The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[StrompTroller]

They also didn't want to give Eichel his desired surgery and then he went on to win a Stanley Cup.

By circumventing the salary cap pretty badly to ice a stacked team...

 

[sabremike]

The odds *ARE* against him.

The actual surgery is no riskier than the alternative.

The risk lies in playing a full NHL career with an artificial disk vs a fusion. The doctors know the fusion is safe long term for an NHL player, but they do not know if the artificial disk can withstand multiple years of NHL level hits. The consensus among doctors is that they do not believe it can, and that disk failure would have catastrophic consequences, potentially paralysis or death.

If the past 20-30 years has taught us anything it should be that betting against advances in modern medicine/surgical procedures is about as wise as betting against Tom Brady.

 

[joshjull]

If the past 20-30 years has taught us anything it should be that betting against advances in modern medicine/surgical procedures is about as wise as betting against Tom Brady.

I’m pretty sure if it was Dahlin, something would have been worked out. But for guy who already wanted out the year before? I get why they had no interest in granting permission.

 

[zenthusiast]

Remember how Miller played three seasons in the AHL after college before becoming a regular in Buffalo? That's the path to success for Levi.

He only did that because he’s a garbage plate fan. They tried to bring him up and he refused

 

[sabremike]

He only did that because he’s a garbage plate fan. They tried to bring him up and he refused

"WOULD!"

 

[Diablo2020]

Not sure where to put this but speaking of garbage plates..

What would the Sabres combine up to get Pettersson from the Canucks?

His first year has had a 12,000,000 bonus already paid so I feel like Pegula can even save some real cash this year if Sabres send back 2.5m or more.

Asking for a frustrated Canucks fan.

 

[debaser66]

Remember when miller cried after being torched by Detroit? It’s a path to success

I think his development was ruined since his meditation routine was canceled by the league

 

[TehDoak]

Not sure where to put this but speaking of garbage plates..

What would the Sabres combine up to get Pettersson from the Canucks?

His first year has had a 12,000,000 bonus already paid so I feel like Pegula can even save some real cash this year if Sabres send back 2.5m or more.

Asking for a frustrated Canucks fan.

Cozens and ?

 

[Willgamesh]

Why allow a guy to develop in the AHL when you can put him in the NHL when he's not ready for it and completely destroy his career before it even begins? It's absolutely insane.

It's ok we only gave up Reinhart for him... God this team sucks looking at the return for Sam and Jack makes me feel sick. Also why did we give up a 2nd for Malenstyn to play him 5 mins a night?

 

[Diablo2020]

Cozens and ?

I could see it as the Mogilny trade.

Cozens can be Mike Peca yeah.

Now we need a Jay McKee and Mike Wilson/1st.

Pegula already saves $4,600,000 cash this year.

 

[Willgamesh]

Not sure where to put this but speaking of garbage plates..

What would the Sabres combine up to get Pettersson from the Canucks?

His first year has had a 12,000,000 bonus already paid so I feel like Pegula can even save some real cash this year if Sabres send back 2.5m or more.

Asking for a frustrated Canucks fan.

Pick your prospect from the Amerks cozens a 1st +

 

[sabremike]

It's ok we only gave up Reinhart for him... God this team sucks looking at the return for Sam and Jack makes me feel sick. Also why did we give up a 2nd for Malenstyn to play him 5 mins a night?

The wildest thing about this organization is it's knack for showing no patience in situations when it should be patient and being comically patient in situations when they shouldn't be patient.

 

[Diablo2020]

Pick your prospect from the Amerks cozens a 1st +

Yes exactly.

Maybe im crazy but a 23 yr old RHC with a 30 goal season under his belt..

Signed perfectly behind Miller for 6 years..

With a 4,500,000 million cap difference..

While now having two 1sts to trade for a defenseman..

While now having Lekkerimaki and a Ostlund or Helenius waiting in the wings..

..Seems a better path to building my Canucks into an every year contender starting now.

Thanks for the garbage plate imo its actually what my team needs truly.

 

[Der Jaeger]

After seeing last night’s game in person:

If I could change one thing, it’d be their collective unwillingness to shoot the puck or make a simple pass. They constantly pass up chances for a low percentage play.

I’m not trying to kill creativity, but if half the time when they tried to razzle dazzle, they just shot the puck or made the easy pass, they’d be a much different team.

My eyeball test showed me a team that was dominating the Islanders for long stretches but tried to do too much and gave the Isles chances.

 

[joshjull]

I agree that his play isn’t what they’ve hoped for. But what are the grades based on?

 

[joshjull]

I agree that his play isn’t what they’ve hoped for. But what are the grades based on?

I think I found what he uses to grade

 

[Fjordsen]

Maybe Dreger did hear Byram's name in trade rumors. We don't know what Ruff told Adams, but we do know he said he didn't like LD playing RD, plus the pointlessness of trading for Byram.

 

[BFLO]

If the past 20-30 years has taught us anything it should be that betting against advances in modern medicine/surgical procedures is about as wise as betting against Tom Brady.

Right. It's not smart to bet against modern medicine. And modern medicine (aside from 1 doctor) says it is not safe to play NHL hockey with an artificial disk.

 

[TehDoak]

Right. It's not smart to bet against modern medicine. And modern medicine (aside from 1 doctor) says it is not safe to play NHL hockey with an artificial disk.

Pretty sure that is nowhere near the consensus that you are making it out to be.

Either way it’s hilarious that are franchise is so inept we are still discussing the ins and outs of the Eichel deal. It’s been 3 years. We lost the trade. Time to move on.

 

[sabremike]

Pretty sure that is nowhere near the consensus that you are making it out to be.

Either way it’s hilarious that are franchise is so inept we are still discussing the ins and outs of the Eichel deal. It’s been 3 years. We lost the trade. Time to move on.

The resulting second order consequence of being absolutely despised among players throughout the league for how we handled it is a million times worse than the poor return on the trade.

 

[RefsIdeas]

The resulting second order consequence of being absolutely despised among players throughout the league for how we handled it is a million times worse than the poor return on the trade.

This is spot on. Too many are still not realizing it.

 

[Chainshot]

The resulting second order consequence of being absolutely despised among players throughout the league for how we handled it is a million times worse than the poor return on the trade.

They built up years of being despised by players well before that situation with Jack. The entirety of Darcy‘s tenure was rife with issues with players.

 

[sabremike]

They built up years of being despised by players well before that situation with Jack. The entirety of Darcy‘s tenure was rife with issues with players.

Why I think the single best moment for Botts was how he handled Lehner: we could've easily washed our hands of the guy but instead went out of our way to get the guy help.

 

[toddkaz]

Sabres refused to pay Ullmark, Reinhart and Mittelstadt along with some other players.

That says a lot about this organization.

Mittelstadt 13 points in 11 games.

Also Adams drafting is not good.

The guy needs to go.

 

[Dubi Doo]

I liked Byram from my limited viewing, but boy did that pair look like ass last night.

Mitts is killing it in Colorado.

Yeah, chalk this up as another player escaping this wretched culture, and finding a clear role and excelling.