Prospect Info: The 2024-2025 Prospect Thread: Part 1: Skate or Die!

[Andy Dufresne]

Expecting anything from a draft where we just had a 3rd, a 4th, two 6th's and a 7th is dreaming.
We will be exceptionally lucky to get a solid AHL'er and/or a legit trade piece out of any of them.
Anything is possible, of course, but some things are more likely.

I generally agree with your take, but I don't think "exceptionally lucky" is what getting a solid ahl'er should be described as. Exceptionally lucky would be getting 2 contributing nhl'ers from those mid/late picks. It's not even uncommon to get 1.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Sawyer Mynio invited to the Canada WJC Selection Camp.

How the hell did they not invite Joshua Ravensbergen?!

 

[clay]

Sawyer Mynio invited to the Canada WJC Selection Camp.

How the hell did they not invite Joshua Ravensbergen?!

Good for Mynio but it will be tough sledding making the team, especially given he's been injured the last month. 5 LHD and 5 RHD invited to camp. Of the LHD, Dickinson is a lock and Molendyk is returning from last year so he can be penciled as a lock as well. Assuming 3 righties and 3 lefties make the team, that has him competing with Price and Schaefer for the final LHD spot. Price has had a great year in terms of production, although he has the benefit of playing with Cristall and Iginla. Schaefer has had a nice start to the year and should be a top 5 pick in the 2025 draft.

 

[Vector]

Minor point from Dhaliwal just a minute ago but Klimovich's agent, old friend Dan Milstein, almost asked for a trade.

 

[Mr. Canucklehead]

Minor point from Dhaliwal just a minute ago but Klimovich's agent, old friend Dan Milstein, almost asked for a trade.

Prior to this season, I’d say he had zero value or hope to be dealt.

He could have some value as a piece in a deal now. As good as his offensive start has been in Abbotsford, it’s hard to picture him finding a place on a Tocchet coached team. Could easily see him being a piece of a trade.

 

[WTG]

Prior to this season, I’d say he had zero value or hope to be dealt.

He could have some value as a piece in a deal now. As good as his offensive start has been in Abbotsford, it’s hard to picture him finding a place on a Tocchet coached team. Could easily see him being a piece of a trade.

Klimmovich has some time to figure it out. No doubt that he needs to change his play style to be an NHL regular but he has all the tools to play a different way. If they can mold him into more of a power forward he could carve out a career. So far though, he's not that physical and would need to learn how to play in front of the net a bit better.

With his current play style, I think that he isn't really that much of an NHL prospect. But with a new coach, new system, maybe he can change his style/develop to fit an NHL niche.

 

[David Bruce Banner]

I generally agree with your take, but I don't think "exceptionally lucky" is what getting a solid ahl'er should be described as. Exceptionally lucky would be getting 2 contributing nhl'ers from those mid/late picks. It's not even uncommon to get 1.

Okay, let's just say, any pick beyond the 3rd round is a crapshoot.

Here's all our 3rd Round picks from the last 10 years...
2024 - Melvin Fernstrom TBD
2023 - Hunter Brzustewicz AHL rookie
2023 - Sawyer Mynio TBD
2022 - Elias Pettersson AHL rookie
2020 - Joni Jurmo ECHL
2019 - Tyler Madden Solid AHL'er
2017 - Michael DiPietro Solid AHL'er
2016 - William Lockwood Solid AHL'er
2015 - Guillaume Brisebois - Solid AHL'er

So, solid AHL'er seems to be the best we've done for a while. But you're right, a decent AHL'er seems to be an expected outcome. "Lucky" would be getting a journeyman NHL'er.
The same can be said for the later round picks. Gaudette being the biggest outlier, managing a middling NHL career.
Probably the previous regime can be held accountable for some amount of the overall meh-ness. But the odds were against these kids to begin with.

 

[Blue and Green]

Klimmovich has some time to figure it out. No doubt that he needs to change his play style to be an NHL regular but he has all the tools to play a different way. If they can mold him into more of a power forward he could carve out a career. So far though, he's not that physical and would need to learn how to play in front of the net a bit better.

With his current play style, I think that he isn't really that much of an NHL prospect. But with a new coach, new system, maybe he can change his style/develop to fit an NHL niche.

I've been harping for years about Klimovich not using his size to occupy the net front for screens, rebounds, deflections. He scored a deflection goal from that area two weeks ago in Bakersfield; I was hoping that he'd be influenced by that success-- but, nope. He's a good shooter who needs to understand that greasy goals count the same, plus some of that stuff helps your teammates score.

At least he has some upside with his size, shooting and skating if he happens to be one of those late bloomers in the hockey sense department. With many prospects in the AHL, it's obvious that they have almost no chance to be anything more than 4th-line wingers or 7D's.

 

[AwesomeInTheory]

"Miller can play center but often finds himself on the wing."

He does? Recently? Often?

Our small brains can't comprehend the decisions the Canucks brass face on a daily basis.

 

[ManVanFan]

Sawyer Mynio invited to the Canada WJC Selection Camp.

How the hell did they not invite Joshua Ravensbergen?!

Ravensbergen .899 3.08

 

[arttk]

"Miller can play center but often finds himself on the wing."

He does? Recently? Often?

Maybe there is a picture of Miller not in the center

 

[Vector]

Maybe there is a picture of Miller not in the center

Whenever I see this brought back I think “You know, maybe bullying is good sometimes”.

 

[LemonSauceD]

O’Ree, Jackson Dorrington take part in ‘Pass the Torch Jamboree’ in Boston | NHL.com

Hockey Hall of Famer, Northeastern defenseman help celebrate Bruins’ 100th anniversary, diversity

www.nhl.com

I didn't know that Dorrington is cousins with the first black player to sign a contract to play in the NHL.

Wow wow. That’s crazy and real interesting stuff. Now I want him to make the NHL more then ever.

 

[Yultron]

Expecting anything from a draft where we just had a 3rd, a 4th, two 6th's and a 7th is dreaming.
We will be exceptionally lucky to get a solid AHL'er and/or a legit trade piece out of any of them.
Anything is possible, of course, but some things are more likely.

Are people still dreaming about Pettersson 2.0 and Kudryavstev now ??? I think us Canucks fans see real potential with those two in site now and both of them were a 3rd and 7th round pick .

They haven’t made it yet , but we should all be just captivated with the work Todd Garvey , Cammi Granato and Allvin have done with our limited resources

 

[ManVanFan]

oops

 

[David Bruce Banner]

Are people still dreaming about Pettersson 2.0 and Kudryavstev now ??? I think us Canucks fans see real potential with those two in site now and both of them were a 3rd and 7th round pick .

They haven’t made it yet , but we should all be just captivated with the work Todd Garvey , Cammi Granato and Allvin have done with our limited resources

If D-Petey and/or Kudryavstev carve out NHL careers of any sort, they would be the biggest wins we’ve had, outside the top 2 rounds, in quite a long time.
I would love to be witnessing a sea change in our drafting. And maybe we are.
Later round picks are, by their very nature, long shots… but I also feel as though these Covid era drafts will be even more unpredictable, for better and worse.

 

[ManVanFan]

If D-Petey and/or Kudryavstev carve out NHL careers of any sort, they would be the biggest wins we’ve had, outside the top 2 rounds, in quite a long time.
I would love to be witnessing a sea change in our drafting. And maybe we are.
Later round picks are, by their very nature, long shots… but I also feel as though these Covid era drafts will be even more unpredictable, for better and worse.

Hopefully Canucks give them time to develop properly.

 

[StreetHawk]

If D-Petey and/or Kudryavstev carve out NHL careers of any sort, they would be the biggest wins we’ve had, outside the top 2 rounds, in quite a long time.
I would love to be witnessing a sea change in our drafting. And maybe we are.
Later round picks are, by their very nature, long shots… but I also feel as though these Covid era drafts will be even more unpredictable, for better and worse.

Going to see more kids delayed than you typically would. I mean, those kids in 20/21 lost a season of development. Lots of facilities were locked up and leagues shut down. Has a trickle down effect for all of the teens in that timeframe.

Prospects are just that until they can prove they belong in the NHL.

 

[VanJack]

If D-Petey and/or Kudryavstev carve out NHL careers of any sort, they would be the biggest wins we’ve had, outside the top 2 rounds, in quite a long time.
I would love to be witnessing a sea change in our drafting. And maybe we are.
Later round picks are, by their very nature, long shots… but I also feel as though these Covid era drafts will be even more unpredictable, for better and worse.

I suppose it might have happened before in the Canucks 54-year history, but I can't remember a time when two 20-year old d-men who are still junior-eligible, stepped in and made such a difference on their AHL farm team.

And these kids may barely be scratching the surface of what they might become. Unless their development unexpectedly hits the wall, they'll be even better by the end of the current season and on into their second pro seasons.

 

[ManVanFan]

Anyone else having issues with On hockey website?

It keeps sending me to a page that says "deceptive website warning" Troccus or something.

It used to occasionally ask if I was a robot or not and you could just go back to the page and it would work but now same page every single time.