The 2024-2025 Roster Thread

[ValJamesDuex]

My off-season changes/Plan.

-1C / Petersen if possible still (Center spine of Petersen-Norris-McLeod-Kozak/Krebs
-RD partner for Power (for the 4th year), ie Kesselring/Whitecloud, etc

-Extend Byram & Peterka or move for other assets in hockey trades
-Add another gritty veteran forward in mold of Greenway/Zucker: ie Crouse/McCann/Iafallo
-Figure out the Goaltending again, you may have to spend to get a backup to UPL who can split more games until he is back in form or Levi is ready
-Tweak 4th line to be more effective (Laf, NAk were disappointing this season , move on from Krebs/Laf, insert Kozak, etc

-Continue to bake the prospects in Rochester (Levi, Helenius, Ostlund, Wahlberg, Rosen, Komorov, Novikov, etc) and or move some in deals.

-Hire a competent special teams assistant coach or promote Prospal for PP
-Hire a competant/experienced defensive coach, LET LINDY decide
-Consider moving on from Bales
-Spend to the cap

 

[TehDoak]

So, in taking a step back, I honestly think the bigger issue is the extension for Greenway AND Zucker.

Barring some big moves, you've locked yourself out of improving the forward group beyond internal growth or a another large trade.

Once everyone is re-signed, you are around 2-3M short of the cap.

Currently, next year, you are spending 10.5M between Samuelsson, Krebs, Clifton, and Lafferty. That is probably the easiest way to make some space, especially knowing the cap is going to go up again next year.

You still need to find a stable partner for Power.

 

[Chainshot]

 

[Chainshot]

So, in taking a step back, I honestly think the bigger issue is the extension for Greenway AND Zucker.

Barring some big moves, you've locked yourself out of improving the forward group beyond internal growth or a another large trade.

Once everyone is re-signed, you are around 2-3M short of the cap.

Currently, next year, you are spending 10.5M between Samuelsson, Krebs, Clifton, and Lafferty. That is probably the easiest way to make some space, especially knowing the cap is going to go up again next year.

You still need to find a stable partner for Power.

They very much can move on from Samuelsson, Krebs, or Lafferty. Also there is nothing holding them back from moving Quinn or anyone else for that matter.

 

[TehDoak]

They very much can move on from Samuelsson, Krebs, or Lafferty. Also there is nothing holding them back from moving Quinn or anyone else for that matter.

If someone wants to change this to 'KEVYN' for me....

 

[sabremike]

That is why Brady might want out.

Doing Brady a solid doesn’t help the Senators win games. Plus, I envision Keith and Matthew slapping Brady around if he is heartbroken by the Norris trade and cries about it every night for weeks.

Like acquiring a guy who has been beyond awful for two seasons now is going to help them win games?

 

[toddkaz]

My off-season changes/Plan.

-1C / Petersen if possible still (Center spine of Petersen-Norris-McLeod-Kozak/Krebs
-RD partner for Power (for the 4th year), ie Kesselring/Whitecloud, etc

-Extend Byram & Peterka or move for other assets in hockey trades
-Add another gritty veteran forward in mold of Greenway/Zucker: ie Crouse/McCann/Iafallo
-Figure out the Goaltending again, you may have to spend to get a backup to UPL who can split more games until he is back in form or Levi is ready
-Tweak 4th line to be more effective (Laf, NAk were disappointing this season , move on from Krebs/Laf, insert Kozak, etc

-Continue to bake the prospects in Rochester (Levi, Helenius, Ostlund, Wahlberg, Rosen, Komorov, Novikov, etc) and or move some in deals.

-Hire a competent special teams assistant coach or promote Prospal for PP
-Hire a competant/experienced defensive coach, LET LINDY decide
-Consider moving on from Bales
-Spend to the cap

I would like to bring in someone who will drop the gloves. I am tired of seeing our players cheap shotted.

It doesn't have to be a knuckle dragger but someone who will stick up for the team.

 

[elchud]

Byram+Sammy+Rosen

Mintyukov+Trouba+Leason+2nd

Anaheim has two of the same in Zell & Minty. Trouba back to the east coast to pair with Power and maybe that's a pair that can last beyond Troubas final contract year. Leason to be 4th line RW. Mintyukov can be paired with Dahlin from the jump.

Byram can be Anaheims 1D and play the right side paired with Lacombe. Sammy to add some size to their blue line and Rosen as a NHL ready forward prospect

 

[Vito_81]

They very much can move on from Samuelsson, Krebs, or Lafferty. Also there is nothing holding them back from moving Quinn or anyone else for that matter.

Absolutely. If anything what I took from Adams speaking after the deadline is just that. He admitted to making mistakes. He admitted to being too passive on making moves. I think he’s reached the “f*ck it” stage and we will start to see some action.

Id bet big money that Samuelsson will be moved in the summer.

 

[Chainshot]

Absolutely. If anything what I took from Adams speaking after the deadline is just that. He admitted to making mistakes. He admitted to being too passive on making moves. I think he’s reached the “f*ck it” stage and we will start to see some action.

Id bet big money that Samuelsson will be moved in the summer.

Bought out or traded, something. Can't take watching him look at his teammates getting rocked and standing there like he paid for a ticket.

 

[Ace]

Zucker and Greenway aren’t the forward positions that needed to be upgraded or changed. Cozens was one. Quinn is another. Kulich should be on the third line learning the game not one of the top 2Cs. Krebs is nothing. Replacing Zucker and or Greenway doesn’t attempt to solve the problems. Moving Cozens did.

The defense remains a mess. We’ve known that for years. It doesn’t change. Dahlin can play with anyone…so I’m not keen on paying Byram who can’t play with anyone else. Power has needed a veteran responsible partner since we won the lottery his draft year. Still waiting. Third pair has no identity whatsoever.

 

[Beerz]

Zucker and Greenway aren’t the forward positions that needed to be upgraded or changed. Cozens was one. Quinn is another. Kulich should be on the third line learning the game not one of the top 2Cs. Krebs is nothing. Replacing Zucker and or Greenway doesn’t attempt to solve the problems. Moving Cozens did.

The defense remains a mess. We’ve known that for years. It doesn’t change. Dahlin can play with anyone…so I’m not keen on paying Byram who can’t play with anyone else. Power has needed a veteran responsible partner since we won the lottery his draft year. Still waiting. Third pair has no identity whatsoever.

You can just as easily find a partner for Byram to play with.

This narrative that Power only struggles because of his partners is absolutely false and you have been peddling it all season.

Power struggles are his struggles.

 

[Ace]

You can just as easily find a partner for Byram to play with.

This narrative that Power only struggles because of his partners is absolutely false and you have been peddling it all season.

Power struggles are his struggles.

Power has had a positive career as a young player stuck with Henri Jokiharju. Your bullshit narratives don’t change that.

I don’t care what you think of Power’s game. You are out in left field. Your bias is so strong you refuse to acknowledge reality. Keep getting your opinions from meatheads and peddling their propaganda while those of us in the real world watch the team control to puck more, score more, and exit the zone more effectively when he’s on the ice.

Meanwhile…I questioned whether Byram can do what Power does without Dahlin next to him and the man shit his pants immediately upon being asked to.

Power is the better player…he’s been thrown into the deep end without a life preserver since he got here. I can’t change that you hate that he managed to swim. Or that I have ZERO respect for your opinion on this player.

 

[Beerz]

Power has had a positive career as a young player stuck with Henri Jokiharju. Your bullshit narratives don’t change that.

I don’t care what you think of Power’s game. You are out in left field. Your bias is so strong you refuse to acknowledge reality.

Meanwhile…I questioned whether Byram can do what Power does without Dahlin next to him and the man shit his pants immediately upon being asked to.

Power is the better player…he’s been thrown into the deep end without a life preserver since he got here. I can’t change that you hate that he managed to swim

You're acting like this is the first time Byram has played away from Dahlin. He has before and has looked fine. This is like a 2 game sample size you're swinging your dick about. Power may be better in some areas but no.. he is not the better player currently and if you can get Byram on a better contract than Power and move Power who has better value in a return it should be looked at.
Jokiharu has nothing to do with Power being a soft, indecisive loof in his own zone.

 

[Dahlicious]

They very much can move on from Samuelsson, Krebs, or Lafferty. Also there is nothing holding them back from moving Quinn or anyone else for that matter.

I have a feeling that Adams has Quinn in a similar box to Cozens; needs a change of scenery and looking for a hockey trade to move him.

 

[Beerz]

I have a feeling that Adams has Quinn in a similar box to Cozens; needs a change of scenery and looking for a hockey trade to move him.

It better not be in a move with Quinn on his own ... we will regret that fast. If you can package him for a surefire upgrade cool.. but just a change of scenery type move we will lose fast.

 

[Fly Boy]

You can just as easily find a partner for Byram to play with.

This narrative that Power only struggles because of his partners is absolutely false and you have been peddling it all season.

Power struggles are his struggles.

This is my biggest issue with this whole Power discussion. Finding his magic RHD partner isn't going to make him any better. It isn't going to change the way he plays. If anything this magical player is just going to cover up for his mistakes a little better than anyone else has so far. It won't change the fact that Power is still going to make those mistakes.

Even if Byram has struggled away from Dahlin, I'm much more confident that you could find an adequate partner for him than you could Power.

 

[Chainshot]

This is my biggest issue with this whole Power discussion. Finding his magic RHD partner isn't going to make him any better. It isn't going to change the way he plays. If anything this magical player is just going to cover up for his mistakes a little better than anyone else has so far. It won't change the fact that Power is still going to make those mistakes.

Even if Byram has struggled away from Dahlin, I'm much more confident that you could find an adequate partner for him than you could Power.

I don't think a vintage Mike Ramsey could cover up for how disengaged and out of position Power is in his own zone. It's still going to be one guy in the right place trying to break up passes where he's outnumbered. The way for Power to improve is for Power to improve. That has to come from within.

 

[Fjordsen]

So, in taking a step back, I honestly think the bigger issue is the extension for Greenway AND Zucker.

Barring some big moves, you've locked yourself out of improving the forward group beyond internal growth or a another large trade.

Once everyone is re-signed, you are around 2-3M short of the cap.

Currently, next year, you are spending 10.5M between Samuelsson, Krebs, Clifton, and Lafferty. That is probably the easiest way to make some space, especially knowing the cap is going to go up again next year.

You still need to find a stable partner for Power.

Whitecloud and Kesselring don't make much, so trading one of Sammy/Clifton would be enough to fit them into the cap and still have some money left over.

 

[TheBarnIsElectric]

Power still has the higher upside than Byram and I'd trade the latter before trading the former.

Power has had a bad season, but he's 21. I think the conversation would be different if Power had played with Dahlin all season.

 

[Chainshot]

Power still has the higher upside than Byram and I'd trade the latter before trading the former.

Power has had a bad season, but he's 21. I think the conversation would be different if Power had played with Dahlin all season.

To be "that guy", Power is over 200 games into his NHL career and is now 22. He'll be turning 23 early in next season. The improvements he needs to make have to come from him.

 

[Beerz]

Power still has the higher upside than Byram and I'd trade the latter before trading the former.

Power has had a bad season, but he's 21. I think the conversation would be different if Power had played with Dahlin all season.

I think he has higher upside offensively for sure.. I think he probably gets there too.

But.. if you're not engaged on the otherside of the ice then you are a liability unless your name is Erik Karlsson and I don't see Powers upside offensively to Karlsson

 

[Fjordsen]

From what I understand Adams said, they want to see Sammy with Dahlin and get Byram out of there. So I wouldn't be surprised to see Byram or even Power traded this offseason. Although counting on Sammy in the top 4 is always risky, we need to find some insurance player in case of such a case.

 

[TheBarnIsElectric]

 

[dickiedunnwrotethis]

This is my biggest issue with this whole Power discussion. Finding his magic RHD partner isn't going to make him any better. It isn't going to change the way he plays. If anything this magical player is just going to cover up for his mistakes a little better than anyone else has so far. It won't change the fact that Power is still going to make those mistakes.

Even if Byram has struggled away from Dahlin, I'm much more confident that you could find an adequate partner for him than you could Power.

I'm fine with Byram as long as he isn't asking for a similar contract as Power's. If he is, he can be traded along with the Stay Puft Marshmallow Man. Neither, in my opinion, have come close to earning that kind of money with their play. The more I think about it, the more I'm becoming enamored with the Toronto model. One primary PMD (Rielly) and the the rest of the defense rounded out with big, cheap, defensively stout dmen. We've already have an all-world dman in Dahlin, with the assets we have it shouldn't be a Herculean task to rework the rest of the defense.