Prospect Info: The 2023 NHL Entry Draft Thread

[surixon]

I havent followed Ritchie, what’s his story. Has he been a bit of a faller?


You know I think he will be gone but it is such a good draft he might be there. As Joe mentioned the criticism is that some feel his offensive upside is less awesome than other prospects in his zip code.

Yeah a bit of a faller because I don't think he put up the totals people thought he would. But from what I have seen I agree with Wheeler that they could explode next year.

He's a big center with real nice hands and a big shot. He moves around the ice well and reads the play well on both sides of the puck. To me he projects as a Cirelli type matchup 2C if he develops well.

 

[mondo3]

Here's my prediction -the jets will pick someone who has had minimal if any discussion as a possibility on this thread. Seems to happen every year; I do not recall anyone proposing we end up with Perfetti, Connor, McGroarty, etc.

 

[Whileee]

Here's my prediction -the jets will pick someone who has had minimal if any discussion as a possibility on this thread. Seems to happen every year; I do not recall anyone proposing we end up with Perfetti, Connor, McGroarty, etc.

I think most would have been very happy with Connor and Perfetti pre-draft, though they were ranked higher than the Jets' pick.

McGroarty was a bit less heralded, though he did seem to fit in the Jets' pick range.

Generally, the Jets have been fairly reliable in selecting players that have fallen from their pre-draft rankings.

 

[Thechozen1]

Here's my prediction -the jets will pick someone who has had minimal if any discussion as a possibility on this thread. Seems to happen every year; I do not recall anyone proposing we end up with Perfetti, Connor, McGroarty, etc.

I was definitely in the pro McGroarty camp last draft and was hoping that Connor would be there for the Jets even though I really didn’t think he would be. I was on the Lundell train though in 2020

 

[Atoyot]

Here's my prediction -the jets will pick someone who has had minimal if any discussion as a possibility on this thread. Seems to happen every year; I do not recall anyone proposing we end up with Perfetti, Connor, McGroarty, etc.

Nobody mentioned Perfetti or Connor because they were expected to be long gone before we picked. They were well known.

 

[drumzan]

I think most would have been very happy with Connor and Perfetti pre-draft, though they were ranked higher than the Jets' pick.

McGroarty was a bit less heralded, though he did seem to fit in the Jets' pick range.

Generally, the Jets have been fairly reliable in selecting players that have fallen from their pre-draft rankings.

Everybody was hoping for Connor but knew the chances were close to nil because he was expected to go top-10.

 

[MardyBum]

Nobody mentioned Perfetti or Connor because they were expected to be long gone before we picked. They were well known.

Yeah, haven't been here for all of the 1st rounds, but was for the 2015 and 2020 drafts and we were all collectively losing our mind in 2015 when Barzal and Connor were dropping and Boston f***ed up. The Perfetti chatter picked up as he dropped too, we all figured he'd be gone.

Off the top of my head of the drafts I've been on here for, Rutger was surprising, Vesalainen, I think that's it?

Even Stanley wasn't too surprising thanks to Garret

 

[surixon]

Yeah, haven't been here for all of the 1st rounds, but was for the 2015 and 2020 drafts and we were all collectively losing our mind in 2015 when Barzal and Connor were dropping and Boston f***ed up. The Perfetti chatter picked up as he dropped too, we all figured he'd be gone.

Off the top of my head of the drafts I've been on here for, Rutger was surprising, Vesalainen, I think that's it?

Even Stanley wasn't too surprising thanks to Garret

Yeah, there was some surprise about JoMo back on 2013 as well.

 

[Jetsetter]

Everybody was hoping for Connor but knew the chances were close to nil because he was expected to go top-10.

The Black Book had Connor at 6. He went 15 and the rest is now history.

 

[Atoyot]

Yeah, haven't been here for all of the 1st rounds, but was for the 2015 and 2020 drafts and we were all collectively losing our mind in 2015 when Barzal and Connor were dropping and Boston f***ed up. The Perfetti chatter picked up as he dropped too, we all figured he'd be gone.

Off the top of my head of the drafts I've been on here for, Rutger was surprising, Vesalainen, I think that's it?

Even Stanley wasn't too surprising thanks to Garret

Heinola was a little out of the blue. Don't usually see a small poor skating defenseman go in the 1st round.

The Black Book had Connor at 6. He went 15 and the rest is now history.

*17th,

 

[tbcwpg]

Heinola was a little out of the blue. Don't usually see a small poor skating defenseman go in the 1st round.


*17th,

Heinola was a consensus 19-25 range pick. He went pretty much where he was expected to.

 

[Atoyot]

Heinola was a consensus 19-25 range pick. He went pretty much where he was expected to.

I'm aware, so was Girard though and his skating pre-draft was better than Heinola's is now. Those types tend to fall.

 

[MardyBum]

Heinola was a little out of the blue. Don't usually see a small poor skating defenseman go in the 1st round.


*17th,

Tbf after we got our 1st round pick back I posted on here he was who I wanted

 

[MardyBum]

Hey I found a poll

2019 Draft

Jets have the 20th overall pick in this coming draft and, assuming they don't trade it, have a few options. Here is a list of the #10 - #31 prospects, as ranked by TSN. 10) Peyton Krebs 18 yrs old, 5'11", 181 lbs, Left shooting LW/C Peyton Krebs at eliteprospects.com...

forums.hfboards.com

 

[SM]

Pronman chose Oliver Bonk for us in the Wheeler/Pronman mock draft. First I’ve seen his name that high.

 

[MardyBum]

Pronman chose Oliver Bonk for us in the Wheeler/Pronman mock draft. First I’ve seen his name that high.

Yeah, saw the same. Apparently high IQ, decent mobility, good backwards skating, questions about offense translating but good defensively in my 5 minute googe

Also Radek Bonk's kid.

 

[nobody imp0rtant]

Pronman chose Oliver Bonk for us in the Wheeler/Pronman mock draft. First I’ve seen his name that high.

If he turns out half as good as the last Bonk to play here, that would be alright.

 

[cbcwpg]

June 28-29, 2023
Round 1, June 28 (7 p.m. E.T.; ESPN, SN, TVAS)
Rounds 2-7, June 29 (11 a.m. E.T.; NHLN, SN, TVAS)

2023 FIRST ROUND DRAFT ORDER​

1. Chicago Blackhawks
2. Anaheim Ducks
3. Columbus Blue Jackets
4. San Jose Sharks
5. Montreal Canadiens
6. Arizona Coyotes
7. Philadelphia Flyers
8. Washington Capitals
9. Detroit Red Wings
10. St. Louis Blues
11. Vancouver Canucks
12. Arizona Coyotes (from Ottawa Senators)
13. Buffalo Sabres
14. Pittsburgh Penguins
15. Nashville Predators
16. Calgary Flames
17. Detroit Red Wings (from New York Islanders via Vancouver Canucks)
18. Winnipeg Jets
19. Chicago Blackhawks (from Tampa Bay Lightning)
20. Seattle Kraken
21. Minnesota Wild
22. Columbus Blue Jackets (from Los Angeles Kings)
23. New York Rangers
24. Nashville Predators (from Edmonton Oilers)
25. St. Louis Blues (from Toronto Maple Leafs)
26. San Jose Sharks (from New Jersey Devils)
27. Colorado Avalanche
28. Toronto Maple Leafs (from Boston Bruins via Washington Capitals)

Just waiting on the final 4 seedings.

 

[macmaroon]

If he turns out half as good as the last Bonk to play here, that would be alright.

You're right, John Bonk was great for us...

 

[lomiller1]

Here's my prediction -the jets will pick someone who has had minimal if any discussion as a possibility on this thread. Seems to happen every year; I do not recall anyone proposing we end up with Perfetti, Connor, McGroarty, etc.

In Connors case that's primarily because there is no way he should have been available when we picked. The notable thing about that draft was that there were as many as 11 players, including Connor, who would have been top 5 picks in most other drafts. For a player who'd be a top 5 pick in most drafts to still be there at 17 was almost unthinkable so these boards never even considered the possibility that he'd be available.

My recollection of the 2020 draft was that people were hoping either Rossi or Perfetti would be available at 10 but were not really expecting it because McKenzie's final list had Perfetti at 5 and Rossi at 7.

2022 was a little different in that the players people were hoping could fall to us were already taken and we ended up dipping into the next tier of players, which probabaly did include McGroarty even if he was a bit of a reach at 14.

 

[GeorgeJETson]

In Connors case that's primarily because there is no way he should have been available when we picked. The notable thing about that draft was that there were as many as 11 players, including Connor, who would have been top 5 picks in most other drafts. For a player who'd be a top 5 pick in most drafts to still be there at 17 was almost unthinkable so these boards never even considered the possibility that he'd be available.

My recollection of the 2020 draft was that people were hoping either Rossi or Perfetti would be available at 10 but were not really expecting it because McKenzie's final list had Perfetti at 5 and Rossi at 7.

2022 was a little different in that the players people were hoping could fall to us were already taken and we ended up dipping into the next tier of players, which probabaly did include McGroarty even if he was a bit of a reach at 14.

Re: 2020 draft

I would have been fine drafting Lundell at 10, but considered it possible he might not have been available by then.

I pictured Perfetti could go anywhere between 4-7 and Rossi anywhere between 5-8.

I know I flipped out when Perfetti, Rossi, and Lundell were all available by 9OA.

I still consider that a bit of draft luck that it shook out that way.

 

[BoneDocUK]

The Athletic adds some fairly generic input regarding the Jets' drafting strategy (the attached is well under the 10% limit):

NHL Draft 2023: Pronman and Wheeler answer the biggest questions facing NHL teams

Consider this our experts' pre-draft press conference of sorts.

theathletic.com

Winnipeg Jets​

The Jets have excelled in drafting small, dynamic skill at good draft spots since moving to Winnipeg from Atlanta: Kyle Connor, Nikolaj Ehlers, Cole Perfetti, Chaz Lucius and Brad Lambert are just a few hits but they’re not the only ones. Even if you advocate for best player available, teams’ NHL rosters (and needs) change all the time. Do you think there’s a chance the Jets watch Ehlers’, Perfetti’s, and Lucius’ recent injury troubles and take a big swing toward size and grit in the first round? —Murat Ates

Pronman: I would wager they try to add size and skating into their organization soon, although Rutger McGroarty was a high-end compete type with decent size.

Wheeler: The Jets are picking in a range where a few players with size could well be available (Musty, Barlow, Ritchie, etc.) and I’d expect that they consider that an area of focus given the makeup of their pool and the uncertainty surrounding the futures of players like Mark Scheifele, Blake Wheeler and Pierre-Luc Dubois with the organization long term.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

Bonk doesn't excite me. His skating is just ok. Rather take a Dragicevic if he is there

 

[jgimp]

Bonk doesn't excite me. His skating is just ok. Rather take a Dragicevic if he is there

Isn’t there serious questions regarding Dragicevics defence? I’ve watched Bonk live a few times and I’d take Bonks just ok skating over Dragicevics questionable defence any day.
Jets have proven they can help develop and/or at least repair skating.
But I definitely think taking Bonk at our spot is a stretch. His offence is lacking for a pick in the mid 1st.
I wonder if we could move up to Vancouvers spot (11OA) if Orville Redenbacher or ASP are available. Rumors are that they are looking to shed cap. We take Garland off their hands, Give them Heinola and a pick swap. They free up 5M from wing and move down 7 spots and get an NHL ready D on an ELC. We get a M6 winger who may help get some scoring and frees up our LD jam a bit.
Seems to help both a bit. Not sure how the value is each way though.

 

[Joe Hallenback]

Isn’t there serious questions regarding Dragicevics defence? I’ve watched Bonk live a few times and I’d take his just ok skating over questionable defence anyway.
Jets have proven they can help develop and at least repair skating.
But I definitely think taking Bonk at our spot is a stretch. His offence is lacking for a pick in the mid 1st.

Dragicevic is a riverboat gambler. A very high end offensive D man. Right hand shot as well. I think his upside is very high but even at the low end he likely ends up as a top 4 guy who runs your PP.

The Jets have a lot of Oliver Bonks in their system. Safe 2 way guys that are very smart and intelligent. Trying to think of a high end offensive D man that we drafted early and come up with no one. Shoot for the stars I think if you are drafting a D at this spot.

I think at this point if you draft a safe pick you might miss out.