Speculation: The Goalie Situation

[Richard88]

From 32 Thoughts on goalies:

13. That said, when it comes to waivers, everyone’s waiting on the goalies. Teams to watch: Buffalo (Eric Comrie or Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen); Detroit (Alex Lyon and James Reimer); Montreal (Cayden Primeau); Philadelphia (Felix Sandstrom); Toronto (Martin Jones). Some teams say they might carry three goalies, but no one ever believes them until it actually happens.

Columbus claimed Spencer Martin. Colorado and Tampa Bay have short-term injury needs. (One executive mentioned St. Louis’s Malcolm Subban for the Lightning, because he was outstanding against their AHL team, Syracuse, in the playoffs.) Will Buffalo keep the veteran Comrie or the higher-ceiling of Luukkonen? (Comrie had a very good pre-season start against Pittsburgh.) Lyon saved Florida’s season late last year. The Red Wings got him with a guaranteed second year, would they risk it on waivers?

 

[Gigantor The Goalie]

Higher-ceiling of Luukkonen is certainly a sentence. Not an accurate one but a sentence nonetheless. Lyon, Primeau, Sandstrom are the goalies I'd be eyeing if I was a team looking for a goalie on the waivers. Comrie is too expensive, UPL I just don't think has the IQ to be a goalie, Jones is just bad and aging, Subban's best hope at becoming a NHL goalie again is being in Springfield.

 

[AvBuff]

You got to appreciate what an explosive element this Goalie situation is . . .

 

[MarkT]

I've updated the first post to reflect who has already passed through waivers. The remaining guys from the list are:
- Alex Lyon (DET)
- Cayden Primeau (MTL)
- Magnus Hellberg (PIT)
- Matt Tomkins (TB)

Our old friend Calvin Pickard (EDM) is also currently on waivers.

 

[tigervixxxen]

Would ya'll be comfortable trading a pick to secure the right goalie before they go on waivers, or would you just roll the dice that one to you like reaches the Avs in the waiver order?

Forgive me if I don't know who's waiver eligible and who isn't, but I am a big believer that top minutes in lower leagues are more beneficial than reduced minutes in a higher league. For example, I rather have Annunen in the AHL being able to start 40-50 games this season instead of being a bench warmer and playing once every 9-10 games. Wolf might be in a similar situation where a starter in the AHL is better than him playing second fiddle to Markstrom if they do decide to get rid of Vladar. Now, the question arises if these two are still not able to provide some consistent goaltending like last season, then Wolf can be called upon and given a legit chance in the pros. You want players to force you a spot and not be given it where I fully expect Wallstedt and Wolf ability to do just that.

Would ya'll be comfortable trading a pick to secure the right goalie before they go on waivers, or would you just roll the dice that one to you like reaches the Avs in the waiver order?

Only reason to trade for a waivers goalie is to stash them in the AHL, the Avs don’t need to do that.

Forgive me if I don't know who's waiver eligible and who isn't, but I am a big believer that top minutes in lower leagues are more beneficial than reduced minutes in a higher league. For example, I rather have Annunen in the AHL being able to start 40-50 games this season instead of being a bench warmer and playing once every 9-10 games. Wolf might be in a similar situation where a starter in the AHL is better than him playing second fiddle to Markstrom if they do decide to get rid of Vladar. Now, the question arises if these two are still not able to provide some consistent goaltending like last season, then Wolf can be called upon and given a legit chance in the pros. You want players to force you a spot and not be given it where I fully expect Wallstedt and Wolf ability to do just that

It doesn’t have to be either or. With Annunen’s last waiver exempt year you can move him freely around. There’s plenty of opportunity to send Annunen back for an AHL start when schedules allow or to swap him with Holm for a spell where he won’t be needed in the NHL. It’s a big advantage to have a NHL use goalie still on waiver exemption and they should take advantage of that. The reality of a guy just sitting around rotting away just isn’t true.

 

[Richard88]

Avs claim Prosvetov...

 

[Gigantor The Goalie]

Avs claim Prosvetov...

I'm a fan of this move

 

[Avs_19]

I'm a fan of this move

Then so am I!

For real though, is he good? Decent?

 

[UncleRisto]

Nooo Justus, noooo...

 

[Gigantor The Goalie]

Then so am I!

For real though, is he good? Decent?

Really like this move from the Avs. He fits into the profile of goalies the Avs like and currently fit into their defensive play. Prosvetov has the mobility, agility, and size combination the team will love. Shows he can be patient on his edges and has decent structure. He's done well toning down his play and playing within the crease rather than being an unmitigated scrambling mess. The Yotes did a good job getting him to take a jump last year, Parkkila should be able to get him ready to be the 2G here. Potentially for awhile too.

 

[Freudian]

After some googling, I can confirm that this guy isn't that Velmelka guy.

 

[Evgeny Oliker]

So Annunen was just sent to minors. Does that mean they want to have Prosvetov as backup this season?

 

[henchman21]

So Annunen was just sent to minors. Does that mean they want to have Prosvetov as backup this season?

Until there is clarity on Francouz, we don't truly know. The moves the Avs are currently making point to Frank being back at some point... and just holding down the fort right now. If Frank was ruled out, they'd likely be looking to grab a more proven backup.

 

[sethro109]

So Annunen was just sent to minors. Does that mean they want to have Prosvetov as backup this season?

Since Annunen has waiver protection, I bet the Avs move him up and down a lot this season. My guess is that Annunen is the backup and will start when they want Georgie to have a night off. Prosvetov will be the relief guy who comes in if Georgie get pulled or injured.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[arun]

Wouldnt mind getting him

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Avs claim Prosvetov...

Things not going well for Provy either

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Avs claim Prosvetov...

https://x.com/i/web/status/1819052255460688251

 

[Snow Arc]

Avs are so dumb sometimes

 

[Arto Kilponen]

I was thinking that don't we really have a goalie thread going, but finally found this.

So what do you think Colorado should do with each of Georgiev-Annunen-Kähkönen trio? And what do you think they will do? This week there's games vs. Tampa Bay on Wednesday and @ Nashville on Saturday.

To me the most clear things are:
1) Annunen wins the games he starts.
2) Georgiev is unable to save a 90 % game.
3) Kähkönen has to be brought up pretty soon from AHL.
4) Annunen has not played virtually ever against a contender (at end of last season against Oilers once)

I think Georgiev should go to AHL. But still I don't think Bednar has given up with Georgiev.

 

[Bone Breaker]

what needs to be done regarding Georgiev and Bednars love for him:

 

[Arto Kilponen]

Our team will be very successful if we just get .900 goaltending. Anything more is a bonus.

Georgie can't give us .900 goaltending. There's lots of guys out there that can.

(quoting this in another thread because I don't think your message has really anything to do with the Chicago-game specifically)

Georgiev has tried that now six times. Four times against a team that wasn't a playoff-team last year, once against a team that is ranked 21st in NHL right now and the remaining one was season opener where he decided it is the smartest approach to save the pucks with under 70 % certainty.

 

[Richard88]

CMac needs to find a taker for Georgiev and his $3.4m caphit. There's urgency as the team is carrying 3 goalies. In the meantime ride Annunen and Kahkonen until Gibson is healthy, then trade for him and make a decision on who to keep as backup between Annunen and Kahkonen.

 

[TruePowerSlave]

Gibson has awful numbers since the 19-20 season. Definitely a gamble if a trade were to happen.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Stop playing Georgiev