Speculation: The Bruins and Jeremy Swayman are far apart in contract term (length) and dollar amount.

[LOFIN]

Not necessarily - look at the offer sheet for Kotkaniemi. It was high for two years and then Carolina signed him to a long term extension at a lower AAV within a year.

One year

 

[Dr Jan Itor]

Not necessarily - look at the offer sheet for Kotkaniemi. It was high for two years and then Carolina signed him to a long term extension at a lower AAV within a year.

So you'd be counting on Swayman taking less money in a couple years? Seems optimistic with what is currently happening.

 

[TheBeard]

Not necessarily - look at the offer sheet for Kotkaniemi. It was high for two years and then Carolina signed him to a long term extension at a lower AAV within a year.

Does that really sound like something Sway would do?

 

[Weltschmerz]

Does that really sound like something Sway would do?

If the other option is to sit out for the season?

 

[Mike4Leafs4ever]

So you'd be counting on Swayman taking less money in a couple years? Seems optimistic with what is currently happening.

Kotkaniemi and Carolina likely had a handshake deal for the extension before signing the offer sheet. Same can happen here. The extension numbers are part of deal upfront to get to AAV over 8 years that Sway wants.

 

[Hookslide]

He's a restricted free agent. He does need to wait for a trade...

For two more years.

 

[Mike4Leafs4ever]

Does that really sound like something Sway would do?

If he is pissed enough with Neely going public.

 

[Jumptheshark]

This is now beyond speculation but in trending towards massive animosity between the team and the player

 

[Artemi Panarin]

 

[Score08]

If Swayman requests a trade and ends up leaving this would be one of the biggest fumbles I can remember. Going from the best tandem in the league to Korpisalo and *insert goalie here would be detrimental.

Remember when the leafs traded rask for raycroft ?

 

[Uncle Scrooge]

It's no surprise this is taking a long time. Every goalie making over 8M, in the past or present, had both hardware and workload - with the exception of Sorokin who didn't have any hardware, but back to back seasons playing at 92.5% for a team that relied heavily on him.

Swayman clearly wants to get paid, and the Bruins know if he busts it would set them back a lot. Plus when the market says he hasn't earned that kind of money, they don't feel like they have to be the one to take the risk. But at the same time, the cap is going up.

With that and Ullmark's departure, yeah makes sense it's a difficult negotiation.

But holy crap, what a mess this has become. First the Chiclets vs Sweeney, now Neely's comments about a 8x8 offer that apparently never really happened. Normally the media makes up all kinds of rumors, but these conflicting comments are all coming from the management, and they're looking worse every day.

 

[Score08]

Oh, it isn't plausible at all. Technically possible, but you're right, who has the space? Columbus, Calgary, Anaheim, San Jose, Utah and maybe Buffalo and Chicago. I can't see any other teams being able to make room for an offer sheet. And which of those teams are actually in serious need of a starting goalie, and would want to give up multiple years of first round picks? None. But its still plausible.

And does swayman post the same numbers on any of those teams as he would if he just signed in Boston?

 

[cheesymc]

It would be enjoyable to watch Swayman sit out most of this season and see someone like Bussi or Korpisalo have a career year on a good team. I'm not sure why the Bruins didn't extend Swayman prior to trading Ulmark and just auctioned off the player that didn't want to offer a the biggest discount.

 

[NORY]

It would be enjoyable to watch Swayman sit out most of this season and see someone like Bussi or Korpisalo have a career year on a good team. I'm not sure why the Bruins didn't extend Swayman prior to trading Ulmark and just auctioned off the player that didn't want to offer a the biggest discount.

With the way this has been negotiated do you really think Swaymans camp would have signed before the inevitable trade of Ulmark? My guess they knew that was there best way to gain leverage. It wouldn't even surprise me if there was common ground before the trade then when it happened Swaymans ask went up.

 

[Master P]

I don’t know how but I hope he ends up on the leafs.

 

[AvroArrow]

I don’t know how but I hope he ends up on the leafs.

0 shot they trade him to a divisional rival

This entire situation is embarrassing for Neely and the Bruins organization. Everyone viewed them as pure class, took 1 dumb comment to change the narrative.

 

[FMichael]

This is now beyond speculation but in trending towards massive animosity between the team and the player

Yup...I honestly would be surprised to see him signing with the Bruins long term.

 

[FMichael]

0 shot they trade him to a divisional rival

This entire situation is embarrassing for Neely and the Bruins organization. Everyone viewed them as pure class, took 1 dumb comment to change the narrative.

While I won't pretend to know what's going on behind the scenes - I would be frustrated too with Swayman's camp when considering his demands and comments/leaks made by the guys at Spitting Chiclets.

 

[Tasty Biscuits]

Servalli is talking out of his ass, good for Cam, it is about time, the other side has been going public for the last year.

Agents always run their mouths, that's how it goes. The org's job is to put up a good face and take it on the chin publicly, but privately do what needs to be done.

Neely going public, especially with what we now know to be an incorrect #, is a massive, massive fumble.

 

[centipede2233]

Swayman going from a 9.5 mil per to 8.5 mil per in a blink of an eye says they were being unrealistic. I’m with Boston management on this one

 

[FMichael]

And does swayman post the same numbers on any of those teams as he would if he just signed in Boston?

This - and is he capable of playing 50 plus games without pooping the bed and having a quality guy like Ullmark as his 1B?

 

[BrannigansLaw]

I don’t know how but I hope he ends up on the leafs.

Our goaltending looks surprisingly decent so far this preseason.

Can’t fit him in anyway.

 

[sena]

Second-line center, not the wing.

The center making more money by position was a made up thing from Dubas, If a winger starts scoring 60 goals and placing in the top ten in points they get just as much as any position on the ice.

 

[FMichael]

Agents always run their mouths, that's how it goes. The org's job is to put up a good face and take it on the chin publicly, but privately do what needs to be done.

Neely going public, especially with what we now know to be an incorrect #, is a massive, massive fumble.

Who's offer was 'incorrect'?

I was under the impression the last offer by the Bruins was $7.8 aav for 8 seasons.

 

[jackjohnson]

If I'm Neely, I trade him and start listening to offers right away. There should be several teams interested in upgrading their net.

Toronto
Edmonton
Colorado
Carolina
LA

If Im Colorado I do everything I can to package Georgiev + for Swayman. Getting Swayman would make the Avs much closer to being the favourites in the West.

Demko for Swayman if Canucks have any hint that Demko's injury is permanent and will affect his performance. Trade him while he has value