahahah oh and Jake Allen after Montey has been playing lights out. Just a brutal coaching move once again by 'Rudy'

I will repeat this , Martin St Louis has done 0 change since he arrived. The only that changed was Caufield blooming. It if was not the case , the team would probably be in the bottom 3 at this moment.

Same stupid powerplay strategy for 3 years now.
Not enough balls to sit a Veteran. The blues sure did with Edmundson in their playoff cup run.
Keeps rotting a 1st overall on the fourth line over f***ing Dadonov whos a god damn cap dump who nobody will ever think again when hes gone.

''The team sucks , bla bla bla it's not his fault.'' excuses are enough. Im pretty dissapointed by his coaching style. If it was not for the first line carrying the entire team , People would think Ducharme is still behind the bench.

They still use that god damn stupid back pass to enter the zone on the PP , like f*** off.

Also that Defensive squad got even worse since Edmundson and Matheson cameback.

Also im laughing at people who still thinks Pittsburgh did not fleece us in that Petry trade , just looking at that thread , people said we finally got a PP QB who skates fast.



Make some f***ing changes and put some freaking veterans in the hot-dog seats!

/rant

 

[Belial]

Make some f***ing changes and put some freaking veterans in the hot-dog seats!

Who are you talking about exactly?

 

[Runner77]

I will repeat this , Martin St Louis has done 0 change since he arrived. The only that changed was Caufield blooming. It if was not the case , the team would probably be in the bottom 3 at this moment.

Same stupid powerplay strategy for 3 years now.
Not enough balls to sit a Veteran. The blues sure did with Edmundson in their playoff cup run.
Keeps rotting a 1st overall on the fourth line over f***ing Dadonov whos a god damn cap dump who nobody will ever think again when hes gone.

''The team sucks , bla bla bla it's not his fault.'' excuses are enough. Im pretty dissapointed by his coaching style. If it was not for the first line carrying the entire team , People would think Ducharme is still behind the bench.

They still use that god damn stupid back pass to enter the zone on the PP , like f*** off.

Also that Defensive squad got even worse since Edmundson and Matheson cameback.

Also im laughing at people who still thinks Pittsburgh did not fleece us in that Petry trade , just looking at that thread , people said we finally got a PP QB who skates fast.



Make some f***ing changes and put some freaking veterans in the hot-dog seats!

/rant

I don’t get the obsession with Dadonov, either. He’ll never come close to his career highs and even if he bounces back a little, what’s he going to fetch, a 5-6th rounder?

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I don’t get the obsession with Dadonov, either. He’ll never come close to his career highs and even if he bounces back a little, what’s he going to fetch, a 5-6th rounder?

He should legit be in the AHL at this moment waived. Dude has no purpose in the NHL in 2022.

Who are you talking about exactly?

Look at the people who was on the ice tonight and just taKe any vets on it. Except Anderson and Monahan.

 

[HuGort]

Funny how this team's management talks about developing younger players being a priority, yet continues to start Jake Allen.

Allen=Red Light Racicot

Play Montembeault, let him see a lot of rubber, find out what we have in him.

 

[nhlfan9191]

The tough guys era is dead!

Xhekaj stepped into the league as a rookie and he's already probably in the top 5 of the toughest dudes in the league...

Reaves is on his way out...

The fourth lines are no more used to just hit and stir shit on the ice.

Ideally, you'd have a fourth line that can actually play hockey and not just kill time on the clock.

You can’t run 4 skill lines. The opposing team would eat you alive in line matching if you tried it. Very rare you will find a team like Tampa that can afford to have a Coleman-Goodrow-Gourde third line but for the most part your bottom 6 is filled with role players. That hasn’t changed regardless of if the toothless enforcers have gone exstinct.

 

[Belial]

Look at the people who was on the ice tonight and just taKe any vets on it. Except Anderson and Monahan.

This is not EA Sports man...

 

[Belial]

You can’t run 4 skill lines. The opposing team would eat you alive in line matching if you tried it. Very rare you will find a team like Tampa that can afford to have a Coleman-Goodrow-Gourde third line but for the most part your bottom 6 is filled with role players. That hasn’t changed regardless of if the toothless enforcers have gone exstinct.

You definitely can run 4 skilled lines as long as they are defensively responsible.

I mean what's the plan here with Evans centering the fourth line?

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

This is not EA Sports man...

Nothing to do with it. Some veterans need to take a seat in the stand for a couple of games because they are playing like pee-wees.

Kids are not the one who should always be blamed.

 

[Beendair Donedat]

You definitely can run 4 skilled lines as long as they are defensively responsible.

I mean what's the plan here with Evans centering the fourth line?

Evans was a Bergevin addition, and his "throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks" theory never worked. Sure he added some great pieces, and made some terrific trades, but Bergevin's problem always was that he was never able to pick a lane and stick with it... His idea of team building was Carey Price plays like the best goalie on the planet and hope for the best. Evans doesn't really fit with the makeup of this team and continues to look very ineffective in his role.
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[Belial]

Evans was a Bergevin addition, and his "throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks" theory never worked. Sure he added some great pieces, and made some terrific trades, but Bergevin's problem always was that he was never able to pick a lane and stick with it... His idea of team building was Carey Price plays like the best goalie on the planet and hope for the best. Evans doesn't really fit with the makeup of this team and continues to look very ineffective in his role.
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I have no idea why this is about Bergevin again...

Evans is a decent player.

But my point was that if you have Evans as your fourth-line center then you have to give him skill on wings because he's not a bruiser/tough center whatsoever.

Pezzetta makes no sense on that line.

Bring Pitlick back or Richard or Ylonen or Simoneau instead of Pez for god sake!