The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[Fjordy]

Teams rarely trade #1 or #2 centers are here we have Buffalo trading away Eichel, ROR, MIttelstadt.


Management just keeps sabotaging themselves.

EDIT: Jack Eichel is leading the NHL in scoring for centers.

It seems to me as simple as two and two. Add two good players (D and F) and see what happens, for starters.

 

[slip]

Teams rarely trade #1 or #2 centers are here we have Buffalo trading away Eichel, ROR, MIttelstadt.


Management just keeps sabotaging themselves.

EDIT: Jack Eichel is leading the NHL in scoring for centers.

And Reinhart is leading the NHL in goals.

 

[Fjordy]

Looks like that surgery went well.

100% immersion

Hello Kevyn

 

[toddkaz]

The only center is see that would be available right now that can help the team(maybe others when teams fall out of the playoffs) is Mikael Granlund.

 

[Fjordy]

The only center is see that would be available right now(maybe others when teams fall out of the playoffs) is Mikael Granlund and would definitely help the team.

Is Adams going to trade for a rental and overpay, plus I don't think the Sharks are rushing to trade him, they can get something good for him at the TDL. But I think there is more options than Granlund.

 

[toddkaz]

Is Adams going to trade for a rental and overpay, plus I don't think the Sharks are rushing to trade him, they can get something good for him at the TDL. But I think there is more options than Granlund.

Probably but I see ROR's name getting thrown around and that isn't going to happen. I remember the falling out with Pegula and wanting him shipped out before he had to pay his bonus.

To be honest its slim pickens and I dont see it happening.

 

[Fjordy]

Probably but I see ROR's name getting thrown around and that isn't going to happen. I remember the falling out with Pegula and wanting him shipped out before he had to pay his bonus.

To be honest its slim pickens and I dont see it happening.

Well, yeah, it's unlikely that a deal for ROR is possible.

What other options are there? Try to find a player who might not be a good fit for his team for various reasons, but could theoretically be good for us.

Zegras. I know a lot of people don't like him, but I've always liked him for his creativity and playmaking abilities.

Frost. It seems like he's not popular with Torts.

Novak. He's had two very decent last seasons, but now the Preds are in a storm.

Of the experienced guys, Coyle and R. Strome come to mind. I'm not sure Boston is ready to trade Coyle for us, and I don't know much about Strome right now.

 

[jc17]

Well, yeah, it's unlikely that a deal for ROR is possible.

What other options are there? Try to find a player who might not be a good fit for his team for various reasons, but could theoretically be good for us.

Zegras. I know a lot of people don't like him, but I've always liked him for his creativity and playmaking abilities.

Frost. It seems like he's not popular with Torts.

Novak. He's had two very decent last seasons, but now the Preds are in a storm.

Of the experienced guys, Coyle and R. Strome come to mind. I'm not sure Boston is ready to trade Coyle for us, and I don't know much about Strome right now.

I think coyle has a no movement clause.

I don't really get the flyers. Their fans seem to love or are ready to trade Frost, Farabee and Brink on a daily basis.

The more I think about it, just go get zegras and be on the right end of a team giving up on talent for once

 

[toddkaz]

Well, yeah, it's unlikely that a deal for ROR is possible.

What other options are there? Try to find a player who might not be a good fit for his team for various reasons, but could theoretically be good for us.

Zegras. I know a lot of people don't like him, but I've always liked him for his creativity and playmaking abilities.

Frost. It seems like he's not popular with Torts.

Novak. He's had two very decent last seasons, but now the Preds are in a storm.

Of the experienced guys, Coyle and R. Strome come to mind. I'm not sure Boston is ready to trade Coyle for us, and I don't know much about Strome right now.

I am not sure they are better options than Granlund. None of them are 1st or 2nd line centers. Maybe Zegras has the potential to be a 2C. I have no problem taking a chance on Zegras if its not a 1st round pick. Frost will probably cost a 1st.

I like where you are going but I think Buffalo needs to aim higher and get a difference maker.

 

[Fjordy]

I think coyle has a no movement clause.

I don't really get the flyers. Their fans seem to love or are ready to trade Frost, Farabee and Brink on a daily basis.

The more I think about it, just go get zegras and be on the right end of a team giving up on talent for once

Well I also recently saw Boston fans ready to trade Carlo and Coyle on the main board in the comments, although that was a few weeks ago, Boston is winning more now and I don't see a trade with them anytime soon.

This is just a trade for luck, maybe Frost will work out, maybe not. Something like a trade for Jost, but we will also hope that Frost will be 2C for us, the chances seem not so high, so I agree with you.

Zegras looks like for me the best from potentially available optionsfor me, he has talent and creativity, he is a good playmaker, as far as I know he plays on the wing and Ducks fans say that is not his position, he is not very strong near the boards and would be better off playing center. Also Ducks fans hate their coach, just like we hated Krueger. We have players who can do some of his dirty work for him, but also benefit from playing with him and his passes. Moreover, Adams had already shown some interest in Zegras.

I am not sure they are better options than Granlund. None of them are 1st or 2nd line centers. Maybe Zegras has the potential to be a 2C. I have no problem taking a chance on Zegras if its not a 1st round pick.

I like where you are going but I think Buffalo needs to aim higher and get a difference maker.

I would take a risk with Zegras than with Granlund. Because what incentive does Grier have to trade Granlund now? He will simply tell Adams give me Kulich +1st, for rental, Adams will of course refuse. Zegras has control and I think he will fit well into the team.

I agree you want a more proven option, but who? What team is willing to trade their top 6 C to Buffalo right now? I just don't see many realistic options.

 

[SabresFan26]

And Reinhart is leading the NHL in goals.

And Kevyn Adams leveraged both of them into.....

Alex Tuch, Peyton Krebs, Noah Ostlund, Jordan Greenway, Devon Levi, Jiri Kulich.

Fireable offense.

This is far far worse than Botterill getting Tage for ROR and that was a bad deal.

 

[Fjordy]

Fabbro looks f***ing good.

 

[toddkaz]

Well I also recently saw Boston fans ready to trade Carlo and Coyle on the main board in the comments, although that was a few weeks ago, Boston is winning more now and I don't see a trade with them anytime soon.

This is just a trade for luck, maybe Frost will work out, maybe not. Something like a trade for Jost, but we will also hope that Frost will be 2C for us, the chances seem not so high, so I agree with you.

Zegras looks like for me the best from potentially available optionsfor me, he has talent and creativity, he is a good playmaker, as far as I know he plays on the wing and Ducks fans say that is not his position, he is not very strong near the boards and would be better off playing center. Also Ducks fans hate their coach, just like we hated Krueger. We have players who can do some of his dirty work for him, but also benefit from playing with him and his passes. Moreover, Adams had already shown some interest in Zegras.


I would take a risk with Zegras than with Granlund. Because what incentive does Grier have to trade Granlund now? He will simply tell Adams give me Kulich +1st, for rental, Adams will of course refuse. Zegras has control and I think he will fit well into the team.

I agree you want a more proven option, but who? What team is willing to trade their top 6 C to Buffalo right now? I just don't see many realistic options.

You are right some desperate GM will trade away a 1st for Granlund at the trade deadline and its not worth it.

 

[Fjordy]

You are right some desperate GM will trade away a 1st for Granlund at the trade deadline and its not worth it.

And maybe even more.

 

[TheMistyStranger]

And Kevyn Adams leveraged both of them into.....

Alex Tuch, Peyton Krebs, Noah Ostlund, Jordan Greenway, Devon Levi, Jiri Kulich.

Fireable offense.

This is far far worse than Botterill getting Tage for ROR and that was a bad deal.

3 of those guys are extremely high-end prospects, so you really can't judge at this point.

 

[MagnumForce2]

And Kevyn Adams leveraged both of them into.....

Alex Tuch, Peyton Krebs, Noah Ostlund, Jordan Greenway, Devon Levi, Jiri Kulich.

Fireable offense.

This is far far worse than Botterill getting Tage for ROR and that was a bad deal.

Hypothetically…just for fun

Peterka Eichel Reinhart
Benson Thompson Cozens
Quinn McLeod Zucker
Kubel Lafferty Malenstn

I realize they would have probably been a better team and not finished as low in the standings which would have been reflective in our draft picks and current players.

 

[slip]

And Kevyn Adams leveraged both of them into.....

Alex Tuch, Peyton Krebs, Noah Ostlund, Jordan Greenway, Devon Levi, Jiri Kulich.

Fireable offense.

This is far far worse than Botterill getting Tage for ROR and that was a bad deal.

I can live with trading EIchel. Great talent, not a great ambassador for the city of Buffalo.

Reinhart? That's a different story. Botterill/Adams dinking around with his contracts cost us a potential HOFer and rafter worthy talent who clearly embraced the community. His departure STILL stings.

 

[Beerz]

We have him.

And where can we get it? Adams can't even get a top 6 F, and you want 1C.

No we don't.. we have a "1" Center who plays like a 1 Winger.

Look at the eastern conference teams currently in playoff spots. There are a bunch that aren't significant upgrades to tage, and even if you'd take them I just don't think that's driving the big differences in the standings

They may not score the goals Tage does but their overall game is more conducive to a true Center..and that matters.

 

[jc17]

No we don't.. we have a "1" Center who plays like a 1 Winger.



They may not score the goals Tage does but their overall game is more conducive to a true Center..and that matters.

I don't see needing a #1 center as the big takeaway from the first 25 games of the season

Thompson's line is the only line that has actually outplayed opponents in actual and expected goals. There's been discussion lately about scoring chances. The sabres generate the most chances when he's on the ice, and allow the least.

They have moments of inconsistency, I think he struggles when other teams are protecting a lead, but I don't think that's between us and the playoffs. Given the option to swap him with a playoff team's 1C, or swap cozens with a playoff team's 2C, I think the latter makes more sense. Its the choice between one line winning by a bit more, or another line going from losing hockey to winning hockey.

 

[MagnumForce2]

I can live with trading EIchel. Great talent, not a great ambassador for the city of Buffalo.

Reinhart? That's a different story. Botterill/Adams dinking around with his contracts cost us a potential HOFer and rafter worthy talent who clearly embraced the community. His departure STILL stings.

We really didn’t get much for Reinhart…
Levi and pick 30 (Kulich)

 

[SabresFan26]

3 of those guys are extremely high-end prospects, so you really can't judge at this point.

Those three won’t ever be the leading goal scorer in the league or leading point getter.

 

[Dreakon13]

I’ve now watched two coaches in a row sacrifice offense completely to get them to play mediocre team defense. Something they feel is 100% necessary because the defensemen are a defensive liability from top to bottom.

I don't think it's sacrificing offense for defense. They're generally getting the puck where they need to in the offensive zone, and IMO the effort is there... they just aren't executing once they get to the part where they need to get the puck behind the goalie.

I don't think it's as hopeless with this group as people think on here, if this were year 3-4 of the drought instead of 13-14 we'd probably feel pretty good about the direction they're going and Ruff's influence... but at some point Adams needs to pull the ripcord on one of our perpetual underachievers if there's proven top 6 talent available somewhere.

 

[DJN21]

Would prefer a proven top 4RHD who is physical with experience. This team doesn't need to get younger thats part of the problem.

I agree too no problem with it. This team needs a Mike Weber or Jay McKee type. It didn't think they would be that expensive on the market.(meaning lower than a 1st round pick)

Part of the problem I see is there is not enough separation from the bottom teams to the wild card teams for teams to become sellers yet but this team needs help now.

Shiut your mouth lol

 

[DJN21]

So aside from the constant top 4rhd and top 6 forward conversation that owns this thread....

Anyone wonder what would happen if beck gets more than 6-7mins a night? Ill admit i stat sheet watch more than actually watch lately so maybe others can comment more on that. It seems to me we paid a high price for a guy who barely plays...

 

[TheMistyStranger]

Those three won’t ever be the leading goal scorer in the league or leading point getter.

I dunno man...I think Levi definitely has it in him. :p