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Speculation: The 2026-27 Roster Speculation Thread: Summer Edition - Throw in All The Oars, We're Trading for Battleships

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Yeah sure, anything is possible but that package then includes Benson and Helenius. You aren't getting Larkin for non-core players.

When you speculate you can predict anything you want but there is about a 0.01% chance of that happening.

Other teams have better draft picks
Other teams have better non-NHL prospects

You have a team like Chicago who absolutely can beat Buffalo's offer unless you see Helenius or Ostlund in there and the first name out of Yzerman's mouth is going to be Benson because why wouldn't it be?
The disadvantage teams like Chicago have is Larkin isn’t going to waive for a team not currently in contention.
I don't see a world where letting Tuch walk and then blasting three players off the NHL roster into a deal for someone like Larkin, praised be his name, makes this team better.
The Sabres are also over 23 players if everyone comes back, and that’s not even factoring in the waiver-generated decisions on Levi and Johnson.

They’ll need to move roster players at some point anyway.
 
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Current roster:

Centers: Norris, Ostlund, McLeod, Kozak, Helenius, Carrick

Center/wings: Thompson, Kulich, Danforth

Wingers: Doan, Quinn, Zucker, Greenway

Forward free agents: Malenstyn, Krebs, Benson, Tuch

Defense: Dahlin, Samuelsson, Power, Byram, Metsa, Timmins

Defense free agents: Kesselring

Goalies: UPL, Lyon, Ellis

Must go through waivers to get sent to Rochester: Johnson, Levi

29 main players the Sabres have to decide on. Some seem easy, like not affording Tuch or moving Greenway as a cap dump. Even if we don’t count the two UFAs, it’s still 27 players.

Unless Jarmo wants to start all his waiver exempt players in Rochester, there are some tough choice to make.
 
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The disadvantage teams like Chicago have is Larkin isn’t going to waive for a team not currently in contention.

The Sabres are also over 23 players if everyone comes back, and that’s not even factoring in the waiver-generated decisions on Levi and Johnson.

They’ll need to move roster players at some point anyway.

Cutting down on roster players usually involves the fringe guys rather than pulling the stuffing out of the middle of the lineup. Greenway remains the likely cap casualty. Krebs could be another -- while scrappy, if he goes to arbitration, that's a guy I can see being moved to a rebuilding sort of team that wants a scrappy mid-line center. McLeod could be depending on what Kekalainen thinks of how McLeod played in the playoffs.

Danforth seems like an easy waiver hide unless he impresses at camp. Dunne is another waiver guy who has shown value but most teams have someone like him. Either going on the wire is just business and I can see both clearing easily.

At this point, I'm not particularly impressed enough with Johnson to be making room for him on the big club nor do I think he has much value in a deal. The protection for the team is that he has another year on his extension at full value - I don't know a lot of teams who are going to find that desirable if they want to slide him down to their AHL team. His deal is full value, there is no AHL salary.
 
Not interested in Barzal. They need a 1C that will consistently win draws and not be a defensive liability. Barzal's FO% hovers in the mid-to-low 40s. His positioning in the D-zone is undisciplined and he turns the puck over too much for my liking.

Wouldn't mind Larkin, but there is no way Detroit trades their captain inside the division.

Thomas really checks all the boxes. Really think it's him this off-season or nothing at all.
These complaints seem nit picky because you have clearly set your focus on Thomas.

Having a 70 point 1C is good enough for me to overlook faceoffs and give aways.

I agree Thomas is the best but he simply isn't available and if he is, it's going to cost more than any of us are willing to give due to the fact St. Louis doesn't have to move him. At all. Unless we hear in the next few weeks, him asking for a trade.
 
Hate to say it but, good.

Idk. A 4th? A 3rd if he signs with that team? Maybe less?
I wouldn't mind if Tuch circles back after he tries to see whats out there.

I agree he isn't worth 10 million dollars and he thinks teams will pay him that when he is 34-35-36-37.

I think 8 million x 7 years is ok but 10 million x 8 years until he is 38 is not good cap management.
 
if he’s really not gonna sign, they ought to move his rights sooner rather than later. Resolve the fan grumbling early, give him a tribute PR push, and move on to the next tasks.
 
Devil's board is thinking Hischier commands 12 AAV

Am I missing something? Seems very high for a 60 point player. I was thinking he would get 8.5-9 AAV
 
Hopefully
Hope he enjoys that extra bit of cash playing for Seattle while missing the playoffs every season (or sneaking in as cannon fodder). It's so bizarre that everything is now going in the right direction and you'd think he'd be beyond happy and take a slightly smaller bag that would still set him up for life.
 
Hope he enjoys that extra bit of cash playing for Seattle while missing the playoffs every season (or sneaking in as cannon fodder). It's so bizarre that everything is now going in the right direction and you'd think he'd be beyond happy and take a slightly smaller bag that would still set him up for life.
His wife probably wants to live elsewhere, would be my guess.
 
Hope he enjoys that extra bit of cash playing for Seattle while missing the playoffs every season (or sneaking in as cannon fodder). It's so bizarre that everything is now going in the right direction and you'd think he'd be beyond happy and take a slightly smaller bag that would still set him up for life.
His expiring contract was absurdly team-friendly. Tuch fully deserves his coming payday. Every dollar. Every year.

I'd love to have him back, but if he goes elsewhere I'll wish him well with no bitterness.
 
Current roster:

Centers: Norris, Ostlund, McLeod, Kozak, Helenius, Carrick

Center/wings: Thompson, Kulich, Danforth

Wingers: Doan, Quinn, Zucker, Greenway

Forward free agents: Malenstyn, Krebs, Benson, Tuch

Defense: Dahlin, Samuelsson, Power, Byram, Metsa, Timmins

Defense free agents: Kesselring

Goalies: UPL, Lyon, Ellis

Must go through waivers to get sent to Rochester: Johnson, Levi

29 main players the Sabres have to decide on. Some seem easy, like not affording Tuch or moving Greenway as a cap dump. Even if we don’t count the two UFAs, it’s still 27 players.

Unless Jarmo wants to start all his waiver exempt players in Rochester, there are some tough choice to make.

Cutting down on roster players usually involves the fringe guys rather than pulling the stuffing out of the middle of the lineup. Greenway remains the likely cap casualty. Krebs could be another -- while scrappy, if he goes to arbitration, that's a guy I can see being moved to a rebuilding sort of team that wants a scrappy mid-line center. McLeod could be depending on what Kekalainen thinks of how McLeod played in the playoffs.

Danforth seems like an easy waiver hide unless he impresses at camp. Dunne is another waiver guy who has shown value but most teams have someone like him. Either going on the wire is just business and I can see both clearing easily.

At this point, I'm not particularly impressed enough with Johnson to be making room for him on the big club nor do I think he has much value in a deal. The protection for the team is that he has another year on his extension at full value - I don't know a lot of teams who are going to find that desirable if they want to slide him down to their AHL team. His deal is full value, there is no AHL salary.
I like puck pedia’s GM took because it lets you see what these decisions look like.

Easy Rochester moves: Danforth, Kulich, Helenius

Cap dump: I usually send Greenway to Chicago along with the rights to Novikov for Florida’s 7th.

Waiver trade: Johnson for something. Wait until camp to see who wins Ellis vs Levi and trade the other one.

RFAs: re-sign Benson, Krebs, Kesselring
UFA: re-sign Malenstyn

Centers: Norris, McLeod, Ostlund, Carrick, Kozak, Helenius
Wing/center: Thompson
Wingers: Doan, Quinn, Zucker

Defense: Dahlin, Samuelsson, Byram, Power, Metsa, Timmins

Team on opening night (using game 7 lines as the base for accounting purposes):

Benson - Norris - Thompson
Zucker - Helenius - Quinn
Krebs - Ostlund - Doan
Malenstyn - McLeod - Carrick
x Kozak

Samuelsson - Dahlin
Byram - Power
Metsa - Timmins
x Kesselring

UPL, Lyon, Winner of Levi/Ellis

This roster is the Jarmo internal development roster. A shade over $2M in cap space.

The room to make changes:
- Don’t re-sign Krebs, Kesselring, Malenstyn
- Move McLeod

I get your point about moving fringe roster players. I don’t think we’d consider McLeod fringe. Kesselring is a sell low who no one would’ve considered fringe a year ago. Malenstyn is a 4th liner but his role was super important for the team. Krebs can be replaced but he also brings a lot to the team.

To a point you made earlier, how much smaller and less physical are we willing to make the roster? Greenway and the four mentioned above make that a reality.

I’d be willing to trade for Larkin with a package like Norris, McLeod/Quinn, etc because if you want to improve the roster, you largely have to make decisions on players which impact the middle part of the roster anyway. Though I doubt Detroit takes that package, I don’t think it puts Buffalo in a worse position. Especially when you start to find a roster spot for Kulich.
 
His expiring contract was absurdly team-friendly. Tuch fully deserves his coming payday. Every dollar. Every year.

I'd love to have him back, but if he goes elsewhere I'll wish him well with no bitterness.
I mean that's true, but it just feels like he could have his cake and eat it too (particularly with us being able to give him the extra year to basically make the actual $ even) and it's odd that's not going to happen.
 
it can be difficult to gauge values with cap going up and salaries going up, but i think regardless, signing someone that is 30 years old to an 8 year contract is never a good idea, regardless of what the AAV turns out to be. The dead money on the end of that deal could be pretty prohibitive and i don't believe that 2-3 years of production is worth that headache later. Not unless we think our window is RIGHT NOW and we need it, which i think we all know is not the case.
 

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