Not really. Of Korpisalo or Bussi come out hot, then Swayman loses a ton of his leverage
Speculation: The Bruins and Jeremy Swayman are far apart in contract term (length) and dollar amount.
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Boston is not playing either of those guys in a playoff game and everyone knows that
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i wouldn't worry about that. if boston doesn't sign swayman before december they won't be making the playoffs
And Swayman isn’t sitting out for an entire season.
What exactly is your point here ?
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The Bruins need him if they want to compete for a cup and everyone knows that. Also, the longer this goes on, the higher any caphit would be this season meaning if he goes to Dec 1 and gets his 8-9M it would really be like 11m and not allow them to add much at the TDL.
He has the Bruins by the balls right now and is letting them simmer in the pressure cooker hoping he gets a call soon to come to camp and sign the deal that gets him there
Surprisingly, Korpisalo holds the all time NHL record for most saves in a playoff game.
bert
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It was his second NHL contract. If you dont think that Swayman is as good as Sorokin or worth 8 X 8 then they should just trade him then.
bert
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It was a contract that was all UFA years with him about to hit the open market. If you don’t see the difference I dunno what to say.
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2 Years before ufa isn't much different. Unless you want them to walk him to ufa on a 1 or 2 year deal I'm sure he would be up for that.
It’s very different. No one is walking thru the door offering a two first, 2nd and 3rd offersheet.
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bert
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You realize Swayman already declined arbitration right? How exactly is he “walking to UFA?”
bert
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If they sign him to a 1 year deal they have almost no control and may have to deal him. 2 years walks him to UFA. They have to buy ufa years. It's not complicated.
bert
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So they shouldn't sign him to an 8 year deal. Or a 1 or a 2. So only what's best for Boston. K
Who said they should sign him to an 8 year deal? It’s just a much harder deal to get agreement on with the small body of work and the inconsistency of goalies. A shorter term deal like Helly, Demko, Saros, etc all signed in Swayman’s position is just far more likely.
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He clearly wants one and the Bruins won't do it. Don you won't get every deal you want. The player has some leverage and the Bruins botched this badly.
I would do 8x8 today. If we get into the season with the increased first year AAV then I believe we will be forced to only consider bridge deals with a lower AAV. 4x6.5-7 or 8x8-9 both work fine for me.
This is only my gut feeling, but I think the Bruins would do deals around these parameters, my guess is that Swayman is looking for more.
This is only my gut feeling, but I think the Bruins would do deals around these parameters, my guess is that Swayman is looking for more.
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I don’t think anything is clear. We have one rumor from Friedman that said he wasn’t able to verify that Boston was at 4x6.2 but had other offers on the table (including an 8 year) Swayman was at 8x9.5. Going by comps, Boston’s four year offer is probably 500k too low. Sorokin has to be the absolute ceiling for an 8 year term (more UFA years and more proven as a starter and with a much higher Vezina finish) so Swayman’s ask is probably 1.5m too high.
Who is being more unreasonable here if we trust those numbers? Swayman has some leverage in that the Bruins will lose 15-18 starts until December 1st. As we get closer to December 1st, Swayman gets faced with being paid 0 dollars this year. The leverage goes both ways.
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Y'all needed Swayman playing like a god to eek out a game 7 OT win from a Leafs team missing half it's core the entire series. If this is plan, please feel free to try it.
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We have seen it in past a goalie sit out an entire year (Almost two years actually) during contract dispute
Khabibulin sat out 1999-2000 season playing in IHL over contract dispute. Dispute continued thru most of next season as well before the Yotes finally traded his rights to Lightning
We also saw Joseph consider it after being traded to Edmonton and Oilers unwilling to give him contract he wanted (And the split with Ranford they wanted that was dumb idea). Eventually the Oilers did smart thing and traded Ranford and signed Joseph but it took half a season to get to that point
Swayman could very well miss entire season at his age 25 (Turns 26 during season) and survive
No reason to expect him to surrender in talks to B's as past has seen either team back down (Oilers) or team ultimately trading away player (Khabibulin)
If he truly feels he is worth it and has leverage he can sit it out
