The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

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Losing Zucker would be a big problem if he wants to stay here. I'm OK with a 1-2 year extension and about the same salary. He's the one who makes a positive impact in the locker room, a good vet, but he also plays well and scores a lot of points. Where are you going to find another Zucker? We need a few more of those.
 
I think a guy like Wild Bill would be motivated in Buffalo. Rakell? He feels like the kind of player that will struggle when it comes to creating space on a hemmed in Buffalo team. My guess he reaches the apathy stage/learned helplessness in 2 weeks.
How do you know who's going to succeed and who's not. I thought Zucker was a questionable signing in the summer, but he's turned out to be the complete opposite in terms of production and personality.
 
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How do you know who's going to succeed and who's not. I thought Zucker was a questionable signing in the summer, but he's turned out to be the complete opposite in terms of production and personality.
Rakell has had motivation/inconsistency issues in the past. Zucker has/had always been a hard worker on and off the ice.....it just hadn't always translated into production.
 
Rakell has had motivation/inconsistency issues in the past. Zucker has/had always been a hard worker on and off the ice.....it just hadn't always translated into production.
I didn't know that, then it's a different matter, maybe he's not very suitable.
 
Not sure he's a fit at the age or for leadership but Rackell does not have a NTC. His 40 pts would lead the Sabres in scoring.
Well he has 8 teams in his M-NTC, but as said above, if he has had problems with motivation on a losing team before, then he probably isn't a good fit for us. He's having a good season, but he seems to be playing on Crosby's wing and has had weaker seasons before. Probably someone like Bjorkstrand would be a better fit, especially since there have been rumors recently that he might be available. But from Pens I'm very interested in Pettersson and being allowed to talk to him about an extension here and now.
 
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Two thoughts - Rackell was someone vaguely hinted at a few years ago as a potential interest to Buffalo. I could see them being interested. Secondly, Marcus Pettersson is Ekholm level of good at defense. For a team that has no real stoppers now that Samuelsson has withered up into nothingness, the Sabres could/should look at someone like him with extension in mind if not in hand.
 
I haven't watched a game in some time.

So, this is still a team in the bottom 3 of the NHL? The GM is still here? The roster has had no change?
Friedman reported in 32 thoughts the Pens are interested in our nhl ready prospects. That's about the most excitement of late other than Kulich's play.
 
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Two thoughts - Rackell was someone vaguely hinted at a few years ago as a potential interest to Buffalo. I could see them being interested. Secondly, Marcus Pettersson is Ekholm level of good at defense. For a team that has no real stoppers now that Samuelsson has withered up into nothingness, the Sabres could/should look at someone like him with extension in mind if not in hand.
If the cost for Pettersson is Ostlund, Wahlberg, or Helenius, I’ll pass and offer Rosen and a 2nd. Then try to recoup the 2nd when they inevitably trade Zucker and Jokiharju.
 
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I can’t think of anyone on the Pens without trade protection I would be interested in.

Hopefully a bunch of other teams are interested in our NHL ready prospects.
 
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I can’t think of anyone on the Pens without trade protection I would be interested in.

Hopefully a bunch of other teams are interested in our NHL ready prospects.
You should ask even those who have protection if you need a player. It will not cost you anything.
 
From Pittsburgh they mentioned Rust and Pettersson. It seems Rust will lose trade protection this summer and his agent is also Tuch, Greenway and Gilbert's agent. Pettersson is just the type of defenseman we really need no matter that he's an LD. Rakell has Claude Lemieux as his agent. Bunting and Glass were also mentioned a little bit.

 
From Pittsburgh they mentioned Rust and Pettersson. It seems Rust will lose trade protection this summer and his agent is also Tuch, Greenway and Gilbert's agent. Pettersson is just the type of defenseman we really need no matter that he's an LD. Rakell has Claude Lemieux as his agent. Bunting and Glass were also mentioned a little bit.


Rust was injured last night, left the game
 
I can’t think of anyone on the Pens without trade protection I would be interested in.

Hopefully a bunch of other teams are interested in our NHL ready prospects.
One team that should definitely be interested in Buffalo's NHL ready prospects, is the Sabres!!!

9, 20, and 48 are three of the more reliable players on this roster. Watching all three returning to D zone has been encouraging (especially Kulich, very impressive)... there are few free-skate forechecks permitted, they are clogging up space and giving the D that split second longer to make a read and play. All three get after it on the forecheck too (Benson is putting on clinics).

And yeah, they need veterans to support and take pressure off the young guys, but says a lot when 3 of your most reliable players are young rookies (or <20 in the case of Benson, not a rookie). Interestingly, or not, all three are top 10 on the Sabres in xGF%. Kind of takes away the excuses from the young but not as young guys.

Again, interesting or not, Gilbert, Beck (2nd rd pick), and Lafferty ($4M) are all in the bottom 4 in xGF% on the team (Lower than Quinn and Bryson... yep!). The forwards are worse than Okposo and Girgs were last year (in fairness, more D-Zone starts too), hardly the upgrade it was sold to be (they hit more, that would come in handy in a playoff series maybe).

Anyway, the young guys look good.
 
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Losing Zucker would be a big problem if he wants to stay here. I'm OK with a 1-2 year extension and about the same salary. He's the one who makes a positive impact in the locker room, a good vet, but he also plays well and scores a lot of points. Where are you going to find another Zucker? We need a few more of those.
I love Zucker, he is the antithesis of what this team represents.

That being said I am also not attached to him. I am hoping Adams gets fired, the new GM fires Ruff and we see a wholesale roster change.

I get thats probably not going to happen but its what I am hoping for. I don't see Zucker returning here, I think a playoff team will be much more appealing to him at his age.
 
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I love Zucker, he is the antithesis of what this team represents.

That being said I am also not attached to him. I am hoping Adams gets fired, the new GM fires Ruff and we see a wholesale roster change.

I get thats probably not going to happen but its what I am hoping for. I don't see Zucker returning here, I think a playoff team will be much more appealing to him at his age.
Again, even a new GM probably won't solve the problem of players not wanting to come here. We have a proper vet who is still productive and enjoys being here in Buffalo. He told Fairburn publicly that he likes it here and would consider an extension and he said it with enthusiasm. He is a positive influence in the locker room. I mean, why wouldn't he be considered for an extension in that case? Of course, it's a question of money and term, but I'm definitely not against signing him to a 1-2 year extension. If he doesn't want to talk to the GM about it before the TDL, then it's a simple matter of trading him, that's all.
 
I love Zucker, he is the antithesis of what this team represents.

That being said I am also not attached to him. I am hoping Adams gets fired, the new GM fires Ruff and we see a wholesale roster change.

I get thats probably not going to happen but its what I am hoping for. I don't see Zucker returning here, I think a playoff team will be much more appealing to him at his age.
Wide sweeping changes are not realistic... Seems like a third of the roster would be most significant.

XX - Thompson - Tuch
Peterka - Kullich - YY
Benson - McLeod - Quinn
Beck (I guess) - Kozak/Krebs - Lafferty/NAK

Dahlin - ZZ
Power/Byram - ZZ
Sammy - Clifton
RyJo/Gilbert

UPL
GG

XX and YY - get guys who can legit play a top 6 role (with proven experience)
Could move one of Peterka or Quinn and get rid of some line-up redundancy

ZZ two RDs that profile as defensive D-men (ideally strong at protecting entries/blue line).

You have, in this model, Cozens (who is garnering attention), Byram or Power, potentially Peterka or Quinn + draft and prospect assets and additional cap space that will come with offloading Zucker, Greenway, and Joker at the deadline (potentially Krebs, Lafferty or NAK too - Beck is not going anywhere because no one is giving a 2nd for him and the ridicule will not be worth it lol). Plenty of $s and trade capital to fill 4 to 6 spots with experienced nhlers

I am still not sure that is a winning roster (good coach and you might make the playoffs). And that has 4, maybe 5 additions who would be looking at significant minutes. And still has young dudes playing big roles. Good grief!!!

Then again, Vegas made it to the cup in their first season with William Karlsson as their leading scorer. I am optimistic again. Just need Pegula to find a good hockey man with a wrestling background.
 
Wide sweeping changes are not realistic... Seems like a third of the roster would be most significant.

XX - Thompson - Tuch
Peterka - Kullich - YY
Benson - McLeod - Quinn
Beck (I guess) - Kozak/Krebs - Lafferty/NAK

Dahlin - ZZ
Power/Byram - ZZ
Sammy - Clifton
RyJo/Gilbert

UPL
GG

XX and YY - get guys who can legit play a top 6 role (with proven experience)
Could move one of Peterka or Quinn and get rid of some line-up redundancy

ZZ two RDs that profile as defensive D-men (ideally strong at protecting entries/blue line).

You have, in this model, Cozens (who is garnering attention), Byram or Power, potentially Peterka or Quinn + draft and prospect assets and additional cap space that will come with offloading Zucker, Greenway, and Joker at the deadline (potentially Krebs, Lafferty or NAK too - Beck is not going anywhere because no one is giving a 2nd for him and the ridicule will not be worth it lol). Plenty of $s and trade capital to fill 4 to 6 spots with experienced nhlers

I am still not sure that is a winning roster (good coach and you might make the playoffs). And that has 4, maybe 5 additions who would be looking at significant minutes. And still has young dudes playing big roles. Good grief!!!

Then again, Vegas made it to the cup in their first season with William Karlsson as their leading scorer. I am optimistic again. Just need Pegula to find a good hockey man with a wrestling background.
With that roster its year 16 of no playoffs.
 
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Not sure if I'm willing to take the risk with Kulich as our top 6 C and put the kids in that position again. If Zucker and Greenway gone, we need to find replacements. Top 6 C makes a lot of sense, but it's not that easy. Maybe top 6 W too. Much has been said about defense. Trade Byram or Power and add two top 4 D who can play defense and PK, it would be nice if they were also experienced and proven guys, one of them could be a LD in the first pair with Dahlin.
 

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