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johnjm22 said:
As expected, this show as completely fallen apart after a "good" first episode.
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I agree.

Why was the ICE bus driving on the wrong side of the highway?

There's another Dr. Soong who like all the other Dr. Soongs!

The officer comes to the Picard Vineyard alone, discovers a spaceship and doesn't call for backup?

Not only that, the dispatcher who sent the officer there doesn't get suspicious when the officer doesn't report back after being captured by the Borg Queen?

How convenient that Agnes has a "pill" that can wipe the officer's memory for a specific amount of time!

When Agnes shoots the Borg Queen she get her blood all over her, but, the officer's uniform is clean!

Tallinn is a Supervisor like Gary 7, but, her technology can't overcome today's security?

Was this episode written by manatees!?! :laugh:

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Guardian17 said:
I agree.

Why was the ICE bus driving on the wrong side of the highway?

There's another Dr. Soong who like all the other Dr. Soongs!

The officer comes to the Picard Vineyard alone, discovers a spaceship and doesn't call for backup?

Not only that, the dispatcher who sent the officer there doesn't get suspicious when the officer doesn't report back after being captured by the Borg Queen?

How convenient that Agnes has a "pill" that can wipe the officer's memory for a specific amount of time!

When Agnes shoots the Borg Queen she get her blood all over her, but, the officer's uniform is clean!

Tallinn is a Supervisor like Gary 7, but, her technology can't overcome today's security?

Was this episode written by manatees!?! :laugh:

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You seem to think all police departments operate like US. Also, it's clear the Borg Queen jammed communications.

Estonia's capitol's only advanced tech seemed to be involving transportation and observational type. I'd imagine supervisors would be given no tech that could possible be used to interfere.

Surprised no one picked up on Jurati's Six red dress and talking to people only she sees.
 
Jussi said:
You seem to think all police departments operate like US. Also, it's clear the Borg Queen jammed communications.

Estonia's capitol's only advanced tech seemed to be involving transportation and observational type. I'd imagine supervisors would be given no tech that could possible be used to interfere.

Surprised no one picked up on Jurati's Six red dress and talking to people only she sees.
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Picard Vineyard is in France.

If the police department knew a police officer went to a location and communication was lost, they would send in backup.
 
Guardian17 said:
Picard Vineyard is in France.

If the police department knew a police officer went to a location and communication was lost, they would send in backup.
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I know. Hence, why I said you're assuming all police department's in the world operate like in the US. And on a show with time travel, teleportations and starships, THIS is what you nitpick on? Come on...
 
Jussi said:
I know. Hence, why I said you're assuming all police department's in the world operate like in the US. And on a show with time travel, teleportations and starships, THIS is what you nitpick on? Come on...
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I gave a whole list of things to nitpick on! :laugh:

@johnjm22 made an excellent point when he stated "making references is about the only thing this franchise has going for it anymore."

I think the writing and execution have been poor on Picard.

The only positive is its better then that dumpster fire that is Discovery.

Don't worry!

I don't take your offence to my remarks personally!

I like having my opinions challenged, it is how I learn and grow into a better man. :nod:

But, you'll have to do better than European police departments do thing differently than the US!

If you want to change my opinion then you have to do better.

Have a great day! :)
 
Jussi said:
It is still canon. It just won't happen in this altered timeline.
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Which... it's obvious they're going to fix it.

There was a moment in First Contact where Kirk and the rest of the TOS crew was similarly "non-canon." The TNG people fixed it by making sure the warp launch happened.
 
I just noticed that Season 2 of Picard ends on May 5th and Season 1 of Strange New Worlds starts on... May 5th. Paramount really wants to keep its subscribers. :laugh:
 
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Jussi said:
It is still canon. It just won't happen in this altered timeline.
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I was thinking about this today, and I am even more aggravated. The writers disregard Time's arrow and use the well, it's an alternate timeline so Guinan can't remember anything or anyone, and her appearance is drastically altered. Yet, in YESTERDAY'S f***ING ENTERPRISE, NOT ONLY DOES GUINAN LOOK THE SAME SHE IS THE ONE THAT ALERTS PICARD THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG! And I quote directly from Guinan herself "WE DON'T BELONG HERE!" The writers are JERKOFFS! It's lazy, cheap writing. You get some writer's block, use the alternate timeline carnie trick. f*** that! f*** THEM! f*** THIS!
 
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Jussi said:
It is still canon. It just won't happen in this altered timeline.
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I was thinking about this today, and I am even more aggravated. The writers disregard Time's arrow and use the well, it's an alternate timeline so Guinan can't remember anything or anyone, and her appearance is drastically altered. Yet, in YESTERDAY'S f***ING ENTERPRISE, NOT ONLY DOES GUINAN LOOK THE SAME SHE IS THE ONE THAT ALERTS PICARD THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG! And I quote directly from Guinan herself "WE DON'T BELONG HERE!" The writers are JERKOFFS! It's lazy, cheap writing. You get some writer's block, use the alternate timeline carnie trick. f*** that! f*** THEM! f*** THIS!
 
Baby Punisher said:
I was thinking about this today, and I am even more aggravated. The writers disregard Time's arrow and use the well, it's an alternate timeline so Guinan can't remember anything or anyone, and her appearance is drastically altered. Yet, in YESTERDAY'S f***ING ENTERPRISE, NOT ONLY DOES GUINAN LOOK THE SAME SHE IS THE ONE THAT ALERTS PICARD THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG! And I quote directly from Guinan herself "WE DON'T BELONG HERE!" The writers are JERKOFFS! It's lazy, cheap writing. You get some writer's block, use the alternate timeline carnie trick. f*** that! f*** THEM! f*** THIS!
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That's a different timeline and also an older Guinan.
 
If you don't like time travel, you don't like it. But selectively pretending what's gone on in Picard doesn't match some episodes or events while ignoring the ones that it does is pointless. There are 50-ish stories involving time travel or time hijinks in the franchise and there's not a huge amount of internal consistency in how it works.
 
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Tawnos said:
If you don't like time travel, you don't like it. But selectively pretending what's gone on in Picard doesn't match some episodes or events while ignoring the ones that it does is pointless. There are 50-ish stories involving time travel or time hijinks in the franchise and there's not a huge amount of internal consistency in how it works.
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To quote a certain expert on time travel: it's all a bit wibbly wobbly timey wimey.
 
Tawnos said:
If you don't like time travel, you don't like it. But selectively pretending what's gone on in Picard doesn't match some episodes or events while ignoring the ones that it does is pointless. There are 50-ish stories involving time travel or time hijinks in the franchise and there's not a huge amount of internal consistency in how it works.
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Not to mention the convoluted calendar issues stemming from us having reached and passed, or at least approached, the "future".
 
I thought 7 was the new borg Queen--but it maybe the Doctor--she seems to like having the borg as friends and that would explain why the Borg did not kill anyone at the start
 
There's plenty of reasons to dislike this show. Continuity is pretty low on the list considering how many other problems it has.

It's a mess.
 
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