The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[TehDoak]

My tinfoil hat theory is that the stingy spending is because Terry wants a run at McDavid when the chance comes

 

[BFLO]

Lets talk about our D pairings.

Of D-pairs with at least 100 minutes this season:

Dahlin-Joker and Sammy-Cliffy are 14th and 15th best in the entire league by xGF%

On the other hand Byram-Power are the 4th worst in the league.

If we look at actual goals
8th and 17th best

11th worst

But what does it all mean Basil?

Dahlin-Joker are playing well and getting good results
Byram-Power playing poorly, but getting good results (good luck)
Sammy-Clifton playing well but getting poor results (bad luck)

 

[MOGlLNY]

It’s interesting because I wonder if a few games are tanking OP and Bo. Feels like they’re either great or rough and no in between.

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

I’m willing to pay the pound of flesh to get someone in here but I dont think I’m willing to give up Benson. Anybody 21 and under + any pick but not Benson.

I really think Benson is gonna be high high end.

I had the same feelings about Quinn.

 

[MOGlLNY]

I had the same feelings about Quinn.

I think Quinn pulls himself out of whatever is going on still

 

[Doug Prishpreed]

Lets talk about our D pairings.

Of D-pairs with at least 100 minutes this season:

Dahlin-Joker and Sammy-Cliffy are 14th and 15th best in the entire league by xGF%
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On the other hand Byram-Power are the 4th worst in the league.
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If we look at actual goals
8th and 17th best
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11th worst
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But what does it all mean Basil?

Dahlin-Joker are playing well and getting good results
Byram-Power playing poorly, but getting good results (good luck)
Sammy-Clifton playing well but getting poor results (bad luck)

The game isn’t just about offense…and these particular metrics are not an adequate way to evaluate a defenseman, even if you didn’t have such a low sample size.

I think we’re better off with the eye test at this point. None of the defensemen are having amazing seasons so far, and some of them are disappointing when compared to expectations

I think Quinn pulls himself out of whatever is going on still

I do too, but not sure it’ll be this season.

 

[Sabre the Win]

Wish I could just move on from our GM when I'm disappointed in him....

all jokes aside our doctors knew his shoulder was shot and thats a primary reason or so I believe.

They also didn't want to give Eichel his desired surgery and then he went on to win a Stanley Cup.

 

[MOGlLNY]

They also didn't want to give Eichel his desired surgery and then he went on to win a Stanley Cup.

Eichel demanded a trade before his neck was hurt

 

[Sabre the Win]

Eichel demanded a trade before his neck was hurt

That's not the point like at all.

 

[MOGlLNY]

That's not the point like at all.

So your point is that we should’ve kept Savoie because our doctors suck then?

 

[Sabre the Win]

So your point is that we should’ve kept Savoie because our doctors suck then?

The point is our doctors don't know their head from their ass because Eichel went and got his surgery done and then won a Stanley Cup and hasn't lost any bit of form.

 

[MOGlLNY]

The point is our doctors don't know their head from their ass because Eichel went and got his surgery done and then won a Stanley Cup and hasn't lost any bit of form.

I don’t like Terry or the interior of this org but I wasn’t giving a guy who demanded a trade an unproven surgery option on an NHL player while we were on the hook for 80 million dollars

 

[Gras]

The point is our doctors don't know their head from their ass because Eichel went and got his surgery done and then won a Stanley Cup and hasn't lost any bit of form.

You dont think he wins the cup if he got the surgery recommended by the Sabres Drs?

 

[BFLO]

The game isn’t just about offense…and these particular metrics are not an adequate way to evaluate a defenseman, even if you didn’t have such a low sample size.

I think we’re better off with the eye test at this point. None of the defensemen are having amazing seasons so far, and some of them are disappointing when compared to expectations


I do too, but not sure it’ll be this season.

xGF% takes both offense and defense into account the same way that GF% does.

It’s the ratio between expected goals for and expected goals against.

Any hockey stat displayed in % is the ratio for vs against.

 

[GellMann]

Remarkable that five years of building led to this

wins in 4 of the first 11 games

 

[Willgamesh]

Remarkable that five years of building led to this

wins in 4 of the first 11 games

only 5?

 

[sabremike]

If they move Byram for a lesser forward than Mitts....

Sunk cost - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[Djp]

The point is our doctors don't know their head from their ass because Eichel went and got his surgery done and then won a Stanley Cup and hasn't lost any bit of form.

Most sports medicine dr said this was very risky surgery for pro athletes and the risk if they get hit again.

Great he made it out ok bu tg odds were against him

 

[Fjordy]

Send Levi to the AHL, trade for a cheap goalie, stop torturing him and ruining his career.

 

[sabremike]

Send Levi to the AHL, trade for a cheap goalie, stop torturing him and ruining his career.

Why allow a guy to develop in the AHL when you can put him in the NHL when he's not ready for it and completely destroy his career before it even begins? It's absolutely insane.