TV: The All - Encompassing Star Trek Thread. Debate Long + Prosper

Osprey

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This 8-minute fan film is very impressive, both technically and in its ability to evoke nostalgia and emotion in a way that modern Trek is incapable of.
 

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This 8-minute fan film is very impressive, both technically and in its ability to evoke nostalgia and emotion in a way that modern Trek is incapable of.



Not really a fan film as it was sanctioned by star trek, the Nimoy family and Shatner had been talking about it for 2 years

 

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Not really a fan film as it was sanctioned by star trek, the Nimoy family and Shatner had been talking about it for 2 years
Yeah, I learned about that after I posted it (and before it was given its own thread). It definitely makes it more special than I originally assumed. I even wondered if Shatner and the Nimoy family would object, so it's nice hearing that they were involved.
 

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Just got a free Paramount subscription in the last few months, been wanting to start the original series but I only see the remastered version on Paramount. I would have rather seen how the shows actually aired but don't see the unmastered version on there.

Do you think there's that big of a difference between the two?
 

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Just got a free Paramount subscription in the last few months, been wanting to start the original series but I only see the remastered version on Paramount. I would have rather seen how the shows actually aired but don't see the unmastered version on there.

Do you think there's that big of a difference between the two?
The differences are mainly in the space shots, which were re-done in CGI. I hate that they did that, but at least there are only a few such shots per episode and last only a few seconds each.

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Satans Hockey

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The differences are mainly in the space shots, which were re-done in CGI. I hate that they did that, but at least there are only a few such shots per episode and last only a few seconds each.

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Appreciate it! I'll probably just try to track down the original versions. I've meaning to dive into the Star Trek world for years now. I don't know why Paramount doesn't just give you the option to watch either.
 

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Then so is Brave New Worlds and several times Spock talked about missing his sister
That's fine. I don't mind SNW and it has some good ideas, but it also can't help itself with some very ridiculous stories, having to redo classic TOS, and why do they need to bring all the TOS characters in? Be self-contained and create new characters.
 

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Appreciate it! I'll probably just try to track down the original versions. I've meaning to dive into the Star Trek world for years now. I don't know why Paramount doesn't just give you the option to watch either.

The only changes are those orbital or space shots being done in CGI and cleaning up some effects shots to be more consistent or not be so obvious now that they're being viewed in HD

I don't think it's worth finding original broadcast versions. The CG space stuff is generally done in a way that makes it still feel appropriate to the original 60s aesthetic and just addresses the fact that a lot of those early effects shots resulted in muddy, boring planets that were badly composited in the background or had trouble showing ship models doing anything beyond the most basic movement. Otherwise I think the only other sort of common changes were things like removing visible wires from "floating" objects and fixing badly blended effects overlays.

This isn't a Star Wars situation where Lucas inserted a bunch of CGI crap that altered shots or changed the composition of scenes. It's just cosmetic touch-ups to stuff that was already there and I don't think it distracts from the episodes at all. Given the choice between watching the show with an already-obtained Paramount+ account or having to go find the mid 2000s/early 2010s Blu-Rays that had the option to switch between original effects and the remaster and pay a premium to buy them, I think the extra cost isn't worth the minimal differences.
 
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Then so is Brave New Worlds and several times Spock talked about missing his sister

The thing I saw says that SNW is likely still considered canon. Just because Discovery no longer exists doesn't mean that versions of its events can't have existed in the main timeline in some capacity. Just not exactly as portrayed in Discovery.
 

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