Speculation: The Bruins and Jeremy Swayman are far apart in contract term (length) and dollar amount.

[bb_fan]

I don't think some ppl here have brains. Guenther is projected to be a ppg winger in the future. Swayman is very likely getting carried by the Bruins defensive play.

PPG winger > Average Goalie

been hearing this since 2007....

 

[bert]

been hearing this since 2007....

Its been true in the past but not last year. I do think the Bruins will be better defensively this year however. Swayman is the real deal for sure but I dont think he's worth more than 8 X 8. do we know if thats on the table?

 

[Ghost of Murph]

Why trade Ullmark if you're not willing to pay Swayman?

Also, why trade Ullmark before signing Swayman? You lose all leverage in negotiation when you trade Ullmark.

I've never been impressed with Don Sweeney's critical thinking ability.

Sweeney clearly bungled things. Said all along he chose to trade the wrong goalie. Ullmark is better and obviously cheaper. He's proven and a total team oriented player. Swayman has yet to prove he can handle a big load of games, handle large amounts of high quality chances like Ullmark had to do, and win multiple playoff series. Dude is greedy and arrogant. Sweeney chose wrong and is now going to have to pay for his foolish decision one way or another.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Do the Bruins have those pieces though? IMO that club needs Swayman to make the playoffs. And if they miss the playoffs the current GM will be out of work.
Panthers have goalie Bob at 10 per. Swayman is equally as good and important to his team.

A very obvious top 5D

A top 10 player in the NHL

Yes they have the pieces with or without Swayman

 

[nbwingsfan]

Sweeney clearly bungled things. Said all along he chose to trade the wrong goalie. Ullmark is better and obviously cheaper. He's proven and a total team oriented player. Swayman has yet to prove he can handle a big load of games, handle large amounts of high quality chances like Ullmark had to do, and win multiple playoff series. Dude is greedy and arrogant. Sweeney chose wrong and is now going to have to pay for his foolish decision one way or another.

Vs all the playoff series that Ullmark has won?

 

[belair]

What're the odds he signs a one-year deal that takes him to UFA? The Bruins are headed for a shift next season where they likely need to change course a tad. Swayman would have the opportunity to asking for a higher AAV in any long-term extension. And if somehow the wheels fall off this season, I'd imagine that he'd probably be on the top of the list of available trade chips league wide.

 

[dgibb10]

What're the odds he signs a one-year deal that takes him to UFA? The Bruins are headed for a shift next season where they likely need to change course a tad. Swayman would have the opportunity to asking for a higher AAV in any long-term extension. And if somehow the wheels fall off this season, I'd imagine that he'd probably be on the top of the list of available trade chips league wide.

Swayman has 2 years until UFA since he only has 4 NHL years and is only 25.

 

[wintersej]

Sweeney clearly bungled things. Said all along he chose to trade the wrong goalie. Ullmark is better and obviously cheaper. He's proven and a total team oriented player. Swayman has yet to prove he can handle a big load of games, handle large amounts of high quality chances like Ullmark had to do, and win multiple playoff series. Dude is greedy and arrogant. Sweeney chose wrong and is now going to have to pay for his foolish decision one way or another.

So hard to trade Swayman after he carried the team in the postseason. There would be 1000 posters shitting on him if he did that instead.

 

[Menzinger]

Swayman has 2 years until UFA since he only has 4 NHL years and is only 25.

He'd have arbitration rights for that last year though. Probably the best outcome from the player/agents pov is a one year if they can't find a compromise on the longer term deal

 

[dgibb10]

He'd have arbitration rights for that last year though. Probably the best outcome from the player/agents pov is a one year if they can't find a compromise on the longer term deal

He had arbitration rights last year (and went to arbitration), and this year.

Swayman has also explicitly said he hated the arbitration process

 

[Hookslide]

What're the odds he signs a one-year deal that takes him to UFA? The Bruins are headed for a shift next season where they likely need to change course a tad. Swayman would have the opportunity to asking for a higher AAV in any long-term extension. And if somehow the wheels fall off this season, I'd imagine that he'd probably be on the top of the list of available trade chips league wide.

He is not eligible to a UFA for two more years.

 

[ITM]

The x-factor is the process. Boston runs a great organization. I don't see Boston declining as a result of losing Swayman. Good goalie with far too small a sample size doing this to an otherwise trustworthy organization who seems to reward the right players for the right things.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but from my blue tinted lenses it sure looks that way.

 

[Maple Leaf]

Bruins can just roll with ullmark while they sort this out

 

[HockeyVirus]

Officially the last hold out RFA

 

[EXTRAS]

Hopefully stays out until Dec 1st

 

[GCK]

Caphit increases in year 1 of a long term deal if he isn’t signed before game 1. Bruins should just pay him, Korpse is not good and Bussi ?

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

I wonder if the Leafs could swing a deal involving Swayman for Tavares +? Bruins love their 2 way centres.

 

[sensfan4lifee]

He's done nothing to be worth 10 million

He's never even played a full season as a starter i wouldnt go higher than 2x6 on him

Players are getting too much too early for proving nothing goalie are too unpredictable to sign to a 10m a year deal.

 

[Dog]

He's done nothing to be worth 10 million

He's never even played a full season as a starter i wouldnt go higher than 2x6 on him

Players are getting too much too early for proving nothing goalie are too unpredictable to sign to a 10m a year deal.

I was thinking 6-7.5 tops. If you double his salary it's close to 7.5. Think it becomes more risky after 7.5 million+.

 

[Frank Drebin]

pay this guy his 8x8 and get it over with. I get the bruins had the hometown discount thing going on for an annoyingly long time but those days are over around the league I think.

 

[banks]

I hope he gets every penny that he can. Boston blew their negotiating leverage by trading Ullmark. Now Sway has them where he wants them. He's the guy now, so pay him like it.

 

[statswatcher]

it's probably been said before, but i can't get over the fact that dude's name is bussi.

 

[Ciao]

How bout now ?

Agent Lewis Gross doesn't roll that way before December 1st for an RFA.

 

[Ciao]

Trust me - it's pretty easy being a Bruin fan here in Vancouver. It was a lot tougher growing up just outside Montreal and cheering for the Bruins when your family and friends all cheer for Montreal and hate the Bruins with a passion.

When Bobby Orr played, it was easy to be a Bruins' fan almost anywhere.

 

[oldwpgjet]

Originally put this post in the Swayman trade value link but probably belongs over here. 10 mil or + is ridiculous in my mind. I'd give him 8 on a long term contract,( more than he deserves in my mind), less on a short term contract. If he doesn't like it , let him sit out. Don't forget all these ridiculous contracts and increasing caps just get passed on to the fans to pay for it. An average fan can't afford to go to too many or possibly any games and it keeps getting worse. I think GM's have to draw the line at some point and these ridiculous contracts will hurt the team overall. Look at the leafs the last 5 years as an example, 4 ridiculous contracts have left little for the rest of the team and it has showed. It only takes a few really bad contracts to severely impact the potential of a team. Have to admire Yzerman in Detroit, getting most of his stars signed long term around 8 mil. I also think Korpisalo will be a better goalie on the Bruins than Ottawa and Swayman wouldn't be quite as good on a weaker defensive team. Will be interesting to see how Ullmark does with Ottawa this year. Be interesting to see how ready Bussi is as well. Yes , Sweeney screwed up trading Ullmark first and he can concede to Swayman at the expense of the hockey franchise or hold his ground. If there is no middle ground for Swayman , he should let him sit.