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Well that's how Dubas and Keefe rolled around here, grabbing defeat from the jaws of certain victory.
News Article: The Athletic: Shanahan blocked Dubas from completing trades that "could have improved the Leafs’ ability to advance further in the playoffs"
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Well that's how Dubas and Keefe rolled around here, grabbing defeat from the jaws of certain victory.
Naming the trades would defeat the point. The point is that Dubas wants to sling mud at Shanahan. If you don’t name the trades everyone’s who’s ever wanted to do a trade is thinking oh wow that trade I always wanted to do to make the Leafs better maybe Dubas wanted to do as well! But Shanahan blocked it??!
The second you name the trades you make that effect less impactful.
Impressive. This is the only time I've ever seen Keefe and smart in the same sentence. Sadly it had nothing to do with coaching. How is he still here? Won't a new GM want his own man behind the bench?
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A new GM might want to see things as is.
They might be so busy with the draft, UFA, NMC, that this is low priority.
They may want to evaluate everything.
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That is actually one of the risks of not just conducting negotiations and the draft (trades as well) with Pridham and Shanny rather than the new guy.
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Could have helped advance in the playoffs....
lol nice crystal ball there clickbait shills
lol nice crystal ball there clickbait shills
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ROR, Clifford, Campbell, Ritiich , HuttonThe same way Nick Foligno helped the Leafs advance in the playoffs...
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Makes sense. I wouldn’t want McDavid. Double digit salary players should be able to win a round by themselves. Imagine having one and only wining a few rounds?All bums...I guess Shanahan blocked Marner for McDavid...that must be it
McCann was what we got for those pieces, it was a 7th + Hallander so we had one of Kerfoot or McCann after the draft, what are you not following?
This is not hard to understand. The idea was to protect Holl, who at the time was a 2 million dollar 2nd pairing D with Muzzin, and they were doing well.
Allow one of Kerfoot/McCann to go the other way. From our team, we essentially paid just a 7th + Hallander to keep the team together.
This just makes Dubas look worse, to be honest.
Shanahan provided a detailed timeline, and established clearly that he wanted Dubas back.
Dubas’ press conference was confusing at the time, as that stuff should be behind closed doors, not broadcast.
Based on Shanahan’s timeline that Dubas is making no effort to address or refute, the whole approach by Dubas and his management seems highly contrived.
I think Shanahan understood he was in damned if I do and damned if I don’t decision, and decided to go public to be clear that the reason why Dubas isn’t here is because Dubas moved the goalposts too far forward and in a very unprofessional way.
Now this weak sauce intimation of interference by Shanahan from Dubas media cronies, with no detail or explanation of Dubas’ side leaves Dubas looking bad.
I don’t care about Dubas or Shanahan, and I hate this situation we are in. It’s a dysfunctional and ugly look. Having said that, based on what I see and I’m hearing, this entire situation seems to be as a result of Dubas’ decisions last week, that Shanahan felt he could not accept and didn’t want to deal with anymore.
When someone goes off on their own and violates your trust, someone you count on deeply, there is going to be acrimony and significant fallout, which is where we are now.
I blame Dubas here, and I think this stunt has already blown up in his face with the reputational damage that comes with it. He got greedy and arrogant, and then started shit when the door slammed in his face.
Not a good look for a GM if I’m hiring…..
What a cluster @uck we are in now because of it.
Shanahan provided a detailed timeline, and established clearly that he wanted Dubas back.
Dubas’ press conference was confusing at the time, as that stuff should be behind closed doors, not broadcast.
Based on Shanahan’s timeline that Dubas is making no effort to address or refute, the whole approach by Dubas and his management seems highly contrived.
I think Shanahan understood he was in damned if I do and damned if I don’t decision, and decided to go public to be clear that the reason why Dubas isn’t here is because Dubas moved the goalposts too far forward and in a very unprofessional way.
Now this weak sauce intimation of interference by Shanahan from Dubas media cronies, with no detail or explanation of Dubas’ side leaves Dubas looking bad.
I don’t care about Dubas or Shanahan, and I hate this situation we are in. It’s a dysfunctional and ugly look. Having said that, based on what I see and I’m hearing, this entire situation seems to be as a result of Dubas’ decisions last week, that Shanahan felt he could not accept and didn’t want to deal with anymore.
When someone goes off on their own and violates your trust, someone you count on deeply, there is going to be acrimony and significant fallout, which is where we are now.
I blame Dubas here, and I think this stunt has already blown up in his face with the reputational damage that comes with it. He got greedy and arrogant, and then started shit when the door slammed in his face.
Not a good look for a GM if I’m hiring…..
What a cluster @uck we are in now because of it.
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Why though? McCann is not good... Kerfoot outproduces him in the playoffs and is actually good defensively.
This was my argument of why I thought it was just who did the move and not the actual player.
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isn't that kind of article more of a Dave Feschuk thing? oh no wait, yes that's right Feschuk writes about the trades that cost dearly and produced zero results
This is sure different writing about trades that weren't made that could've won us the cup for sure, so sort of an all seeing all knowing kind of soothsayer type of thing
I remember when Dubes had that deal worked out with Edmonton, the one that Matthews wanted so badly Kerfoot + Holl for Draisatl and then Tavares to Anaheim for Zegras and picks, no wonder Matthews won't play here for less than 15.
Shanny what a noob
This is sure different writing about trades that weren't made that could've won us the cup for sure, so sort of an all seeing all knowing kind of soothsayer type of thing
I remember when Dubes had that deal worked out with Edmonton, the one that Matthews wanted so badly Kerfoot + Holl for Draisatl and then Tavares to Anaheim for Zegras and picks, no wonder Matthews won't play here for less than 15.
Shanny what a noob
Quenneville can't be announced until Gary lifts his "ban" at the end of the season.
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Because I think people were looking for ways to change without touching the core. Bring in McCann for go and change Holl for Lily or someone else. Stats don’t always make the best gel.
Man you really are losing it without Dubas here
This is such a dumb and laughable point.
It feels like arguing just for the sake of arguing.
I salute your consistency but your posts are nonsense.
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