It's nuts.
Bean, Boqvist, Gudbranson, Korpisalo, etc... so many contracts that looked ridiculous to me the second they were signed.
Player Discussion: The Elvis Thread
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It's nuts.
Bean, Boqvist, Gudbranson, Korpisalo, etc... so many contracts that looked ridiculous to me the second they were signed.
Cyclones Rock
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Jarmo has managed to spend $181,000 less than the Colorado Avalanche on total NHL payroll.
I never imagined that $181,000 would make such a difference.
I never imagined that $181,000 would make such a difference.
ViD
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Yes, because it is the furthest from league minimum. Elvis at least was playing well when he was signed. I'm not sure what the rationale was for paying Korpi almost double the league minimum.
No, but because it's 5 years, M-NTC, and pretty expensive.
How is 1 year 1.3M contract for Korpi bad? I don't get it. The cap space is needed after that, not before. And those line spots are needed right now.
Out of the contracts you mentioned, only Gudbransson 4y contract looks genuinely bad for the team. Bean has only 2 years + is RFA, so it's win-win whether he pans out or not.
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Tommigun
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Merzlikins’s contract was worse even when it was signed. How can you guys say he was playing well? He’s always looked like a non-NHL player.
He had his moments and somewhat OK stats back then. After hot start early 20-21, he has not been good, and right now he is just awful.
Krispy
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So unfortunate, that bad goaltending holds back all this insane on ice talent CBJ has that I'm pretty sure even Colorado or Tampa is jealous of. 
Fair enough, but 1 year contract is just irrelevant. He is either on LTIR or plays or is waived or traded. Korpi's contract isn't any problem. Besides, even on his bad day and with injuries he didn't play worse than Elvis is doing right now.
I don't really think about contracts during the season but bloated contracts for marginal players sure did matter this summer.
Elvis is worth negative money, like Korpi was last year, so I'm not sure what that proves. In any case I have always rooted for Korpi and hope that the hip surgeries have taken care of the problem for him.
I know where you are going at, but I don't think it was the 1 year cap struggle that cost us Bjork. He simply didn't fit the long term TOP-6 plan anymore with Johnny, Laine, Johnson/Sillinger/Chinakov/Marchenko etc., and no way you pay 3rd line winger that money (edit: right now you pay for Voracek, Nyquist, but that was known transition phase that also got rid of Atkinson [longer term, afaik]).
Bean & Boquist are both promising-ish young-ish guys you should be able to get rid of if they don't fill their boots or if Jiricek/Mateychuk/Ceulemans get there relatively fast.
Besides, they needed either Bean & Boquist or similarly priced other D. It's the Gud deal that stinks, and not primarily for 4M, but that it's 4*4M.
Viqsi
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The booing is one thing but common and almost expected in sports. But threats and I’ll wishes against a player or worse yet their family is just intolerable and unforgivable
Viqsi
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Don't. Just don't. Pretending it didn't happen is almost as bad as participating in it. You're capable of better than that, regardless of your opinion of the guy.
If it actually gets to the point where specific fans start getting fingered without evidence, then this sort of analysis becomes appropriate. Until then, though, it's a wakeup call and one that shouldn't be dismissed, because otherwise that encourages folks to think they can get away with it.
Yeah, ok. Literally has nothing to do with my opinion on the guy. Now, I just have an opinion on his wife. It’s something I don’t think even the most ruthless of opposing fans say to opposing players to get them off their game.
I don’t look at the wife of a pro hockey player any better morally than I do the average hockey fan. I guess you do.
That’s to say, if you don’t think a (home team) fan wouldn’t say something ridiculously horrible like that out loud, in a public setting, inside the home arena, then I don’t think she wouldn’t lie about the same thing, to gain sympathy for herself and her husband.
CarolinaBlueJacket
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It is unconfirmed. That is not the same as saying it didn't happen. If it was said, of course it is a terrible thing to say. I assume this was at a game. If so, she should have notified security to have the offender escorted out. I am sure there would have been witnesses. What game, section, etc did this happen? Info is needed to find out who it was and if they are a STH, then tell them goodbye and don't ever come back.
I am not saying it didn't happen, but I have been around long enough to let all of the facts come out before I make a decision.
MissADD
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Naw. Relocate the fans doing this nonsense to a different team.
CBJWerenski8
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Merzlikins says 'a fan from Dallas' provoked him about death of Kivlenieks
Elvis Merzlikins said that a Dallas Stars fan taunted him by mentioning Matiss Kivlenieks, his late former teammate, as the Blue Jackets came out of the tunnel for the start of Monday's game in Columbus.
This literally happened one year ago. To the same player. At a home game (even though it was an opposing fan)
I admire the belief in humanity, but no, people have no filter or respect.
Merzlikins says 'a fan from Dallas' provoked him about death of Kivlenieks
Elvis Merzlikins said that a Dallas Stars fan taunted him by mentioning Matiss Kivlenieks, his late former teammate, as the Blue Jackets came out of the tunnel for the start of Monday's game in Columbus.www.sportsnet.ca
This literally happened one year ago. To the same player. At a home game (even though it was an opposing fan)
I admire the belief in humanity, but no, people have no filter or respect.
Never ever should happen. Period. And while Elvis’ wife not in my section, yes there are comments way over the line the last few games in my section. Multiple people. Beyond “Elvis sucks”. Not direct threats but could be taken that way, especially by those not as familiar with English language or pro sports culture in USA.
Losing badly has created toxic environment at NWA because expectations got raised with the hype around Johnny Hockey, etc., but the Laine injury derailed what appeared to be a momentum-building camp. Becomes easy to blame one player, the Goalie, rather than the multitude of reasons for poor results. Yes, Elvis has not been good. Neither has any other group of CBJ players…not one. It is a group funk. Yes Elvis has given up some exceedingly weak goals…and yet CBJ has scored 0 and 1 goal last 2 games. You don’t win hockey games, you aren’t even competitive in games if you can’t score. Add to that a sieve for a defense (that includes the goalies), and Elvis becomes a lightning rod because of his personality, his propensity to speak out and his recent post-game rant. And yet what he said wasn’t wrong, it was spot on, probably just the wrong messenger. Had Jenner said the same things, in the same tone, he’d be praised for saying them. And I’m a Jenner fan. Goalies and non-captains are expected to stay quiet. That’s not Elvis.
If this were a high school or a college team (not tOSU), fans would rise up and support the struggling team and/or individual player. This is pro sports, I get it, the ticket prices and salaries alone create a 180 degree different vibe. And yet the players are still 18-30 year olds, not robots. Not as seasoned as we need/like. These players, like most people, thrive on positive feedback, and respond affirmatively to constructive criticism. What is raining down is neither support nor constructive, but pure venom. Yes, fans have the right to boo or maybe even “you suck tonight” - but to think that those words or the worse things I’m hearing help Mgmt, no they don’t. Mgmt has their agenda/plan set and fan behavior doesn’t change that (unless ticket sales plummet). And those words/actions, and yes some threats (no matter how generalized) certainly don’t help the players. I’m not proposing that NWA stand and chant “Elvis” in an attempt to pick him up - and yet that’s exactly what he (and several other YOUNG skaters) would thrive on.
Sorry for the rant. Not a direct response to your post CBJW, just seemed a place to put it. I’m frustrated with the team, with individual players and now with the fan base. My expectation was a little worse than last season with regard to points, some obvious growth observed as the season progressed, and some fun nights at NWA with a proven elite player in the lineup. Can’t get out of the gate, which has the season seemingly teetering on disaster 10 games in. When in reality it’s all part of the process. Just a question of when the growth starts…it needed to be evident now if any PO aspirations were to be fulfilled. The latest stretch says not even close to growth, so let’s find a scapegoat (Elvis, Larsen, etc). Looking forward to when the growth emerges and wearing earplugs until then.
Evgeny Oliker
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So what is the issue here? Is it Elvis not playing well or more the team defense not helping him? Or both?
CBJWerenski8
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Both. Elvis has been non NHL quality and the defense hasn’t been great either. The analytics seems to suggest it’s mostly on the goalies
Evgeny Oliker
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So what do you think Columbus will do to resolve this? Are they going to give Korpisalo a shot?
