The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[HaNotsri]

They were never going to. Adams wanted his draft picks rounding out the top 6; Quinn/Peterka/Benson

It always works out in vidya games

 

[Matt Ress]

Back to back games allowing 6 goals. I know we're beating up on Sammy but that's not all on him. Is it the passivity of team zone coverage? goaltending? D.All of the above?

 

[sabremike]

Nobody has pointed this out but the single biggest roster fail by Kevyn was not finding a replacement for Kyle Okposo. Even though everything went off the rails last season he was a veteran leader for a team of kids, and now they have no veteran leader on the roster and the results have been entirely predictable.

 

[MOGlLNY]

It always works out in vidya games

Wooof hate how this is true

Back to back games allowing 6 goals. I know we're beating up on Sammy but that's not all on him. Is it the passivity of team zone coverage? goaltending? D.All of the above?

Bad games from the tendies but particularly Levi

 

[Push Dr Tracksuit]

Back to back games allowing 6 goals. I know we're beating up on Sammy but that's not all on him. Is it the passivity of team zone coverage? goaltending? D.All of the above?

thought the goalies were giving up softies both nights

 

[debaser66]

Where is a Reimer when you need one

 

[TheMistyStranger]

I'm gonna step away from this for a while. Woke up at 4:30 from a dream where I was reading this forum after the Sabres signed Hasek out of pure desperation, and someone posted about Hasek's prior behavior issues including a story where a plane had to have an emergency landing because Dom was being belligerent.

 

[Matt Ress]

thought the goalies were giving up softies both nights

I agree. The young duo hasn't found consistency yet. It sucks that they're passing through valleys at the same time.

We also haven't always put them in great spots paired with some dumb penalties and a not great PK is a recipe for swiss cheese. It's like we can't play good defensive hockey and score goals in the same game. Then with a ghostly PP there's no safety net to make up for mistakes.

There's no facet that has been reliably strong even through this short stint of games. Physicality? I guess they're throwing a lot of hits but it's not having any real game impact.

I would have liked to see them be more aggressive in their own zone against ungood teams like CBus; pressuring the wall and points. Make them make smart passes. I hate when they talk about having enough energy to play offense because that means they're going to sit back and watch in the Dzone and hope they can turn it up ice.

 

[debaser66]

I'm gonna step away from this for a while. Woke up at 4:30 from a dream where I was reading this forum after the Sabres signed Hasek out of pure desperation, and someone posted about Hasek's prior behavior issues including a story where a plane had to have an emergency landing because Dom was being belligerent.

Dom H. Depardieu

 

[OkimLom]

Nobody has pointed this out but the single biggest roster fail by Kevyn was not finding a replacement for Kyle Okposo. Even though everything went off the rails last season he was a veteran leader for a team of kids, and now they have no veteran leader on the roster and the results have been entirely predictable.

I thought Zucker was that vet replacement.

Edit: I thought the problem was that he still looked at only his bottom 6 of his roster, as the only spot of said vet replacements. He didn’t touch the top 6 which we needed a top 6-level Vet player. Sure as hell don’t bring quality vet experience in his d-corp which they still need.

The man has a habit of not replacing what he once lost (Mittelstadt, Skinner), and has way too much confidence in his own “evaluations of players”. The guy is going to see this project of his through, whether successful or not, playoffs be damned.

 

[Djp]

Yes. I like Zucker and he helps make our 3rd line our best line. That doesn't change the fact that we never replaced Skinner with an equal or better top 6 winger.

Not part of the plan....when skinner was bought out

Buffalo has Peterka, Quinn, Benson, , Kulich, Rosen, Ostlund , Wahlberg, Savoie Poltapov ???, a few others.

You figure Tuch stays, and you have tage and cozens for top 9 spots

Therr are 6 empty spots for 12+ players to compete over.

Sure they could trade a young F for s veteran short term but not for signingblkng term

I thought Zucker was that vet replacement.

Edit: I thought the problem was that he still looked at only his bottom 6 of his roster, as the only spot of said vet replacements. He didn’t touch the top 6 which we needed a top 6-level Vet player. Sure as hell don’t bring quality vet experience in his d-corp which they still need.

Mitts and skinner also has to do with cap space

Define vet experience

The man has a habit of not replacing what he once lost (Mittelstadt, Skinner), and has way too much confidence in his own “evaluations of players”. The guy is going to see this project of his through, whether successful or not, playoffs be damned.

Ostlund can play C and replace Mitts

He didnt sign Skinner that.

 

[sabremike]

Not part of the plan....when skinner was bought out

Buffalo has Peterka, Quinn, Benson, , Kulich, Rosen, Ostlund , Wahlberg, Savoie Poltapov ???, a few others.

You figure Tuch stays, and you have tage and cozens for top 9 spots

Therr are 6 empty spots for 12+ players to compete over.

Sure they could trade a young F for s veteran short term but not for signingblkng term


Mitts and skinner also has to do with cap space

Define vet experience


Ostlund can play C and replace Mitts

He didnt sign Skinner that.

There has never been a more surefire way to get your teeth kicked in on a nightly basis in the NHL than icing a lineup of kids and wouldn't you know it: we are well on our way to 14 in a row. Our GM is an unqualified flunky of the generationaly bad owner which is why we are the most hopeless dumpster fire in all of sports.

 

[Willgamesh]

Nobody has pointed this out but the single biggest roster fail by Kevyn was not finding a replacement for Kyle Okposo. Even though everything went off the rails last season he was a veteran leader for a team of kids, and now they have no veteran leader on the roster and the results have been entirely predictable.

Because having Okposo around helped so much....

 

[Mattilaus]

Because having Okposo around helped so much....

I don't think anyone is saying a 4th line grinder vet fixes the team. Its unfortunately more systemic than that. You need competent and skilled vets throughout the roster to help guide the younger players, not just 1 getting 8 minutes a night. Cozens shouldn't be or have been the veteran player on the 2nd line for the last 3 years. Dahlin at 24 shouldn't be the responsible vet on D. There should be 2 or even 3 capable and good vets teaching players like Dahlin, Power, and Sammy how to be pros and how to play winning hockey.

 

[Willgamesh]

I don't think anyone is saying a 4th line grinder vet fixes the team. Its unfortunately more systemic than that. You need competent and skilled vets throughout the roster to help guide the younger players, not just 1 getting 8 minutes a night. Cozens shouldn't be or have been the veteran player on the 2nd line for the last 3 years. Dahlin at 24 shouldn't be the responsible vet on D. There should be 2 or even 3 capable and good vets teaching players like Dahlin, Power, and Sammy how to be pros and how to play winning hockey.

I don't disagree with you but that's not what Mike said.

 

[sabremike]

I don't disagree with you but that's not what Mike said.

If you make an insufficiency much worse what's the result (hint: 1-4-1 and getting worse by the day)?

 

[jc17]

Okposo?

The captain of the team with no accountability? Team babysitter? That's what this team is lacking?

I like the guy as a person, and could even get behind the idea of needing more vet leadership, but we're not worse because okposo's not here

 

[Willgamesh]

If you make an insufficiency much worse what's the result (hint: 1-4-1 and getting worse by the day)?

Insufficiency like your sample size 8 seasons with Okie vs 6 games?

 

[joshjull]

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

If things continue to go south and Adams were to try to make a "core shake up" trade, I could see this based on the dots that have been connected the last few summers:

Zegras for Cozens

I'm not saying I like it. I may even hate it. I'm just saying it's the kind of thing I could see happen. We know Adams has been connected to Zegras. Two franchises that have sort of stalled.